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Title: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: langer17 on December 22, 2011, 10:17:20 AM
Got a bat that I am oiling before applying a scuff sheet, and I was just wondering if I should:

Knock in then scuff sheet
OR
Scuff sheet then knock in

Cheers.
Title: Re: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: kaustav on December 22, 2011, 10:18:48 AM
Have done both. Never had a problem with either.
Title: Re: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: langer17 on December 22, 2011, 10:22:17 AM
Have done both. Never had a problem with either.

Thought either would be good. Which one would say was/is better?
Title: Re: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: PedalsMcgrew on December 22, 2011, 10:25:08 AM
Personally I knock in without a scuff then apply afterwards. I have heard that applying the scuff before makes knocking in the bat harder to do.....
Title: Re: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: kaustav on December 22, 2011, 10:25:18 AM
The purpose will be served by both; if You put the sheet after using the mallet for sometime it will at least ensure that the oil will be soaked in well enough so that you will not have any probs taking the sheet off after a lot of use.
Title: Re: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: Joe on December 22, 2011, 10:27:46 AM
I alway put the scuff sheet on after knocking in because trying to round off the edges with a bat that has a scuff sheet is hard and ruffles the sheet up.
Title: Re: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: PedalsMcgrew on December 22, 2011, 10:32:58 AM
As Joe says, if you apply the scuff sheet first you just end up with a manky looking bat!
Title: Re: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: Joe on December 22, 2011, 10:35:18 AM
As Joe says, if you apply the scuff sheet first you just end up with a manky looking bat!
It gets on my nerves when you get a bat that comes un-oiled, not knocked in and with a scuff sheet on. Because then you can't oil it or knock it in properly.
Title: Re: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: kaustav on December 22, 2011, 10:38:24 AM
And there is this nice feeling about oiling and knocking in a new bat yourself. I don't like those which come 'pre-prepared' and you can oil only the back.
Title: Re: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: Tom on December 22, 2011, 10:38:57 AM
It gets on my nerves when you get a bat that comes un-oiled, not knocked in and with a scuff sheet on. Because then you can't oil it or knock it in properly.
If it comes with a scuff sheet on they don't need oiling, only the areas open to air need oiling.
Title: Re: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: Joe on December 22, 2011, 10:52:32 AM
If it comes with a scuff sheet on they don't need oiling, only the areas open to air need oiling.
Why? I know oiling is mainly to lock moisture in, but I think somewhere it said it was to get the fibres to knit together as well.
Title: Re: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: kaustav on December 22, 2011, 10:55:10 AM
What Tom is saying that those bats which come with the scuff sheet applied (GM,GN) etc are pre-prepared and oiled. You just need to oil the back.
Title: Re: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: langer17 on December 22, 2011, 10:57:37 AM
Cheers guys, think I will knock in and then apply the scuff sheet after. This will also allow the scuff sheet to stick on better as the oil should be dry by then.
Title: Re: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: tim2000s on December 22, 2011, 11:12:01 AM
Cheers guys, think I will knock in and then apply the scuff sheet after. This will also allow the scuff sheet to stick on better as the oil should be dry by then.
Erm, you should let the oil dry before you start knocking in...
Title: Re: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: kaustav on December 22, 2011, 11:21:22 AM
Yeah--give it sometime so that the oil dries up and then start knocking it in. The scuff sheet will stick to the blade irrespective of when you apply it. But ensuring that the oil has soaked in properly will reduce the chances of hurting your grains when you decide to take the sheet off after a lot of use. Have fun with your new bat; which one is it by the way?
Title: Re: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: langer17 on December 22, 2011, 12:23:58 PM
Erm, you should let the oil dry before you start knocking in...

Lol, Yeah I know that, just meaning that it will give it even more time.
Title: Re: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: langer17 on December 22, 2011, 12:34:50 PM
Yeah--give it sometime so that the oil dries up and then start knocking it in. The scuff sheet will stick to the blade irrespective of when you apply it. But ensuring that the oil has soaked in properly will reduce the chances of hurting your grains when you decide to take the sheet off after a lot of use. Have fun with your new bat; which one is it by the way?

Not necessarily, if the oil is still fresh, then the scuff sheet won't take as well to the blade compared to a week or 2 later.

I got a KD Grandes Players from Keith Dugeon sport (KD). Was out of that and a M&H Harlequin (they are the only store to stock m&h that I have seen in Australia), the KD bat felt like it had a longer middle, while the Harleqin handle felt better, but the KD one is still good quality and is a mix of rubber and cork I believe. The face is pretty flat and the edges are pretty square, combined with a relatively square toe, the bat looks almost square, but will look better once I round the edges off. I was offered a discount on KD gear by Keith, so that swayed it easily to KD as I saved $160 on the bat plus saved $45 on some gloves.
Title: Re: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: PedalsMcgrew on December 22, 2011, 12:36:13 PM
Interesting stick! Pics???
Title: Re: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: langer17 on December 22, 2011, 12:42:02 PM
Interesting stick! Pics???

Will upload some soon.
Title: Re: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: Number4 on December 22, 2011, 12:49:07 PM
They are the only stockist of M&H in Australia at the moment
Title: Re: Knock in then scuff sheet -OR- Scuff sheet then knock in?
Post by: langer17 on December 22, 2011, 01:05:15 PM
They are the only stockist of M&H in Australia at the moment

Thought so.