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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: Nickauger on November 26, 2012, 06:53:47 PM
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Following on from the Rikki Clarke topic, who at your club or any others who you may know, will be pushing for International honours in a few years time.
I will start with a few Somerset boys:
Lewis Gregory, long term will bat 4 for Somerset, and bowls in the high 80's at only 20. Trusted with the death bowling, hits good yorkers. Serious talent.
The Overton twins (Thanks the_bird). Tall, quick, can hold a bat, and 18 (I think).
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It will have to be long term because its not a bad batting line up they have at present! Went to watch Somerset last year and he bowled very well, didn't look the quickest on show but beat the bat regularly
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Simon Kerrigan
Joe Root
Alex Davies
Ben Stokes
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Michael Bates
Chris Wood
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Michael Bates
Chris Wood
No
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Dan Redfern could develop into a serious player
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Azeem Rafiq, top competitor
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Bates is the best young keeper in the country...probably by quite a distance
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Azeem Rafiq, top competitor
Hahahahahha See? We can both do it! ;)
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Bates is a top class glove man but not good enough batter
James Vincent could if he could hit consistency I played against him a few years ago he took the pass top player I thought if only he could nail it the talent is there
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Azeem Rafiq, top competitor
I was going to mention Rafiq, impressed me last season with his attitude as much as his skill. Spinners are what England will need in the not too distant future with Swann and Panesar both the wrong side of 30
Also every time I watched Yorkshire last season Gary Ballance had runs, and quickly too. He's more of a one-day specialist and im not even sure if hes England-qualified yet but he can certainly bat
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very good keeper i agree
his batting is woeful though and england surely wouldnt someone that bad
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Ballance is england qualified as far as i know
isnt he included in the Lions or performance squad?
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Azeem Rafiq, top competitor
There is something about this guy, proper Yorkshire grit.
Dan Redfern reminds me of Khawaja, all the shots but weak mentally.
RHB I'm positive has something to give at international level but time might pass him by..
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No they would rather have a batter who can keep Alex Davies is for me as good a batsman and can keep remember prior should have 4 to 6 years left
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too early to mention Alex Davies surely
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And Alex is a proper young pup - 19? A really good lad too - humble, a bit like Prior (well, he was as a 14 year old - if you can be THAT good at 14 and humble with it I'm hoping it's the kind of trait you don't grow out of)
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Ben Foakes
Aneesh Kapil
Reece Topley
Shiv Thakor
Bell Drummond can play apparently
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Reece Topley looks handy and Ben Foakes should breakthrough when Foster hangs them up at Essex
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Daniel Bell-Drummond
Adam Ball
Sam Billings
All played a bit of county or 1 day cricket all from Kent who could do with some international players and all class acts. Bell-Drummond hits the ball a country mile and billings just looks class, saw him playing for Hartley sat year and also on tv. Michael atherton really rates him as well
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Think I watched a game where Billings had runs towards the end of the season, does he open?
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In one-day stuff particularly well
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Bell- Drummond does look like he's got a very solid technique!
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James Vincent could if he could hit consistency I played against him a few years ago he took the pass top player I thought if only he could nail it the talent is there
I think this guy is probably past it, given he is stuck in Thailand?
Rory Hamilton-Brown.
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Bell Drummond and Northeast had a good game against the saffas if I remember rightly?
Varun Chopra from Warwickshire deserves a mention, 1k runs in division one which not many else at his age can say.
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I'm surprised you aren't putting your son forward Buzz! :D
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Aneesh Kapil
Nope, average bowler at best and a pretty terrible bat
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Bates is the best young keeper in the country...probably by quite a distance
Richard Johnson formally of Warwickshire and now Derbyshire is a much much better keeper/batsman than Bates
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I'm surprised you aren't putting your son forward Buzz! :D
good thinking "Viv" Buzz (available in 18 years time - he will be 3 in two weeks)
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Richard Johnson formally of Warwickshire and now Derbyshire is a much much better keeper/batsman than Bates
Poynton is a very good keeper as well reds, will he get a chance there?
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It's going to be a hell of a fight for that position mate. Johnno was betting at 5 for warks this year so he may get into the team for batting alone
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Jason Roy, Ben Stokes, James Harris, Scott Borthwick, Ross Whiteley, Nathan Buck, James Vince, Matt Coles, Liam Dawson, Boyd Rankin
Then players breaking through - Joe Root, James Taylor, Jonny Bairstow, Jos Buttler, Alex Hales, Chris Woakes, Danny Briggs, Stuart Meaker,
Few good young players about !
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At Yorkshire...Rafiq, obviously, is being groomed to replace Swann, and I still see an international future for Adil Rashid to boot. A third Asian lad, Moin Ashraf, should get into the frame in 18 months or so, probably for the one dayers initially. Root and Bairstow are obvious and you will all know that Gary Ballance and Adam Lyth are contenders with the bat. One you may not have heard of is Jack Leaning, who has the potential to deveLop big style.
At Middlesex, because I'm a member there too, I'd say Toby Roland Jones and John Simpson are the main contenders.
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Malan had a good year
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Malan had a good year
not got the technical ability though...
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Jason Roy, Ben Stokes, James Harris, Scott Borthwick, Ross Whiteley, Nathan Buck, James Vince, Matt Coles, Liam Dawson, Boyd Rankin
pretty much the performance programme squad, did you just copy and paste this?
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I'll back Toby roland Jones, he looks a tall, nippy prospect. Also the welsh boy Harris who has joined us this year. we may have a handy bowling attack next year!
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think he's been mentioned but simon kerrigan.
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Ashraf may get fast tracked very impressive him
Not convinced Simmy is good enough with bat or gloves but he is improving and quality
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I cant see Ashraf gettin a go really, not sure the rumours of him reaching 180mph on his parody twitter account are true
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Just backing Manormanic, there's a lot of 'potential' at Yorkshire, just waiting to see who can really make the step up. Nice to see 'our' Jack Leaning getting a mention too.
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I've been wracking my brains trying to remember his name and then it came to me. Matt Dunn of Surrey.
http://www.kiaoval.com/matthew-dunn/
Thorpe reckons he's the quickest thing he's seen in years and he's only 19. Thorpe is a pretty good judge of a player as well.
Has anyone mentioned Sam Northeast? A lot of ex pro's seem to rate him very highly although I haven't seen enough to know if it's deserved....
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I think Sam is just starting to kick on. I think he had a slow start, but Kent batted him at 3 for much of the season, and I'm sure he got some good runs before the end of the season.
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Northeast opened last year.
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Kents leading run scorer in county championship I believe
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Fabian cowdrey is another to prospect at kent
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Rob newton had a great season for northants. Very talented and gives it a whack despite being five foot six. Not many young English players got twin tons last year?
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My boys the Bears:
Woakes & Chopra are definitely worthy of breaking through in next couple years
Keith Barker is very inexperienced but has excelled this season with the ball, as well as being very very handy with the bat
Paul Best former England U19 captain, has skippered Bears 2nd XI as well, still only 21, good spinner and has a first class 150 to his name, could be one for the future, especially with (as already mentioned) Swanny and Monty both being over 30
Also, Boyd Rankin is a tough one for me, he CAN be dangerous with the ball, but he hasn't even broken into the Bears 1st XI on regular basis so I don't see how he deserves his place in Lions set up, let alone how he'll challenge for England spot with all the competition
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what about Tymal Mills at Essex - i know he is still very raw but anyone who is bowling 90mph plus at 20 years old is a serious prospect.
also with regards to our next spinner/s - although i do rate Rafiq, i think it will be Briggs that will get 1st go when Swann and Monty hang up their boots.
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Michael Bates
Chris Wood
sorry, but this is a terrible shout!
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Fabian cowdrey is another to prospect at kent
Oh dear god.
Alex davies will suceed at county not international i feel (i hope he proves me wrong as he is a good friend) . Overton brothers are over-rated. Adam ball and bell drummond have correct mentality, always have. Though i feel they may move from kent as the progress.
Players too look out for. Jonny clare- he is one good season away from catching the eye of most people.
Gavin gritths is always improving. Imrpoved massively over the years and bowls a decent pace now
There is no one unfortunately who is standing out massively at the moment.
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anyone said danny briggs?
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Oh dear god.
Alex davies will suceed at county not international i feel (i hope he proves me wrong as he is a good friend) . Overton brothers are over-rated. Adam ball and bell drummond have correct mentality, always have. Though i feel they may move from kent as the progress.
Players too look out for. Jonny clare- he is one good season away from catching the eye of most people.
Gavin gritths is always improving. Imrpoved massively over the years and bowls a decent pace now
There is no one unfortunately who is standing out massively at the moment.
Woah pal, that is your opinion, and as far as I'm concerned, Jonny Clare is complete Pony! Just because you know a bloke, doesn't make you the worlds most forefront expert.
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Im saying oh dear god to fabian cowdry being mentioned?
And where have i said im an expert, everyone gives an opinion? And with regards to knowing a "bloke" im reffering to alex davies and ive said what i think? Whats wrong with that.
Fair enough if you think he's a pony, i disagree.
Wanna jump down my neck about anything else?
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sorry, but this is a terrible shout!
I hate having to repeat myself but Bates is the best young keeper in the country. His batting needs to improve, granted, but anyone who watched any cricket last season should know how good he is with the gloves....a terrible shout? Hardly....
As for Chris Wood whilst his pace isn't up there his mentality is. As evidenced by his performances in the two finals he played in last season. He also hit 99 in a championship game as well so he can bat a bit (albeit the opposition was Derbyshire I think!) Same as Bates he was an intrinsic part of a squad that won both domestic limited overs competitions....
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I hate having to repeat myself but Bates is the best young keeper in the country. His batting needs to improve, granted, but anyone who watched any cricket last season should know how good he is with the gloves....a terrible shout? Hardly....
As for Chris Wood whilst his pace isn't up there his mentality is. As evidenced by his performances in the two finals he played in last season. He also hit 99 in a championship game as well so he can bat a bit (albeit the opposition was Derbyshire I think!) Same as Bates he was an intrinsic part of a squad that won both domestic limited overs competitions....
Thats how to reply if you don't agree with something :)
Why can't more people be like you pedals. Diplomatic response!
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Im saying oh dear god to fabian cowdry being mentioned?
And where have i said im an expert, everyone gives an opinion? And with regards to knowing a "bloke" im reffering to alex davies and ive said what i think? Whats wrong with that.
Fair enough if you think he's a pony, i disagree.
Wanna jump down my neck about anything else?
Was just answering your opinion with the same disdain you showed every-one else! It was tongue in cheek
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Im saying oh dear god to fabian cowdry being mentioned?
I presume he is one of THE Cowdreys? Lets hope he turns into more of a Colin than a Chris
The truth of it is that there are many players we don't rate now that will become international players. If someone had said in 2000 that Paul Collingwood would play 68 Test matches with an average above 40, captain England to a World Cup win and be awarded an M.B.E they would have been laughed at. Many of these talented players mentioned will be found wanting in some department whilst others that have not been mentioned in this post will have successful international careers
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Thats how to reply if you don't agree with something :)
Why can't more people be like you pedals. Diplomatic response!
I did have to re-write it 3 times before I posted it though! ;) I toned it down each time! :D
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Okay honey.
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I presume he is one of THE Cowdreys? Lets hope he turns into more of a Colin than a Chris
The truth of it is that there are many players we don't rate now that will become international players. If someone had said in 2000 that Paul Collingwood would play 68 Test matches with an average above 40, captain England to a World Cup win and be awarded an M.B.E they would have been laughed at. Many of these talented players mentioned will be found wanting in some department whilst others that have not been mentioned in this post will have successful international careers
He is yeh. He was very favoured at kent when he was younger because of his famous cricketing links. Though half of his own team really didnt like him.
And yep your completely right. Future england internationals could just be playing league cricket right now. Only time will tell.
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I did have to re-write it 3 times before I posted it though! ;) I toned it down each time! :D
Im exactly the same, i'll write something out 4 times, then give up and not even bother commenting haha
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Ollie stone at northants
Tom Milnes at Warwickshire (although from what I'm told, needs to keep his gob shut)
Both bowl mid - high 80s
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Im exactly the same, i'll write something out 4 times, then give up and not even bother commenting haha
ditto! I've written some outrageous thing in the past then bottled out of posting them! Think before you post is my new watchword!
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Ansari from Surrey has some good attributes with bat and ball and is supposed to be very intelligent too
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Didn't he miss a few games last season in order to sit his finals at Cambridge/Oxford university? Bright lad obviously! I was going to mention him myself.....I still think Matt Dunn is the big hope at Surrey though....according to a report I read last season he's quicker than Meaker...Surrey could find themselves with a pretty rapid opening attack fairly soon....
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As for Chris Wood whilst his pace isn't up there his mentality is. As evidenced by his performances in the two finals he played in last season. He also hit 99 in a championship game as well so he can bat a bit (albeit the opposition was Derbyshire I think!).
Derby went up as Div 2 winners last season, not the perennial whipping boys of yore.
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Jon Clare is a poor man chris woakes
He has done very well for himself getting a gig somewhere
Always a talent though at league level top class not a chance only in my opinion though
He has done well in division 2
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Ansari from Surrey has some good attributes with bat and ball and is supposed to be very intelligent too
Expect most of the young Surrey boys to flourish under Smith.
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Rory Burns is the one - he may not be the most talented, but has a bit about him in the noggin, Cook-lite perhaps?
Ansari's a bit meh at the mo.
How about Sarah Taylor for reserve wicketkeeper?
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I hate having to repeat myself but Bates is the best young keeper in the country. His batting needs to improve, granted, but anyone who watched any cricket last season should know how good he is with the gloves....a terrible shout? Hardly....
As for Chris Wood whilst his pace isn't up there his mentality is. As evidenced by his performances in the two finals he played in last season. He also hit 99 in a championship game as well so he can bat a bit (albeit the opposition was Derbyshire I think!) Same as Bates he was an intrinsic part of a squad that won both domestic limited overs competitions....
You may be right about one or both but I really can't see it.
Bates is undoubtedly a good gloveman - but he's no James Foster, and the selectors have tended to look for a bit more than just nice glovework from their keepers. It might be trite to say that Bairstow will inherit from Prior eventually because they may decide to leave him as a specialist batsman, but its hard then to see how Bates gets past Bedwetter, Buttler, Billings, Davies and a few others who may not be quite as good with the gloves but are light years ahead as all round cricketers.
Wood...no, I really just don't see that at all. He is a good county player in teh making but there is very little chance he would ever be qick enough for the top level even if his skills keep improving.
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You say that but it's not so long ago that Tremlett was bowling at 80 mph.... :) Broad still is! Vernon Philander doesn't struggle to take wickets either.....
As for Bates, it may well be that his batting precludes him from ever playing international cricket but it won't be his keeping ability! Comparing him to Foster is like comparing a young batsman to Tendulkar! Not fair!
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Rory Burns is the one - he may not be the most talented, but has a bit about him in the noggin, Cook-lite perhaps?
Ansari's a bit meh at the mo.
How about Sarah Taylor for reserve wicketkeeper?
Burns definitely has the ability to grind out runs whilst not looking flashy, think he could be very good potentially.
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You say that but it's not so long ago that Tremlett was bowling at 80 mph.... :) Broad still is! Vernon Philander doesn't struggle to take wickets either.....
As for Bates, it may well be that his batting precludes him from ever playing international cricket but it won't be his keeping ability! Comparing him to Foster is like comparing a young batsman to Tendulkar! Not fair!
Wood is struggling to even reach 80mph - he was mostly gunning 75 when I saw him last year - and looks to bowl a light rather than heavy ball.
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Accuracy is gradually becoming the key at the top level so i'd be looking at economy rather than wheels. Also with all these huge fast bowlers charging in getting injured (all the aussie pack) someone with a smooth, simple, repeatable action are the only ones that seem to stay fit for long enough. Hasn't wood got a crazy action? Or is that the worcestershire lad?
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you're thinking of Jack Shantry
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you're thinking of Jack Shantry
How that guy hasn't crocked himself is beyond me
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Woods action isn't poetry in motion either
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Why is Fabian Cowdry being dismissed out of hand by some people?? He was the top run scorer in the Kent Premier league last season which is no easy feat trust me. Plus the boy is about 17 yrs old. Having played against him i believe the boy is class. I know my opinion is not going to have any impact on his career and i have no idea of what type of person he is but the boy can bat that is for sure.
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He's decent yeh. But not the standard of internationals and of adam ball and danny BD who are also the same age.
There was a lot of surprise when he got offered his kent contract.
Is he still carrying some weight? Also he's 19/20!
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Wood is struggling to even reach 80mph - he was mostly gunning 75 when I saw him last year - and looks to bowl a light rather than heavy ball.
Just like Stuart Broad then! ;)
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i think dan redfern could turn into a really good player but i dont think derbyshire can get that out of him,
alex hales i reckon is a shoe in and im surprised he wasnt picked ahead of root,
then theres root himself who i can see (along with hales) opening the batting for many years to come,
other than that except for maybe rafiq i dont think england have much to look forward to unfortunately
excluding those youngsters who have already played test match cricket
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Really? I like this as a team with international potential all under 23 at present...
Root (Yorkshire)
Bell Drummond (Kent)
Hales (Notts)
Bairstow (Yorkshire)
Thakor (Leicestershire)
Ballance (Yorkshire)
Overton (Somerset)
Rafiq (Yorkshire)
Kerrigan (Lancashire)
Mills (Essex)
Roland-Jones (Middlesex)
12th Man - Ansari (Surrey)
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I think Ballance is a Zimbabwean isn't he?
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Nope, eligible for England having been here since he was 13.
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Old Harrovian too
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I really hope Shiv Thakor becomes amazing i just like him as a player and can bowl a bit.
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he certainly could be - I think his attitude is exceptional- he doesn't seem to get phased or even out of his comfort zone, which for his age is very unusual. Of course there have been similar players who have made it to the county game young and some have made it - Cook, Bell, Bresnan and Swann of the current England set up - where as some fall just short - one wonders if James Harris might end up one of these.