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Equipment => Your Kit => Topic started by: 100 not out on January 01, 2012, 12:23:43 PM

Title: Fixation with edges
Post by: 100 not out on January 01, 2012, 12:23:43 PM
Everyone these days are fixated with edge size, when i sit back in my arm chair with a cup of cocoa and reminisce of the bats i have had, (and i have to say i have seen and tried most profiles), the bats with your bog standard edges and no (or minimal) concaving have served me better. At the end of the day, the amount of wood ( or volume) will be the same in both type of bats. Why would someone want to, in their right mind move wood from the spine to the edges. I personally feel this profile whilst being visually attractive actually detracts from performance.

So i want you to do the same, and think back to the bats that served you well and consider the profile and vote accordingly. I suppose this is only relevant for people who have tried both profile types. It will be interesting to see results. We are all different but i would expect to see the classical doing well.
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: roco on January 01, 2012, 12:26:17 PM
I prefer big edge 35+ no concaving as at weight I use it's possible but if I had to choose would go thin edge no concaving as like my meat where it's needed
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: Joe on January 01, 2012, 12:32:20 PM
I like medium edges and a small amount of concaving as seen on 97 n.o.'s h4l. A happy compromise.
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: 100 not out on January 01, 2012, 12:32:34 PM
You must be a big lad Roco.

A follow up question would be do you still use the profile that you voted for. If not, why not??

Could participants please specify.
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: Joe on January 01, 2012, 12:34:08 PM
I voted for classical profile, although I wouldn't choose either but if I had too it would be the classical. I like the h4l profiles, medium edges with a little bit of concaving, but not as much as the GN legend etc.
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on January 01, 2012, 12:37:09 PM
I use a 2.12 with 30mm edges very little concaving...having big edges and heavy concaving to get the bat to a lightweight will mean a smaller middle size IMO
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: roco on January 01, 2012, 12:37:37 PM
I'm not what you would call small as I'm in the gayle build just a little bigger

I still prefer as little concaving as possible unless the batmaker says it needs a little to balance it out as that's where you need wood
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: thedon on January 01, 2012, 12:38:34 PM
I was under the impression that larger edges will give you a more forgiving, but less concentrated middle. Best bats I've used were an sg cobra and gm hero 909 which had  medium sized edges. Middles were very forgiving.
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: Joe on January 01, 2012, 01:12:03 PM
I was under the impression that larger edges will give you a more forgiving, but less concentrated middle. Best bats I've used were an sg cobra and gm hero 909 which had  medium sized edges. Middles were very forgiving.
They will but the more concaving, the less forgiving it is. If a bat's concaved then the middle will be as good as a non-concaved bat but everywhere else will be poor (think about it) but a bat with no concaving and if will still go better if you don't hit it down the middle of the bat.
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: Buzz on January 01, 2012, 01:24:05 PM
and yet newbery have bought out a bat with normal edges, no concaving and no spine...

personally I am not that bothered, I have bats of both styles and I get out with both!
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: FattusCattus on January 01, 2012, 02:22:21 PM
I'm not what you would call small as I'm in the gay build just a little bigger

I need wood

SNIGGER!!
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: PedalsMcgrew on January 01, 2012, 02:23:50 PM
Thin edges and a little concaving to get a nice high spine (Which is probably just a visual preference really!)

All of my favourite bats have been shaped like this going back to my Mjolnir from a few years ago, against which I measure every other bat I get..

I don't look at the size of the edges on a stick and think, Wow! 40+ mm edges that must mean it's a gun. I tend to think, 'I bet if they had shifted some of that weight to the middle it would be a gun....'  :D

Looking at the results of the poll so far it would seem a lot of us feel the same way! SO why has everyone got so excited about the Laver Ultra's then?





 
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: PM7 on January 01, 2012, 02:38:30 PM
I remember someone had a H4L Hattori profile bat with thinner edges and it looked a lovely mix of modern and traditional profiles. Whatever happened to that bat as it was for sale?
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: 100 not out on January 01, 2012, 02:41:12 PM
We need a sample of 30+ to get an idea
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on January 01, 2012, 02:47:13 PM
Forum trends has led to bigger edges being popular and ultra showed the extreme of this and laver showed what could be done when taking it to the limits!
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: NathRobbo88 on January 01, 2012, 02:49:18 PM
I remember someone had a H4L Hattori profile bat with thinner edges and it looked a lovely mix of modern and traditional profiles. Whatever happened to that bat as it was for sale?


This one: http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=14604.msg232846#msg232846

Unfortunately its now sold. I regret not buying it  >:(
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: Spanky on January 01, 2012, 02:57:03 PM
That H4L Hattori was a lovely looking profile, personally I am not overly fussed about big edges as I am to use the middle of the bat (aim being the vital word).
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: Canners on January 01, 2012, 02:58:30 PM
I think people are so fixated with edge size because it's the easiest way to judge the size of a bat.....

Hoever I think people are starting to wise up to the fact edge size isn't the be all, bats with big edges still look very pleasing to the eye tho
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: Spanky on January 01, 2012, 03:00:55 PM
Can't argue that big edges look nice, but just never really seen or felt the benefit.
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: johnnyw on January 01, 2012, 03:07:33 PM
I have a feeling that there will be a forum trend soon with small edges and high spine.
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: Spanky on January 01, 2012, 03:22:43 PM
Personally feel the Flare and GT335 are a good mix of traditional and modern profiles.
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: kieranl73 on January 01, 2012, 03:35:04 PM
Is it to do with the fact that all of the bats on the international circuit are huge with massive edges?

I tend to think this has a lot to do with it. especially for the younger players as they all want to be like the pros/ think they are like the pros!
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: Simmy on January 01, 2012, 03:39:55 PM
i love my h4l so much! and thats big edges and concaving!
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: Manormanic on January 01, 2012, 03:49:53 PM
I'm lucky that I use heavy enough bats that I can have big edges without concaving.  Makes bats look so much nicer!
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: Joe on January 01, 2012, 04:00:19 PM
I think bats look miles better with concaving, mainly because of the shadow it gives in pictures
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: Apple on January 01, 2012, 04:25:00 PM
I think the GM 1885 profile will become pretty popular
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: Joe on January 01, 2012, 04:58:18 PM
I think the GM 1885 profile will become pretty popular
The 1885 picks up terribly, feels horrible imo
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: Apple on January 05, 2012, 01:51:01 PM
I havent felt it, just seen the pictures online
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: tim2000s on January 05, 2012, 06:22:59 PM
The 1885 picks up terribly, feels horrible imo
Couldn't disagree more. Incredibly light pick up! Feels fantastic!
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: Joe on January 05, 2012, 06:28:16 PM
Maybe I just got a bad one. Or you got a good one. Or we have wildly different pick-up measurement things.
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: tim2000s on January 05, 2012, 06:29:17 PM
Maybe I just got a bad one. Or you got a good one. Or we have wildly different pick-up measurement things.
The pick up index was 1...
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: Joe on January 05, 2012, 06:31:18 PM
I meant like, I might not like it but you might? ???  All I can say is, I didn't think it picked up well.
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: kaustav on January 05, 2012, 06:43:53 PM
I think people are so fixated with edge size because it's the easiest way to judge the size of a bat.....

Hoever I think people are starting to wise up to the fact edge size isn't the be all

Only in these cricket forums. The whole world is still obsessed with big edges. Just had a brief glance at the new SG range of bats. Man---their profile has changed so much in the last 3-4 years -- it is unbelievable  :o
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: jw17 on January 05, 2012, 09:03:56 PM
Can we add 'Tendulkar profile, thick edges minimal concaving'?
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: Joe on January 05, 2012, 09:10:42 PM
Big edges look more awesome than thin edges.
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: junter97 on January 05, 2012, 09:21:08 PM
Only in these cricket forums. The whole world is still obsessed with big edges. Just had a brief glance at the new SG range of bats. Man---their profile has changed so much in the last 3-4 years -- it is unbelievable  :o

Got to agree with you there. Kookaburra sum it up IMO, all there bats his year are obsessed with edge size. They know what people want though, I just hope the GM 1885 profile will get popular
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: thedon on January 05, 2012, 09:41:56 PM
the ultimate edge fixation would be the gm scoop. Taking all the wood out of the middle!

People who have it on here, seem to be liking it though
Title: Re: Fixation with edges
Post by: Colesy on January 05, 2012, 11:01:29 PM
Give me a Purist shape over your typical SS shape every day. Saying this I have an SS atm with 37mm edges and maximum concaving.

Really, really like the new Halo and 1885 from GM. If only I had money.........