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Title: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: Blenheim Cricket on May 08, 2012, 06:23:30 PM
Gents

We've got two bats to go:

Firstly, a Viceroy which was made to order as a potential T20 bat for our range. Unbelievable grains (genuinely 1 in a 1000), weighing a smidge under 2.12 and with a great profile (36mm edges).

Secondly, a Marlborough - weighing 2.95 and with 38mm edges. Great bat, great looking face.

Both £240 posted (or £230 if you live near enough to Cambridge to pick them up). Let me know if you're interested.

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Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: epbs on May 08, 2012, 09:26:24 PM
Chaps, I saw the Blenheim stuff yesterday, including these bats and they are every bit as good as they look. Pads and gloves are top quality and the bats are awesome. That Viceroy is an outrageous piece of willow!
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: PedalsMcgrew on May 08, 2012, 09:29:01 PM
I know this is a question some brandsdon't like to answer so if you don't want to say or you can't then I understand but I would really want to know who actually makes these bats before I bought one....they look lovely which makes me want to explore further but without that information I would never buy one... ;)
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: Johnny on May 09, 2012, 05:56:01 AM
I believe they are made by Dave Blenheim ;)
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: Blenheim Cricket on May 09, 2012, 10:00:43 AM
That's fair enough, we are quite happy to tell people who buy bats who makes ours - but there isn't much point in revealing it here for no reason, and just because plenty of the forum badgers just like having a good gossip!

By your logic you'd never buy a GN/Kook/Bradbury/Adidas/Puma then, as you can't be 100% sure who has made it?

I know this is a question some brandsdon't like to answer so if you don't want to say or you can't then I understand but I would really want to know who actually makes these bats before I bought one....they look lovely which makes me want to explore further but without that information I would never buy one... ;)
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: sgcricket on May 09, 2012, 10:19:58 AM
Like and +1 on the above post
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: PedalsMcgrew on May 09, 2012, 10:32:31 AM
If I wanted an off the shelf bat I would have no issues going to any of these makers.....I also know who makes Puma and Bradbury bats and I know that Adidas and Kook are made in Asia so have no interest for me at all.

I actually want to buy a handmade custom bat and I am merely pointing out that I would never do that if I didn't know who was actually going to make it for me..... ;)

Would you buy a handmade suit from a company that won't tell you who is going to make it or indeed where it was going to be made....? No, thought not....





Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: Blenheim Cricket on May 09, 2012, 11:11:39 AM
If someone told me that my bat was going to be hand made in England I can genuinely say that I wouldn't care at all who the batmaker was. Why would I? All I care about is the quality of the stick! Not to mention that most places that hand make bats in the UK have multiple batmakers anyway and machine cut much of their work, so making decisions about bat purchasing on the supposed 'batmaker' is a fraught practice at best anyway.

To be fair I can completely understand if you personally really care about the exact batmaker maybe because you prefer some individuals pressing and dislike others, and I guess that is your point, but all I would say is that I think you're very much in the minority. There are always going to be good and bad bats produced by all batmakers - even the best will produce 'bad' bats, if only because clefts are hard to judge for their quality. So that is why I wouldn't really care who the exact batmaker is...

And as I said, if you buy one of ours then I'll tell you who made it!

If I wanted an off the shelf bat I would have no issues going to any of these makers.....I also know who makes Puma and Bradbury bats and I know that Adidas and Kook are made in Asia so have no interest for me at all.

I actually want to buy a handmade custom bat and I am merely pointing out that I would never do that if I didn't know who was actually going to make it for me..... ;)

Would you buy a handmade suit from a company that won't tell you who is going to make it or indeed where it was going to be made....? No, thought not....
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: Blenheim Cricket on May 09, 2012, 11:12:29 AM
Also you're doing well to know exactly who has made every Bradbury and Puma bat you pick up because over the last few years they've varied a fair bit!
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: charlie15 on May 09, 2012, 11:14:49 AM
Would you buy a handmade suit from a company that won't tell you who is going to make it or indeed where it was going to be made....? No, thought not....

Ahh, but if you were buying a handmade suit you would meet the tailor when he was measuring you up, if you didn't like him then you could always walk out the door before parting with your cash!  I'm sure the guys at Blenheim would let you know if you picked up the phone or visited and discussed what you are looking for!!!
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: PedalsMcgrew on May 09, 2012, 11:32:23 AM
If someone told me that my bat was going to be hand made in England I can genuinely say that I wouldn't care at all who the batmaker was. Why would I? All I care about is the quality of the stick! Not to mention that most places that hand make bats in the UK have multiple batmakers anyway and machine cut much of their work, so making decisions about bat purchasing on the supposed 'batmaker' is a fraught practice at best anyway.

To be fair I can completely understand if you personally really care about the exact batmaker maybe because you prefer some individuals pressing and dislike others, and I guess that is your point, but all I would say is that I think you're very much in the minority. There are always going to be good and bad bats produced by all batmakers - even the best will produce 'bad' bats, if only because clefts are hard to judge for their quality. So that is why I wouldn't really care who the exact batmaker is...

And as I said, if you buy one of ours then I'll tell you who made it!


It's really not that strange that someone would really care about who makes their bats.........that's why professional players sticker up bats made by their favourite maker and don't just use what their given....!

Anyway, all I was trying to find out was whether you actually made the bats yourself and I think it's fair to say you don't so you have answered my question. And, like I said, they do look really nice....
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: Kulli on May 09, 2012, 11:40:43 AM
Most buyers won't care, but on here they will.
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: PedalsMcgrew on May 09, 2012, 12:01:23 PM
Most buyers won't care, but on here they will.

I do find it incredible to think that anyone could say that it doesn't matter who makes the bat YOUR paying for! It does matter and I think I am probably NOT in the minority...

Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: Blenheim Cricket on May 09, 2012, 12:07:10 PM
Fair enough. But given that brands that don't have a single known batmaker such as GN/Kooka/Adidas probably dominate over 50% of the market and GM machine shape for another good portion of the market, I'll conclude (reasonably confidently) that you're in the minority. But please prove me wrong and we'll change our strategy!

Also on your other point - players generally don't care who makes their bats. Sure they might like a particular supplier, but generally speaking it is the supplier they are linked to, not the batmaker.
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: tushar sehgal on May 09, 2012, 12:10:08 PM
There is abt 1200 members on here, few hundred on other forums...there are over 6 billion ppl in the world...even if 1.5 billion played cricket we are all still a very very very small minority...and there are very few ppl outside of forums who care abt who made the bat...

i am genuinely interested in knowing who made my bat if its made in the UK, why? because i have some favorites like most do...but before i joined here it was based on what brands i trusted and not who their bat maker was/is
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: Blenheim Cricket on May 09, 2012, 12:10:56 PM
There is abt 1200 members on here, few hundred on other forums...there are over 6 billion ppl in the world...even if 1.5 billion played cricket we are all still a very very very small minority...and there are very few ppl outside of forums who care abt who made the bat...

No i am genuinely interested in knowing who made my bat if its made in the UK, why? because i have some favorites like most do...but before i joined here it was based on what brands i trusted and not who their bat maker was/is

Exactly, it is about what brands you trust not their specific batmaker...and by all means I can understand that some people want to buy from specific batmakers. But in that case, go direct to the batmaker.

What we are about at Blenheim is supplying good bats. I really hope everyone who gets a Blenheim is really happy with it - I think they should be! And hopefully over time we'll build a reputation for supplying good bats.

And in case you're wondering Pedals (as I think you hinted at), no we don't have a batmaker who is unique to Blenheim! But then we only do 75 bats a year, so we can hardly justify a full-time shaper...
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: Dan W on May 09, 2012, 12:11:27 PM
I do find it incredible to think that anyone could say that it doesn't matter who makes the bat YOUR paying for! It does matter and I think I am probably NOT in the minority...



I'm in the minority with you buddy!
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: PedalsMcgrew on May 09, 2012, 12:39:41 PM
Exactly, it is about what brands you trust not their specific batmaker...and by all means I can understand that some people want to buy from specific batmakers. But in that case, go direct to the batmaker.

What we are about at Blenheim is supplying good bats. I really hope everyone who gets a Blenheim is really happy with it - I think they should be! And hopefully over time we'll build a reputation for supplying good bats.

And in case you're wondering Pedals (as I think you hinted at), no we don't have a batmaker who is unique to Blenheim! But then we only do 75 bats a year, so we can hardly justify a full-time shaper...

That wasn't so difficult to answer was it  ;)

I'm sure every bat you sell is awesome ,It just would have been nice for you to say this in the first place.

And trust me, it does matter who makes the bats I buy and it matters to the majority of people on this forum.........I buy certain brands because I trust them, I steer clear of other brands because I don't trust them. I may be right or wrong in my thoughts about these brands but that's up to me not you. If I don't know where the bats come from I can't make an educated decision on the product. Seeing as how, by your own admission, you are in your infancy as a brand you haven't built up any trust as yet with me because I know nothing about you. That doesn't mean that you're not going to in the future of course but I need something to go on so I want to know who is making your bats......that makes sense doesn't it?  :)
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: Johnny on May 09, 2012, 12:46:27 PM
I don't recall Blenheim ever claiming to make their own bats. They sub-contract just like many other brands. Nothing wrong with that. The product still goes out the door with their livery on it, so it's in their interests to ensure the quality is up to scratch, otherwise it's them that suffers NOT batmaker X
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: PedalsMcgrew on May 09, 2012, 12:50:30 PM
I don't recall Blenheim ever claiming to make their own bats. They sub-contract just like many other brands. Nothing wrong with that. The product still goes out the door with their livery on it, so it's in their interests to ensure the quality is up to scratch, otherwise it's them that suffers NOT batmaker X

I don't recall, until now, them ever claiming they didn't either.......
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: langer17 on May 09, 2012, 12:57:12 PM
I don't recall, until now, them ever claiming they didn't either.......

Blenheim Cricket was founded in 2011 by 3 students at Cambridge University. Two of us have played First-Class cricket for Cambridge in the Varsity Match and played for Cambridge MCCU, while the third has also represented the Blues. In 2011 we provided hand made bats, produced near Cambridge. For the 2012 season we have expanded our range to incorporate pads, gloves, keeping gear and bags.

Could have changed since then, but they never said they made them.

I have a Cambridge, and I have been a bit slack with putting up a review, but it is a fantastic bat, nice pick up, taps up brilliantly and is a nice size for it's weight. I was also very lucky with the price as had it not been a sample shape for the 2012 season, and if it didn't have last years stickers on it, it would have easily been sold for the same price as the bats here, but I was very lucky. I am very impressed with it and will chuck my review up soon :D.
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: epbs on May 09, 2012, 02:49:29 PM
If its any reassurance to the badgers, I know who makes their bats, and they are about as reputable as they come. The guys visited lots of batmakers personally before deciding on the right one for their brand. Over the last ten years I've had Warsop, Hunts, GM, Bellingham & Smith, Newbery, and the Blenheims are as good as any bat I've had - better in most cases. No-one would try to build a brand with shoddy bats at the heart of it, least of all proper cricketers, and decent blokes.
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: jblowe on May 10, 2012, 10:48:39 AM
I have to agree with Pedals, on this forum we do care who has made the bat.  As many on this forum I bats because of who made them, knowing that my H4L is made by Matt, or my Laver is made by James and so on..makes all the difference

I do like the look of the Blenheim bats and living in a part of a small Oxfordshire village which on many OS maps is called Blenheim, I feel a strange sort of affinity to your company.  But I would not buy your bat unless I knew who and where it was made.

It may be to your advantage to add a sticker to your bats, saying "this bat was hand crafted for Blenheim by master bat maker.........................".

then I would put my hand in my pocket
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: tim2000s on May 10, 2012, 11:20:21 AM
I have to agree with Pedals, on this forum we do care who has made the bat.  As many on this forum I bats because of who made them, knowing that my H4L is made by Matt, or my Laver is made by James and so on..makes all the difference

I do like the look of the Blenheim bats and living in a part of a small Oxfordshire village which on many OS maps is called Blenheim, I feel a strange sort of affinity to your company.  But I would not buy your bat unless I knew who and where it was made.

It may be to your advantage to add a sticker to your bats, saying "this bat was hand crafted for Blenheim by master bat maker.........................".

then I would put my hand in my pocket
Or you could call them up and have an off the record conversation about who makes the bats as the batmaker may not want it publicly displayed...
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: epbs on May 10, 2012, 01:52:03 PM
^ Exactly
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: Blenheim Cricket on May 10, 2012, 02:44:20 PM
I have to agree with Pedals, on this forum we do care who has made the bat.  As many on this forum I bats because of who made them, knowing that my H4L is made by Matt, or my Laver is made by James and so on..makes all the difference

I do like the look of the Blenheim bats and living in a part of a small Oxfordshire village which on many OS maps is called Blenheim, I feel a strange sort of affinity to your company.  But I would not buy your bat unless I knew who and where it was made.

It may be to your advantage to add a sticker to your bats, saying "this bat was hand crafted for Blenheim by master bat maker.........................".

then I would put my hand in my pocket

I think there is no doubt that on this forum people care who makes bats, but the vast majority of cricketers don't care. This is exemplified by the bulk of bat sales coming from the major brands who use multiple bat makers/machines.

Thankfully (for us at least!) though, most cricketers aren't big enough badgers to care - perhaps because the majority of individuals just buy a bat on the basis of how it feels and goes. To be entirely honest our target market isn't people who specifically want a bat made by person X. Because if that's what they want they should just go direct to person X. Instead we want to build a brand that provides great quality gear and is renowned for doing so.

Now returning to this topic - if you've got any interest in either of these two sticks let me know. They're both fantastic looking, with great profiles, so I'm sure they'll make the owner pretty chuffed...
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: jblowe on May 10, 2012, 03:13:03 PM
Tim your right as always, just thought it might be a good bit of marketing.
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: Buzz on May 10, 2012, 03:24:11 PM
To keep this on topic I have started a new one to discuss the above elsewhere
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: Blenheim Cricket on August 25, 2012, 10:57:52 AM
This Viceroy still hasn't sold - it is such a blade! Will drop the price to £225 posted, a bargain given the look and size of this piece of willow.
Title: Re: 2012 Bat Range - 1xViceroy and 1xMarlborough G1+
Post by: langer17 on August 29, 2012, 12:51:01 AM
This Viceroy still hasn't sold - it is such a blade! Will drop the price to £225 posted, a bargain given the look and size of this piece of willow.

The weight is the only thing holding me back as it does look like a beast. Absolutely love the Cambridge I have (shame I won't get to use it until the end of November at the earliest).