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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: vividgreen on May 14, 2013, 10:46:49 AM
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Hi all,
saw this interesting video on Dale Steyn and his ominous record..... enjoy.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/video_audio/635642.html?genre=53 (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/video_audio/635642.html?genre=53)
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Just adding to this - another cheap 5 for for Steyn today, this time in Sri Lanka
We really are lucky to be able to watch him play!
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Obviously there hasn't been much coverage on the forum on this match. Nice to see Duminy get a hundred, bats like Hussey with the tail
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Dale Steyn was near unplayable today.
Unfortunately he re-injured his bowling hand and was unable to bowl with the second new ball.
It's uncertain whether he can bowl in the second innings.
This 5 wicket bag was Steyn's fifth in Asia.
2 in SL, 2 in IND and 1 in PAK
He's a master.
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It's a shame that SA have been caught ball tampering again on the subcontinent.
Second time philinder's done it, yet only a 75% match fee fine. No wonder he continues
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He really is on another planet. Any other fast bowler would be struggling on the Sri Lankan flat tracks and complaining about the conditions, but he just goes out there, bowls and shreds batting line ups. Really is one of my favourite sportsperson-as long as there's a ball in his hand he'll take wickets.
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Dale Steyn backed up his 5/54 with 4/45 in the second innings.
9/99 match figures are the best ever by a fast bowler at Galle.
Freakishly great.
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Yeah good stuff in second innings considering there was no ball tampering involved .. or they were clever enough not to get caught this time.
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cant really imagine that the ball tampering was that bad? No bottle tops? - is there a video, or report about it anywhere?
Cheer
Ross
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Ball tampering is ball tampering.. there is no two ways about it , current 75% match fee fine is a joke considering Anderson and Jadeja going to get match bans for a spat outside the ground , ball tampering effects the match conditions so it should be match bans.
or just legalise ball tampering so everyone has a level field to play with.
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Scratching the ball with his finger and thumb. Didn't contest and took the 75% fine.
http://m.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/south-africas-vernon-philander-fined-for-tampering-20140719-zur03.html (http://m.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/south-africas-vernon-philander-fined-for-tampering-20140719-zur03.html)
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storm in the teacup, anyone?
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storm in the teacup, anyone?
I'm very disappointed in Philander
We've won pretty much everywhere without tampering with the ball so why do it now?
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I'm very disappointed in Philander
We've won pretty much everywhere without tampering with the ball so why do it now?
Or they've just not been caught up to now...
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Or they've just not been caught up to now...
We will have to take notes from England then.... ???
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Dale steyns stats versus de villiers in the ipl are attrotious......
Glorified clubbie.
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We will have to take notes from England then.... ???
Turn up, bowl too short, give away about 120 too many, have a batting collapse in reply, repeat! :D
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We will have to take notes from England then.... ???
Nothing like England getting the ball reversing after 30 overs as they did at trent bridge ;)
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SA asked producers to hide visuals to protect team image
Sri Lanka Cricket was able to ensure that the television footage of Vernon Philander's ball-tampering was aired 48 hours after the incident took place. In the interim period, it has been established that the Ten Sports producers were under pressure by the South African team not to have the footage shown in their broadcast. CSA have declined to comment on the incident.
In the TV footage that finally appeared during the closing stages of the Galle Test, Philander was seen scratching the ball with his fingers and thumb in the afternoon session of the third day. Philander dug his nails into the rough side of the ball at least twice and was also seen covering the ball with one hand while picking at it with the other. At the time of the incident, the pictures were only viewed by the Ten Sports production team and match officials.
Ten Sports showed the pictures on day five at the end of the 69th over, shortly after the second session drinks break - within 20 minutes of an SLC official visiting the production team at the ground and making it clear they wanted the pictures broadcast. It followed almost two days of pressure by CSA and the South Africa team management on the TV producers to not air the footage as it could "create a negative image" of their team.
When the television cameras had picked up images of Philander picking on the ball, they did not air the footage but alerted the ICC match referee Jeff Crowe, who viewed the footage at tea time. No message was sent to the on-field officials until the incident was reviewed after the day's play. Philander was then charged, pleaded guilty and was fined but the pictures were not shown at all. A source in the know of the incident said, "CSA big-wigs made it clear they would not be happy if we showed the incident."
Not broadcasting the pictures at the time of the incident also prevented the third umpire from viewing the footage, and precluded the possibility the third umpire would interrupt play as soon as evidence of ball-tampering emerged. As it transpired, South Africa used the ball Philander had tampered with till late in the evening session. Sri Lanka captain Angelo Mathews said after the match that the ball had reverse-swung more on the third evening, than at a comparable stage of the innings on day five.
Crowe was the only match official aware of the tampering before the close of play, but he is not allowed to present the footage he viewed to the umpires, while play is ongoing. All five match officials viewed the footage after stumps on day three, at which point the umpires laid the charge against Philander.
SLC may have acted sooner, but were unaware of the pressure being placed by CSA until Sunday. When officials from the home side heard of the directive sent out to the producers, they insisted that Ten Sports show the footage and the producers had no choice but to relent. Ten Sports are broadcasting this series under SLC's purview, as part of the $60 million deal the broadcast company had signed with the board, for coverage up to 2020.
This is not the first skirmish between CSA and Ten Sports, which owns rights to broadcast South African cricket outside of South Africa on a basis of a R1.5 billion (US$150 million) contract. Ten Sports also held the rights for Pakistan cricket during South Africa's tour of the UAE last October-November when Faf du Plessis was caught on camera rubbing the ball near the zipper on his trouser pocket. The television umpire alerted the on-field officials who awarded five penalty runs to Pakistan and changed the ball. Du Plessis was later fined 50% of his match fee after pleading guilty to ball tampering.
At the time, CSA responded furiously at Ten Sports' coverage, one insider saying, "They (CSA) told us they would take away our rights and threatened to deny us player interviews in the future," an insider said.
Sri Lanka have not made any other big noises about the ball-tampering incident except to say they would like to see the umpires take stronger action. "It's unfortunate when someone tampers with the ball. If they tamper with the ball, they get the better of it. I think the umpires need to make sure it doesn't happen again," Mathews said.
Asked if he felt his side was cheated, Mathews was careful. "It's not within the laws. You can't tamper with the ball. It's the umpires' decision and they need to make sure it doesn't happen again." He also noted there was more reverse swing on the third afternoon than there was on the final day.
South Africa have tried to play down the incident. Dale Steyn's first answer to whether the ball-tampering fine blighted the victory was, "I don't really think about that," and he followed it up with, "I think tomorrow morning in the papers it will say that we won this game regardless, so I don't know what to say about that," he said.
www.espncricinfo.com/sri-lanka-v-south-africa-2014/content/current/story/762471.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/sri-lanka-v-south-africa-2014/content/current/story/762471.html)
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Disgusting from CSA, never thought they will stoop to the levels of BCCI and try to bully others.
So Faf/Philander and co scratches the ball, CSA covers it up and Steyn gets wickets..
Yeah Freakishly great stuff.
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How many wickets did he take during the latter part of that third day's play? ???
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9 fell during the day.
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So are Steynes wickets tainted? They have a pretty poor record for fiddling with the ball.
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So are Steynes wickets tainted? They have a pretty poor record for fiddling with the ball.
Taking a quick look at the Cricinfo commentary, two of the wickets were before lunch, the other three after. Two of those were wafting at wide ones and the only one that mentions anything to do with prodigious reverse swing is the last.
So in answer to the question, looks like only one has been put down to the reverse swing, although, the lack of ability to score runs due to inordinate reverse swing is an equally good reason for getting wafted wickets...
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It would be a shame because is a terrific bowler, I think he would still be as good without Fafs zipper, philanders finger nails or even the amount rubbing done in the keepers gloves.
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At the end of the day, Philander's reputation will come off worse and SA will be watched a lot from now on.
Can anyone remember who was bowling when Atherton did it? I can't and will have to look it up.
It will blow over in a few months, unless they get caught again.
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Was it cork or white?
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400 test wickets for Steyn today. what a player. Faster than Hadlee and Mcgrath. Says it all.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/video_audio/904647.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/video_audio/904647.html)
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Dale Steyn the best bowler of his generation. He's a bowler that would've succeeded in any era. His average, strike rate and wickets per match ratio is staggering on these modern day pancake pitches.
And as Allan Donald said yesterday Steyn not done yet, he's eyeing up 500 poles. And who's to bet again him?
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Dale Steyn the best bowler of his generation. He's a bowler that would've succeeded in any era. His average, strike rate and wickets per match ratio is staggering on these modern day pancake pitches.
And as Allan Donald said yesterday Steyn not done yet, he's eyeing up 500 poles. And who's to bet again him?
I'll chuck a sly tenner that he won't. Body will give up and he will play T20 to finish of an amazing career.
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I'll chuck a sly tenner that he won't. Body will give up and he will play T20 to finish of an amazing career.
He doesn't play international T20 anymore. He said he will on play selected ODI series as well. South Africa seldom play more than 8 Tests per year.
It's a question of whether he goes on an absolute tear and snares 50-60 poles in the next 8 Tests.
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A couple more unbelievable statistics for Dale Steyn's 400 Test wickets.
Steyn bowled 16654 deliveries for his 400 wickets, some 3600 fewer then previous record holder Sir Richard Hadlee.
Steyn's strike rate of 41.5 is also a new record, again surpassing Hadlee who held the record with a strike rate of 50.8.
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Surely that's the same stat twice?
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If Finn can become a mainstay of this team, where do you reckon he'll rate? Strike rate 48.3 is pretty good going.
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400 test wickets for Steyn today. what a player. Faster than Hadlee and Mcgrath. Says it all.
[url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/video_audio/904647.html[/url] ([url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/video_audio/904647.html[/url])
Hadlee and McGrath? Hardly the benchmark for fast bowlers.
Oh. You were being ironic, weren't you Buzz. Naughty you.
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Nope not many bowlers have made it to 400. He is the fastest quick to make it.
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If Finn can become a mainstay of this team, where do you reckon he'll rate? Strike rate 48.3 is pretty good going.
Let's see Finn bowl on subcontinental pitches and see what his strike rate is.
Steyn has a freakish record on the subcontinent, something like 90 poles at 22 and strike rate is 39.7. No wonder South Africa can get away with playing average spinners
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Let's see Finn bowl on subcontinental pitches and see what his strike rate is.
Steyn has a freakish record on the subcontinent, something like 90 poles at 22 and strike rate is 39.7. No wonder South Africa can get away with playing average spinners
He may have 400 wickets and potentially be the best ever quick but have you seen his acting in "Blended"?
So so very very bad, and he was playing himself!!!!
For those who don't know what Blended is, it's a Sandler / Barrymore (Drew, not Michael) chick flick rom-com type thing that isn't really worth losing two hours for.
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He may have 400 wickets and potentially be the best ever quick but have you seen his acting in "Blended"?
So so very very bad, and he was playing himself!!!!
For those who don't know what Blended is, it's a Sandler / Barrymore (Drew, not Michael) chick flick rom-com type thing that isn't really worth losing two hours for.
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His new hairstyle would certainly fit in at Hollywood...