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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: lethalshrapnel on April 17, 2013, 04:31:56 PM
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So, I'm really excited about getting my first custom bat made. I typically use a 2.12 and that gives me the option of getting a Tendulkar profile with no concaving with a fairly chunky edge. From whatever I have read on the forum, people get concaving to attain bigger edges in lighter bats. Assuming the weight is around 2.12/2.13 though, which bat would pick up better? See, I'm quite excited about owning a bat similiar to the little master but would opt for some concaving if that would mean that the bat would pick up better.
Would be great to hear from other forum membahs with the Sachin profile. Cheers!
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Concaving does usually allow you to get bigger edges, plus concaving can give better/lighter pick-up, depending on how high or low the middle is.
Another factor is how well it is balanced! I have had some bats that have a mid-low middle with no concaving and because they are so well balanced, seemed to pickup an ounce or so lighter than they should have!! :o
If you can use a 2'12 bat confortably, then I would always go with a bat with no concaving! I have a few with this kind of spec and no concaving, and the middles on these bats are both long and exceptionally wide!!
Whatever you decide, best of luck to you 8)
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Doesn't having extra grips help with the pick-up?
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It can do...but the trade off for that is a heavier dead weight!!
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You could try a counter weight on top of the handle but not sure if it works .... Anyone tried it with golfers lead tape?
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Thanks for the nudge Pete! I do want to get a bat with no concaving but was just a teeny bit afraid about the pick up. I certainly want a mid/low middle. On most days I'm comfortable with a 2.12. Fairly low slow piches most of the time. Sometimes though I either get a bouncy track or a quick bowler and then I can struggle a bit with the cut. I usually trigger or not play the cut at all in those instances. Provided I'm still there ofcourse. Lighter bats just smell fishy you know?
Well, I suppose I'll simply have to trust the batmaker to get the balance right! Thanks, again...
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I like one grip. Certainly no more than two.
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http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=10761.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=10761.0)
This is mine mate. Very close to a Tendulkar profile, but weighs 2.8 and goes like sh*t off a shovel. It's probably the closest you would ever get to that shape at that weight.
I got lucky ;)
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I would say that you are best with a non-concaved bat with decent sized edges. Edges aren't everything, I think around 30mm is a good size. :) In terms of pick up, I find that concaved and non-concaved bats generally pick up the same, it's all about the distribution of wood and how the batmaker has balanced the bat. 8)
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Ooh, heavy bats, my specialist subject.
If you are going for a Tendulkar style profile, you need to accept that it will, more or less, pick up its weight come what may - the only similar thing I've seen that doesn;t is a modified Hattori that Matt made me last year, which maybe comes in an ounce light in feel. If you want to feel like you haven't got a 3lb-ER, you need a higher spine, which elongates the middle and seems to give a knife like pick up (M&H Distinction and H4L Tempo in my possession both feature this) or look for a light weight cleft - which usually means one that is not so cosmetically sppealing (I have a 3lb Powerbow Extreme that doesn't feel anything of the sort).
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I would say its down to the bat maker. No bat should have a heavy pick up unless you purposely ask for it. A decent bat maker should be able to balance a bat. If your a bit worried maybe lose a couple of mm off the edges and put some more wood up by the shoulders.
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You call 2lb12 heavy??
If you can use the weight your fine but I see too many get swayed by the size of heavy bats then can't lift them which is quite funny
Down to skill of bat maker to make them pick up light but I've found as others more concaving tend to pick up lighter but I prefer meeeeeaaaaattt
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Just to confirm, that bat I posted is a Hattori and picks up very light. Roco, you can have a go when we play you mate
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Ill have a swing or two
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You call 2lb12 heavy??
If you can use the weight your fine but I see too many get swayed by the size of heavy bats then can't lift them which is quite funny
Down to skill of bat maker to make them pick up light but I've found as others more concaving tend to pick up lighter but I prefer meeeeeaaaaattt
I don't think thats heavy at all mate which is why I play with that weight. But, generally speaking, people play with much lighter bats. My last two bats weighed 2.12ish. I tend go at short stuff outside off like a woodcutter on crystal meth so was wondering if a no concaving low middle would affect my efficacy but I'm gonna try anyhoo. This is, after all, the first of many customs. Touchwood.
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Ooh, heavy bats, my specialist subject.
If you are going for a Tendulkar style profile, you need to accept that it will, more or less, pick up its weight come what may - the only similar thing I've seen that doesn;t is a modified Hattori that Matt made me last year, which maybe comes in an ounce light in feel. If you want to feel like you haven't got a 3lb-ER, you need a higher spine, which elongates the middle and seems to give a knife like pick up (M&H Distinction and H4L Tempo in my possession both feature this) or look for a light weight cleft - which usually means one that is not so cosmetically sppealing (I have a 3lb Powerbow Extreme that doesn't feel anything of the sort).
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=22656.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=22656.0)
Was just checking this out......kinda speechless! That spine...
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Try a hammer ST mate, very good bats and not a bad price point really . I have the core model and its excellent mate
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my match bat is 2.15 but i think it picks up 2.12ish its well balanced ryan just took loads of weight out of the toe and shifted the middle bit higher up picks up a dream and goes like the clappers
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my match bat is 2.15 but i think it picks up 2.12ish its well balanced ryan just took loads of weight out of the toe and shifted the middle bit higher up picks up a dream and goes like the clappers
Ryan's bat he just made for me at 3lbs is incredibly well balanced honestly can't believe it's that heavy picks up as a 2'13.
Pictures can be found http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=23610.new#new (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=23610.new#new)
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Ha! Slightly shorter blade with longer handle. Another intriguing option. No wonder you chaps have so many bats!
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Hang on a sec, it's not just about the pick-up. Pete got his hands on an Icon that weighed a little over three pounds that was allegedly one used by Ravi Bop.
The pick-up on this bat was stunning. There was no way on earth it felt like a 3lb+ bat. Stunning. And then we all came to use it. And behold the curse of the three pounder struck. All of us were used to something between about 2lb 10oz and 2lb 12oz. All of us were late with our shots, slow aligning the bat with the ball, etc, to such an extent that you could see the delay as we were facing the bowling machine.
That's not to say that we couldn't relearn our muscles to cope with a heavier bat, or build up strength to do it. Simply that in order to make such a significant jump in weight, there was a clear impact to it.
So while lightweight pick-up on a heavier bat is important, it isn't just that that affects the way you play, as you still have to be able to time and propel the bat in a fashion that means you aren't getting bowled/edges/are sticll scoring runs, and that adjustment may take a lot longer.
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I have seen a bat Sachin had used as a net bat and the pick up on that beast was mindblowing. It was a 2.14 with zero concaving but it felt way lighter than any of the concaved 2.12s I have used. But we mortals shouldn't expect such extraordinary pick up I suppose.
Fair point. I won't be going beyond 2.12 for sure.
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This is mine mate. Very close to a Tendulkar profile, but weighs 2.8 and goes like sh*t off a shovel. It's probably the closest you would ever get to that shape at that weight.
I got lucky ;)
That is still to this day, the best looking bat on this forum! You're a lucky boy! ;)
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Hang on a sec, it's not just about the pick-up. Pete got his hands on an Icon that weighed a little over three pounds that was allegedly one used by Ravi Bop.
SHAQ!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for the inputs everyone. I've placed my order. Now the waiting begins...
Torture!
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What did you order?
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The Sachin Tendulkar profile from RNS. They have made a good number of bats for the little master in recent years so hoping for a cracker of a bat. Long handle, slightly shorter blade and 2.12...
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Looking forward to seeing that.
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Me too! Can't wait!!
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It's here! At last!!!
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Hang on a sec, it's not just about the pick-up. Pete got his hands on an Icon that weighed a little over three pounds that was allegedly one used by Ravi Bop.
The pick-up on this bat was stunning. There was no way on earth it felt like a 3lb+ bat. Stunning. And then we all came to use it. And behold the curse of the three pounder struck. All of us were used to something between about 2lb 10oz and 2lb 12oz. All of us were late with our shots, slow aligning the bat with the ball, etc, to such an extent that you could see the delay as we were facing the bowling machine.
That's not to say that we couldn't relearn our muscles to cope with a heavier bat, or build up strength to do it. Simply that in order to make such a significant jump in weight, there was a clear impact to it.
So while lightweight pick-up on a heavier bat is important, it isn't just that that affects the way you play, as you still have to be able to time and propel the bat in a fashion that means you aren't getting bowled/edges/are sticll scoring runs, and that adjustment may take a lot longer.
I think that's the problem. While pick up may be great (and we all love it - ish) 3 lb is still 3 lb once it's up there.
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Pics?
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Coming soon mate! Kinda tired now. Been a long day. If not today then tomorrow...
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Sorry for the noob question, but what is the best way to go about uploading images? I tried attaching pics(limit of 4) and turns out they are too big...
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http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=7712.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=7712.0)
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Aaah! Nosepalm! I did search but for 'uploading images' and nothing popped up! Thanks a ton Tim!
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Here we go -
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=24244.new#new (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=24244.new#new)