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Title: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Kieron_BT on August 29, 2012, 12:29:28 PM
Thought it would be interesting to see what your team would be if all of the current England team became unavailable

Who would your XI +sub be?

1. Root (Bat) (OS)
2. Carberry (Bat)
3. Compton (Bat)
4. Roy (Bat)
5. Butler (WK) (Bat)
6. Hamilton-Brown (Bat) (OS)
7. Stokes (Bat) (FM)
8. Woakes (FM) (Bat)
9. Borthwick (LB) (Bat)
10. Dernbach (FM)
11. Meaker (FM)
12. Mills (FM)

I've stayed away from anyone on the fringe, Patel, Morgan, Onions etc

Who would you choose?
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: johnnyw on August 29, 2012, 12:31:13 PM
Last time I checked, Taylor was in the English test team
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Kieron_BT on August 29, 2012, 12:32:21 PM
Ooops! Didn't mean to leave them in

1. Root (Bat) (OS)
2. Carberry (Bat)
3. Compton (Bat)
4. Roy (Bat)
5. Butler (WK) (Bat)
6. Hamilton-Brown (Bat) (OS)
7. Stokes (Bat) (FM)
8. Woakes (FM) (Bat)
9. Borthwick (LB) (Bat)
10. Dernbach (FM)
11. Meaker (FM)
12. Mills (FM)


Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: johnnyw on August 29, 2012, 12:33:12 PM
And bairstow :D
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Kieron_BT on August 29, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
removed above!
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Vantage_Cricket on August 29, 2012, 12:37:39 PM
That's a very young team you've got there.
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Kieron_BT on August 29, 2012, 12:40:03 PM
True, but a very talented young team

9 people that can bat and 8 that can bowl within a team of 12 gives a lot of variety and options
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: ajmw89 on August 29, 2012, 12:46:31 PM
Would most likely go with steve davis at surrey as the keeper, or does he count as a fringe player?
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Kieron_BT on August 29, 2012, 12:49:50 PM
Wouldn't say so, a very good shout i think

1. Root (Bat) (OS)
2. Carberry (Bat)
3. Compton (Bat)
4. Roy (Bat)
5. Davies (WK) (Bat)
6. Hamilton-Brown (Bat) (OS)
7. Stokes (Bat) (FM)
8. Woakes (FM) (Bat)
9. Borthwick (LB) (Bat)
10. Dernbach (FM)
11. Meaker (FM)

Dropped mills for the final XI!
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: johnnyw on August 29, 2012, 12:53:35 PM
1. Hales
2. Carberry
3. Chopra
4. Compton
5. Stokes
6. Nash
7. Davis
8. Woakes
9. Kerrigan (Dockrell if he was not Irish)
10. Harris
11. Meaker
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Kieron_BT on August 29, 2012, 12:54:29 PM
Very solid

Certainly a bright future for England when you look at all the young options they have available
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Vantage_Cricket on August 29, 2012, 01:08:17 PM
What about Boyd Rankin after saying he wants to play for England - also Topley? young left armer
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: ajmw89 on August 29, 2012, 01:10:44 PM
Hales
Carberry
Compton
Hamilton-Brown
Davies (WK)
Stokes
Ansari
Woakes
Borthwick
Meaker
Dernbach
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Kieron_BT on August 29, 2012, 01:22:41 PM
No Root?

He seems to be next in line for the test opening spot?
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: johnnyw on August 29, 2012, 01:35:57 PM
I think root is englands steve smith. Built up to be a player he is not
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: ajmw89 on August 29, 2012, 01:42:17 PM
Haven't seen any/enough of him to pass comment. Roy isn't good enough either imo, as a surrey fan!
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Vantage_Cricket on August 29, 2012, 01:51:31 PM
Haven't seen any/enough of him to pass comment. Roy isn't good enough either imo, as a surrey fan!

I agree that Roy isn't good enough, hasn't performed at all this year - then again noone at surrey has really...

Regarding Root, he's not a T20 player - I think he'd thrive in the test arena though.
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: ajmw89 on August 29, 2012, 01:55:28 PM
I don't think roy has the temperament to succeed at test level either.  He is very hot headed.  Any time he scores at less than a run a ball he regards it as a failure
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: bigbenh99 on August 29, 2012, 02:07:34 PM
I think Varun Chopra is someone who deserves some mention, he's had a fantastic 2 seasons since moving to Warwickshire, finally got recognition with a Lions game a fortnight ago. He seems to be someone who doesn't get much/any media attention but just puts up very good numbers with very consistent performances. He can also clearly handle a lot of pressure and a big workload, as having Westwood and Porterfield as the other members of a top 3 means he's relied on to make 80% of the runs!
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: bigbenh99 on August 29, 2012, 02:24:35 PM
He's been scoring for fun last few weeks, but I don't think that excuses several seasons of mediocrity!
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Kieron_BT on August 29, 2012, 02:29:35 PM
I think exactly the same, Root is not a T20 player and I think will be another Cook that beomces more of a OD batsman after a few years.

Hes a test players, a Vaughn copy. Why not throw someone in at the deep end instead of letting people get on a bit, throwing them in and then not giving them enough time to sort out what they need to learn.


Bairstow being a perfect example!
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Manormanic on August 29, 2012, 03:09:04 PM
I think root is englands steve smith. Built up to be a player he is not

Root is going to be a thoroughly excellent player - but not in T20 cricket.  He only made our side because of his ability to bowl a few overs of not-at-all-bad part time off spin.  Peanut (Adam Lyth) should have been in as a batsman really.
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Manormanic on August 29, 2012, 03:20:21 PM
Okay, discounting anyone who has been in a test squad this season, I would look at:

Joe Root
Adam Lyth
Michael Carberry
Eoin Morgan
Gary Ballance
Ben Stokes
Craig Kieswetter
Azim Rafiq
Stuart Meaker
Toby Roland-Jones
Simon Kerrigan
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: procricket on August 29, 2012, 03:23:05 PM
Ballance oh no

Ansari looks like he has potential


Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: ajmw89 on August 29, 2012, 03:46:23 PM
Ansari is class, although he should not be used as an opener imo
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Manormanic on August 29, 2012, 05:25:52 PM
Ballance oh no

Ansari looks like he has potential

Ballance has shown a lot of potential - a good technique, lots of power etc.  If he were at Surrey, people would be drooling over him.

Though n reflection, I'd drop him from my side to accommodate Andrew Gale, as a smart skipper is needed.
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: petehosk on August 29, 2012, 05:29:56 PM
No way I would leave Buttler out!!
Even if he doesn't keep, he is still a class mid-order bat!!
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: dhackett89 on August 29, 2012, 05:43:06 PM
anyone seen much of rob newton at northants great numbers recently i'm a bit biased as hes a mate of mine but gonna be a hell of a good player!
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: jw17 on August 29, 2012, 10:29:35 PM
Am i missing something but i thought Ballance was Zimbabwean?
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Kulli on August 30, 2012, 06:27:33 AM
Since when did that get in the way of anything.

He's not classed as an overseas player so i presume that he at least has a European passport (do we have a trade agreement with Zimbabwe?)
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Buzz on August 30, 2012, 07:40:24 AM
Based on the averages in the 1st division of the CC, I am going for the below. I am not enthoused by filling my team with youngsters...

Westwood
Lumb
NRD Compton
Hildreth
Hamilton-Brown
C Kieswetter
Clarke
CR Woakes
Meaker
Roland-Jones
Panasar
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Sam on September 02, 2012, 11:29:23 AM
And who would you guys pick as captain as well?
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Kieron_BT on September 02, 2012, 06:31:50 PM
Hamilton-Brown i guess would be the favourite with his experience as captain
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: The_Bird on September 02, 2012, 06:39:47 PM
No-one gone for Chris Read?

819 runs @ 48 is pretty handy for a W/K who captains.
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Kieron_BT on September 02, 2012, 11:08:57 PM
Very good but CR has had his chance and would be like going backwards instead of going with the young talent and future of England.
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Manormanic on September 03, 2012, 09:34:29 AM
Very good but CR has had his chance and would be like going backwards instead of going with the young talent and future of England.

and if you were going to Read you'd probably continue past him as far as James Foster...
Title: Re: What if all the current England team became unavailable?
Post by: Village Trundler on September 03, 2012, 09:57:30 AM
Ashwell prince
Van jarsveld
Faf de plieses
 
Could probably round out the middle order for you :P