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Re: Long term replacements for current England players
« Reply #60 on: November 27, 2012, 05:50:44 PM »

I presume he is one of THE Cowdreys? Lets hope he turns into more of a Colin than a Chris

The truth of it is that there are many players we don't rate now that will become international players. If someone had said in 2000 that Paul Collingwood would play 68 Test matches with an average above 40, captain England to a World Cup win and be awarded an M.B.E they would have been laughed at. Many of these talented players mentioned will be found wanting in some department whilst others that have not been mentioned in this post will have successful international careers

He is yeh. He was very favoured at kent when he was younger because of his famous cricketing links.  Though half of his own team really didnt like him.

And yep your completely right.  Future england internationals could just be playing league cricket right now.  Only time will tell.
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Re: Long term replacements for current England players
« Reply #61 on: November 27, 2012, 05:52:20 PM »

I did have to re-write it 3 times before I posted it though!  ;) I toned it down each time!  :D

Im exactly the same, i'll write something out 4 times, then give up and not even bother commenting haha
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Re: Long term replacements for current England players
« Reply #62 on: November 27, 2012, 05:53:08 PM »

Ollie stone at northants

Tom Milnes at Warwickshire (although from what I'm told, needs to keep his gob shut)

Both bowl mid - high 80s
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Re: Long term replacements for current England players
« Reply #63 on: November 27, 2012, 05:59:49 PM »

Im exactly the same, i'll write something out 4 times, then give up and not even bother commenting haha

ditto! I've written some outrageous thing in the past then bottled out of posting them! Think before you post is my new watchword!
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Re: Long term replacements for current England players
« Reply #64 on: November 27, 2012, 06:00:30 PM »

Ansari from Surrey has some good attributes with bat and ball and is supposed to be very intelligent too
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Re: Long term replacements for current England players
« Reply #65 on: November 27, 2012, 06:02:52 PM »

Didn't he miss a few games last season in order to sit his finals at Cambridge/Oxford university? Bright lad obviously! I was going to mention him myself.....I still think Matt Dunn is the big hope at Surrey though....according to a report I read last season he's quicker than Meaker...Surrey could find themselves with a pretty rapid opening attack fairly soon....
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Re: Long term replacements for current England players
« Reply #66 on: November 27, 2012, 06:20:58 PM »

As for Chris Wood whilst his pace isn't up there his mentality is. As evidenced by his performances in the two finals he played in last season. He also hit 99 in a championship game as well so he can bat a bit (albeit the opposition was Derbyshire I think!).


Derby went up as Div 2 winners last season, not the perennial whipping boys of yore.
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Re: Long term replacements for current England players
« Reply #67 on: November 27, 2012, 06:22:02 PM »

Jon Clare  is a poor man chris woakes

He has done very well for himself getting a gig somewhere

Always a talent though at league level top class not a chance only in my opinion though
He has done well in division 2
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Re: Long term replacements for current England players
« Reply #68 on: November 27, 2012, 06:27:37 PM »

Ansari from Surrey has some good attributes with bat and ball and is supposed to be very intelligent too

Expect most of the young Surrey boys to flourish under Smith.
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Re: Long term replacements for current England players
« Reply #69 on: November 27, 2012, 06:36:45 PM »

Rory Burns is the one - he may not be the most talented, but has a bit about him in the noggin, Cook-lite perhaps?

Ansari's a bit meh at the mo.

How about Sarah Taylor for reserve wicketkeeper?
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Re: Long term replacements for current England players
« Reply #70 on: November 27, 2012, 07:08:03 PM »

I hate having to repeat myself but Bates is the best young keeper in the country. His batting needs to improve, granted, but anyone who watched any cricket last season should know how good he is with the gloves....a terrible shout? Hardly....

As for Chris Wood whilst his pace isn't up there his mentality is. As evidenced by his performances in the two finals he played in last season. He also hit 99 in a championship game as well so he can bat a bit (albeit the opposition was Derbyshire I think!) Same as Bates he was an intrinsic part of a squad that won both domestic limited overs competitions....


You may be right about one or both but I really can't see it. 

Bates is undoubtedly a good gloveman - but he's no James Foster, and the selectors have tended to look for a bit more than just nice glovework from their keepers.  It might be trite to say that Bairstow will inherit from Prior eventually because they may decide to leave him as a specialist batsman, but its hard then to see how Bates gets past Bedwetter, Buttler, Billings, Davies and a few others who may not be quite as good with the gloves but are light years ahead as all round cricketers.

Wood...no, I really just don't see that at all.  He is a good county player in teh making but there is very little chance he would ever be qick enough for the top level even if his skills keep improving.
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Re: Long term replacements for current England players
« Reply #71 on: November 27, 2012, 07:22:12 PM »

You say that but it's not so long ago that Tremlett was bowling at 80 mph.... :) Broad still is! Vernon Philander doesn't struggle to take wickets either.....

As for Bates, it may well be that his batting precludes him from ever playing international cricket but it won't be his keeping ability! Comparing him to Foster is like comparing a young batsman to Tendulkar! Not fair!
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Re: Long term replacements for current England players
« Reply #72 on: November 27, 2012, 07:26:33 PM »

Rory Burns is the one - he may not be the most talented, but has a bit about him in the noggin, Cook-lite perhaps?

Ansari's a bit meh at the mo.

How about Sarah Taylor for reserve wicketkeeper?

Burns definitely has the ability to grind out runs whilst not looking flashy, think he could be very good potentially.
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Re: Long term replacements for current England players
« Reply #73 on: November 27, 2012, 07:34:24 PM »

You say that but it's not so long ago that Tremlett was bowling at 80 mph.... :) Broad still is! Vernon Philander doesn't struggle to take wickets either.....

As for Bates, it may well be that his batting precludes him from ever playing international cricket but it won't be his keeping ability! Comparing him to Foster is like comparing a young batsman to Tendulkar! Not fair!

Wood is struggling to even reach 80mph - he was mostly gunning 75 when I saw him last year - and looks to bowl a light rather than heavy ball.
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Re: Long term replacements for current England players
« Reply #74 on: November 27, 2012, 07:39:57 PM »

Accuracy is gradually becoming the key at the top level so i'd be looking at economy rather than wheels. Also with all these huge fast bowlers charging in getting injured (all the aussie pack) someone with a smooth, simple, repeatable action are the only ones that seem to stay fit for long enough. Hasn't wood got a crazy action? Or is that the worcestershire lad?
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