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Re: Ind Vs WI
« Reply #60 on: November 26, 2011, 07:55:15 PM »

the Indian players make so much money I don't see why they would fix a game.
not that money buys you a brain, the Indians should have made the 2 on the last balk to win the game, one of the batsmen just didn't run hard! madness. the other, running to the danger end made it easily...

I really don't see much evidence of match fixing in test cricket. pitch fixing... that is a different story. and plenty of poor captaincy, Sammy was poor today, unless fidelity was unfit, he looked like he could have run through the Indian tail.
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Re: Ind Vs WI
« Reply #61 on: November 26, 2011, 09:47:11 PM »

might explain ashwins refusal of the second run with nothing to lose...

Brain fade on an otherwise remarkable debut.

I hate the talk of fixing everytime something unusual happens in cricket. The saying "funny game cricket" has been around long before match and spot fixing were issues.

Enjoy the freakish and brilliant finishes of tests, don't tarnish them with bullshit about fixing. That does more damage to the game then fixing itself.

On another note, I love the way people come up with the scripted theory after the end. If its obviously scripted, and you are so insightful, why wait until after the end to reveal your theories of pre-determined outcomes retrospectively? Predicting the past is not that impressive.
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Re: Ind Vs WI
« Reply #62 on: November 26, 2011, 11:23:01 PM »

Remarkable debut, really?
Ohja bowled better in spin friendly conditions and he got a 100 on the M6.
Granted i couldnt do it but hes not the next best thing by any means.
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Re: Ind Vs WI
« Reply #63 on: November 27, 2011, 12:08:04 AM »

Remarkable debut, really?
Ohja bowled better in spin friendly conditions and he got a 100 on the M6.
Granted i couldnt do it but hes not the next best thing by any means.

Was that a spin friendly M6? The Windies didn't last 2 sessions after his century and a fairly imposing Indian lineup were 9 for 240 after that.

Regardless of who you are, or what standard you set (for others), 22 wickets at an avg of 22 and a hundred at number 8 while facing a 300 deficit is a pretty good 3 test debut series.
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Re: Ind Vs WI
« Reply #64 on: November 27, 2011, 12:26:58 AM »

Well he didn't get hundreds on the first two tracks and a pitch can deteriorate.

I never said he had a bad series im just saying he was helped out a lot by his surroundings. I would like to see him do it in Aus/SA/NZ.
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Re: Ind Vs WI
« Reply #65 on: November 27, 2011, 12:43:06 AM »

Well he didn't get hundreds on the first two tracks and a pitch can deteriorate.

I never said he had a bad series im just saying he was helped out a lot by his surroundings. I would like to see him do it in Aus/SA/NZ.

It wasn't the flattest pitch I've ever seen, lots of very good batsman didn't manage to churn out centuries on it. 15th time in history anyone has scored more than 100 runs in a series at a 40-plus average, and taking more than 20 wickets at an average of less than 23....... First time anyone has done it on debut.

I'm not saying he's a big thing, just justifying use of the term remarkable debut.

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Re: Ind Vs WI
« Reply #66 on: November 27, 2011, 12:50:16 AM »

Brain fade on an otherwise remarkable debut.

I hate the talk of fixing everytime something unusual happens in cricket. The saying "funny game cricket" has been around long before match and spot fixing were issues.

Enjoy the freakish and brilliant finishes of tests, don't tarnish them with bullshit about fixing. That does more damage to the game then fixing itself.

On another note, I love the way people come up with the scripted theory after the end. If its obviously scripted, and you are so insightful, why wait until after the end to reveal your theories of pre-determined outcomes retrospectively? Predicting the past is not that impressive.

people have opinions, let them be! no matter how outlandish.

recent events have brought suspicion of dodgy dealings in to the spotlight and if people choose to question an event or even a whole a match they are well within their rights to do so without being categorically told that they are wrong by someone with no more knowledge in the matter than themselves

please try to refrain from the use of swear words
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Re: Ind Vs WI
« Reply #67 on: November 27, 2011, 12:54:48 AM »

people have opinions, let them be! no matter how outlandish.

recent events have brought suspicion of dodgy dealings in to the spotlight and if people choose to question an event or even a whole a match they are well within their rights to do so without being categorically told that they are wrong by someone with no more knowledge in the matter than themselves

please try to refrain from the use of swear words

Sorry to disagree with you.
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Re: Ind Vs WI
« Reply #68 on: November 27, 2011, 01:00:22 AM »

please... i would welcome a healthy debate on this subject, two people of contrasting views do not have to argue, or enter a popularity contest.

the finale to this test match came across very suspicious, with ashwin declining a second run despite having nothing to lose (and everything to gain) by doing so, i have to question why, all seems very strange unless it was intentional
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Re: Ind Vs WI
« Reply #69 on: November 27, 2011, 01:24:38 AM »

Indians in poor running between the wickets shocker...
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Re: Ind Vs WI
« Reply #70 on: November 27, 2011, 07:56:58 AM »

please... i would welcome a healthy debate on this subject, two people of contrasting views do not have to argue, or enter a popularity contest.

the finale to this test match came across very suspicious, with ashwin declining a second run despite having nothing to lose (and everything to gain) by doing so, i have to question why, all seems very strange unless it was intentional

Would you think the same thing if it wasn't for the individuals being sent to prison recently?

Personally when I was watching it - Ashwin just looked confused, he may also have thought they could claim an extra half hour - I genuinely don't think it was deleberate, just stupid

Also they took on a series of crazy singles in the run up to the last over
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Re: Ind Vs WI
« Reply #71 on: November 27, 2011, 08:40:58 AM »

Would you think the same thing if it wasn't for the individuals being sent to prison recently?

Personally when I was watching it - Ashwin just looked confused, he may also have thought they could claim an extra half hour - I genuinely don't think it was deleberate, just stupid

Also they took on a series of crazy singles in the run up to the last over

i cant get my head around it, saw it live and couldn't believe what i was seeing, so naturally you have to consider fixing even if you dont believe it in the end, it does come to mind. thats the footprint that those individuals have left on the game im afraid!
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Re: Ind Vs WI
« Reply #72 on: November 27, 2011, 08:58:39 AM »

so is this "match fixing" only done by certain teams or are all international teams involved?
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Re: Ind Vs WI
« Reply #73 on: November 27, 2011, 09:51:59 AM »

Except for the wrestling, it's real for sure!
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Re: Ind Vs WI
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