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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: fasteddie on June 05, 2013, 03:21:52 PM
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.....a bat designed and pitched at purely performance.
It would be a G2 bat.
Probably a second bat for some but main bat for club/jazz cricketers.
I'm intrigued.....
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.....a bat designed and pitched at purely performance.
It would be a G2 bat.
Probably a second bat for some but main bat for club/jazz cricketers.
I'm intrigued.....
If you're buying it from Laver and Wood you'd pay £249. I wouldn't pay that for a G2 or 3 bat though. I have one from B3 that I paid £165 for and frankly the people who have used it have decided it is one big middle. It's probably G3, and frankly, it goes, so I guess £165 I'd say is reasonable.
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If you're buying it from Laver and Wood you'd pay £249. I wouldn't pay that for a G2 or 3 bat though. I have one from B3 that I paid £165 for and frankly the people who have used it have decided it is one big middle. It's probably G3, and frankly, it goes, so I guess £165 I'd say is reasonable.
I feel this is accurate
£150-165 on current market rates.
If priced too high i'd be tempted to splash out an extra £20/30 quid and get a sponsor higher grade bat
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I wouldn't.
Too many 'low grade but top performance' bats from brands, for me it's used as a marketing tactic to flog otherwise tricky to sell low grade clefts. Where's all the low grade but poor performance go?
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I was thinking along the lines of £165 for a G2 bat, which has been selected for it's performance.
I'm not looking at brands right now, just the price point for that type of product.
Would you have such a bat as a #2 or if you are a lower order batter have it as a #1?
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I wouldn't.
Too many 'low grade but top performance' bats from brands, for me it's used as a marketing tactic to flog otherwise tricky to sell low grade clefts. Where's all the low grade but poor performance go?
Good point.
I agree that brands use the 'performance' ticket to sell lower grade bats. A batmaker has recently confirmed this to me.
I'm looking at the principle of the bat, not the brand for this question, but you are correct in your statement.
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I have got 3 bats, and havnt paid over 200 for any of them, 2 of them were sub 100, and they perform as better than any bats I have owned. The MIDS from procricket, on initial impressions is one massive middle, and i got it for 70, I have an M&H which is stunning for 99.99 and an aldred supreme which is also stunning for 200. My point is this, I would not specifically look to buy a lower grade bat that performs well, however, the MIDS i have looks frankly g3/4 but was used by a pro, and is immense (upon initial impressions), the M&H again, looks about G3, but performs exceptionally, the Aldred looks amazing and the performance matches. I feel that if you look around you can find good performing ugly bats, for dirt cheap prices, but I wouldnt look to pay over 100 for it
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There is no such thing as a grade 2 bat with good performance. They are all flogged as grade 1s
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There is no such thing as a grade 2 bat with good performance. They are all flogged as grade 1s
I have a grade 2 Salix select which is as good a performing bat as most other grade one bats I own. Grade 2/3 bats can and often perform as well as grade 1, pro grade what ever you want to call it. Grade one is based on looks of the bat and its cosmetic appearance. My view any way.
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Go to Steve Msr pick through the thousands of bats he has good fun too.
some of his 40 quid bats are very good
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Anywhere from 100-130 gbp
KG grade 2 has been great for around 100 gbp
Aldred gold at 125 has been awesome
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I'd have to agree with most comments on here in spite of my earlier post. There really isn't such thing as a performance grade 2 bat. My B3 is lower grade willow that is made to a great spec and pressed perfectly so it performs really well. It wasn't sold as performance, it's just a well made bat...
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I'd have to agree with most comments on here in spite of my earlier post. There really isn't such thing as a performance grade 2 bat. My B3 is lower grade willow that is made to a great spec and pressed perfectly so it performs really well. It wasn't sold as performance, it's just a well made bat...
I am talking about bats which are G2 willow and perform really well, as such are sold on performance and not svelt grains.
I think people are misunderstanding the context of performance. It seems people have been sold 'performance' and not given it.
I'm talking about a G2 bat which performs very well indeed and as such is sold on performance NOT some bland sales bs. It actually go's!
Newbery sell their 5 star, which is G2, at around the £150-160 mark.
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g4 g3 g2 g1 its all about looks not performance.
any bit of wood goes through the press
u can get rubish g1's or amazing g4's
grains and everything is nothing to do with it. its just how the wood is pressed.
me and ryan had had 3-4 clefts from matt h4l that are g3's and they are all cannons
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Simmy, I agree which is exactly why I asked the question.
"How much would you pay for a G2 bat which performs as well as a G1 and G3".
"A bloke walks into a cricket shop, picks-up a G2 which pings like a G1" How much does he think he will have to pay?
"A cricket shop owner visits a distribution warehouse, picks out a batch of G2 bats which all ping and have been 'hand selected' How much will his customers pay?
I used the word 'performance' in that context. I think people misunderstood it.
The answer is a £number.
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Simmy, I agree which is exactly why I asked the question.
"How much would you pay for a G2 bat which performs as well as a G1 and G3".
"A bloke walks into a cricket shop, picks-up a G2 which pings like a G1" How much does he think he will have to pay?
"A cricket shop owner visits a distribution warehouse, picks out a batch of G2 bats which all ping and have been 'hand selected' How much will his customers pay?
I used the word 'performance' in that context. I think people misunderstood it.
The answer is a £number.
G2 should be priced as a grade 2. There would be no such thing as a bargain if this was not the case
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And my answer states mate i can hand pick a bat from Msr like i did the other day for 40 quid and looks wise i guess it looks better than a few grade 1 i can give examples if required on here and so far it has helped score 130 runs in 3 innings...
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=24755.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=24755.0)
So why would anybody look elsewhere unless your a hoarder or a label man the 40 quider Steve offers are fine no wonder a couple of county players go there and just pick a few
The number of bats that have gone through my hands in the last 3 years i think 1 in 10 bats are special the rest are just average (cheers for the quote you know who you are).
Sometimes it refreshing using a bat you have no clue of it history...
G2 bat cleft price what the difference 6 pound or something is it that much harder to make it..
So the true answer is what are you willing to pay.....
The le and players normally just have slightly straighter less blemish grain thats all smoke and fire
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I am talking about bats which are G2 willow and perform really well, as such are sold on performance and not svelt grains.
I think people are misunderstanding the context of performance. It seems people have been sold 'performance' and not given it.
I'm talking about a G2 bat which performs very well indeed and as such is sold on performance NOT some bland sales bs. It actually go's!
Newbery sell their 5 star, which is G2, at around the £150-160 mark.
But I think the counter to that is that you can't know that a G2 bat will perform to an extreme ping level when it has just been finished. It's a G2 bat and should be sold as such. If, during your process of making the bat, you have produced an above average one, then great, make sure you replicate that process. But I don't think you can sell something that hasn't been knocked in yet as a performance bat.
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But I think the counter to that is that you can't know that a G2 bat will perform to an extreme ping level when it has just been finished. It's a G2 bat and should be sold as such. If, during your process of making the bat, you have produced an above average one, then great, make sure you replicate that process. But I don't think you can sell something that hasn't been knocked in yet as a performance bat.
Surely you can say that of any bay, regardless of grade.
I saw a whole bunch of Newbery 5 star bats at IJC recently. They all tapped-up as well as higher grades.
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Aren't we all of the opinion, that g2 bats can ping and perform just as well as g1 bats? Surely if you're selling a g2 bat with good performance then its exactly the same as any-one else. Every manufacturer will try to get the best performance out of all their wood, regardless of looks
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but how much would you pay for a G2 which, in the shop, pings very nicely?
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140-160, although my Bulldog only cost me 160, so I would never buy a bat from a shop again!
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but how much would you pay for a G2 which, in the shop, pings very nicely?
I wouldn't pay more than the price of a standard G2 bat from the manufacturer for one that appears to perform better than average.
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I wouldn't pay more than the price of a standard G2 bat from the manufacturer for one that appears to perform better than average.
Why would anyone?
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£160 seems about right for a good G2 bat.
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£160 seems about right for a good G2 bat.
Then you have your answer!
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Now where talking about knowing a bats performance purely on tapping up initially load of crock
Newbery are good at it because they have a special finish press I would bet my bottom doller on it tap most tk made bats they initially sound mainly better than most.
Back on topic it goes back to picked on perfomance blag many use how he hell is it possible I have had bats tap up great and play like kippers till I gave them there proper final press is me knocking it in.
Bats at all stages are as varied as forum members.
The new market in the real cricket world seems to be 200 sealing for new bats and prices rangeing downwards.
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300 ish if handmade in england and a top bit of timber
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250-300 Australian $$$. Dont see the point paying for much more then that. My current bat cost me $180 aud And is a cracker of a bat.