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Forum News and Suggestions => Forum Announcements => Suggestions => Topic started by: Howzat on July 19, 2013, 10:33:42 AM
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This Trident Sports guy has made 1 post on the forum and the topic gets instantly locked up and he's asked to be become a sponsor!? The forum would be rubbish if there were no brands on it that we can talk to.
I could understand if he had made a few posts solely related to selling his stuff, but he's made one post introducing himself!
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=25738.0;topicseen (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=25738.0;topicseen)
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Unless there is more reasoning to shutting it down it does seem slightly harsh as long as he isn't trying to sell his equipment without becoming a sponsor.
Can't see him taking to the forum very well if his first ever post is locked because he's not coughed up the money straight away!
Ill say it again though, there might be more to it that the mods have seen.
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Not sure why the topic was locked up but I'm sure that there was a reason for it.
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I'm all for new companies on the forum and opening our eyes to new products but free advertising on the very first post probably isn't the best way to start
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got to say that didn;t even seem like advertising, just a newbie introducing himself!
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I can see why, as sponsors pay for the privilege to express their brand, but then there is the bat makers shed not sure how that works fee wise.
But then I do understand the general user, if I say posted about the company im sure it wouldn't be locked. There was no promotions, just I am here have a nice day.
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If he had of introduced himself only then I would agree.
But when his first post is, "this is me, and this is my company" I tend to think that he was fishing!
I was quite happy to welcome him and hint at the sponsorship route, but if someone wanted to lock the topic, then I wouldn't disapprove!
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just to be clear, I locked the thread.
Trident had introduced themselves, might have been a bit harsh. but what else was needed?
threads can always be unlocked!
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But thanks for your input Leo....as appreciated as always!
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In fairness its his first post , how would he know the sponsors rules about subscription?
Its all about engaging the new members and getting them involved so lets be a bit more welcoming. Any serious brand wont have an isssue with the monthly contribution, why not let him have a break for a day?
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Was that aimed at me PM7?
I feel I did welcome him to the forum! I also gently pointed him to the Sponsorship route.
Could you let me know if there is something further I should have done?
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Not at all Pete, you welcomed him well.
Just felt it would have been nice to have a few more posts from the newbie before it got locked.
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It's been handled the right way. The admin team need to protect the sponsors as much as the members! It is clearly a fishing attempt! I happen to think that a lot of people are given slack with their brands, but there's right ways to do it.
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Fair enough PM7 - point taken.
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Not at all Pete, you welcomed him well.
Just felt it would have been nice to have a few more posts from the newbie before it got locked.
I agree, I think current sponsors can't be too unhappy with any perspective new sponsors being allowed 10 posts or so before they are asked to stump up, so long as their not actively pushing sales in that time.
The more sponsors the forum gets the better, and being asked to pay up before they have a real feel for the place might drive a few away.
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Lets not forget he hasn't been stopped from posting
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I disagree kulli I have been approached by so many small brands under the guise of pm's I think the action taken by the admin is correct
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I disagree kulli I have been approached by so many small brands under the guise of pm's I think the action taken by the admin is correct
In that case just report them, as that's now against the rules :)
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In that case just report them, as that's now against the rules :)
There so much going on behind closesd door on this forum I like the tactic taken to being it back online
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There so much going on behind closesd door on this forum I like the tactic taken to being it back online
I don't feel that strongly about it tbh, just think the more sponsors and knowledgeable people on here the better. It's been a while since I feel like I got much real insight on anything on here.
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To summarise, the nice guy introduced himself and his company. He was welcomed and gently introduced to the sponsorship route, so that he would know not to start trading like ebay straight away!
Another Admin saw fit to lock the topic as we have seen this happen many times before! And quite frankly, with the issue recently you can't blame Admin for having a 'better safe than sorry' attitude, no matter how harsh you think it is.
The guy is not banned and is still more than welcome to join in the forum and if he would like to trade, he is welcome to look into becoming a sponsor as well!
We try as much as we can to protect the forum and it's members - and hope that members realise this.
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I don't feel that strongly about it tbh, just think the more sponsors and knowledgeable people on here the better. It's been a while since I feel like I got much real insight on anything on here.
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I agree I had a good talk today about new drying techniques being used and handle technology mate all very good.
Also talked to him ref real grade 1 willow
Seems like this forum is either full over overhyped grade 2 and 3 or we have the entire supply of grade 1 willow
Apparently there a massive shortage
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Its a shame we dont get more input, sharing and information from the forum sponsors about what they do. We are all here for the love of the equipment and the game and we are curious buggers. I like the fact that Paul Aldred enjoys sharing insights into what he does and behind the scenes.
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Carlos from Trident is a nice bloke, popular brand in Barbados
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I can see why, as sponsors pay for the privilege to express their brand, but then there is the bat makers shed not sure how that works fee wise.
But then I do understand the general user, if I say posted about the company im sure it wouldn't be locked. There was no promotions, just I am here have a nice day.
The batmakers shed is a round about way of the admin letting their mates advertise for free
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Its a shame we dont get more input, sharing and information from the forum sponsors about what they do. We are all here for the love of the equipment and the game and we are curious buggers. I like the fact that Paul Aldred enjoys sharing insights into what he does and behind the scenes.
Yup, I love learning more. Wasn't really sure if I'd just been here too long and knew it all - like some members ;) - or that the current sponsors just didn't share much info.
Whatever your opinion of them Tomgoose and SAF Andy were great to have posting regularly.
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The batmakers shed is a round about way of the admin letting their mates advertise for free
and you have proof of what you say?
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The batmakers shed is a round about way of the admin letting their mates advertise for free
and you have proof of what you say?
1 - Is there a cost to be in there?
2 - Is there any restriction on who could put information in there?
If the answers are "NO and NO", "YES and NO" or "YES and YES" then it is fine. If it is "NO and YES" then it would deem to be unfair without knowing the restrictions.
Personally, I like it. I think it really helps the little people get exposure and show their skills. These (Ryan, Dom etc.) are also the ones who post the most about bat making and techniques so they benefit the forum greatly.
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1 - Is there a cost to be in there?
2 - Is there any restriction on who could put information in there?
If the answers are "NO and NO", "YES and NO" or "YES and YES" then it is fine. If it is "NO and YES" then it would deem to be unfair without knowing the restrictions.
Personally, I like it. I think it really helps the little people get exposure and show their skills. These (Ryan, Dom etc.) are also the ones who post the most about bat making and techniques so they benefit the forum greatly.
It's YES - there is a cost and YES it's has to be an aspiring batmaker - not a full time business as such, though I suppose it doesn't have to be batmaking.
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The batmakers shed is a round about way of the admin letting their mates advertise for free
Sorry mate, but that is absolute rubbish.
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If he wants to get forum sponsorship then he would want to be applying now so that he can get it some time next year!!!
Seems like the forum does not want new sponsors
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Carlos from Trident is a nice bloke, popular brand in Barbados
I am sure that he is a decent fella. But at the moment, the only people who have given him a character reference are you (someone who is being moderated and is throwing crazy accusations at other batmakers) and I also got a lovely character reference from James Lekka via email...and I will let other forum members make their own minds up about how much they would take that as a reference.
Personally speaking, I am sure he is a decent bloke and would be a true asset to the forum. But we need to be consistent if we can!
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I am sure that he is a decent fella. But at the moment, the only people who have given him a character reference are you (someone who is being moderated and is throwing crazy accusations at other batmakers) and I also got a lovely character reference from James Lekka via email...and I will let other forum members make their own minds up about how much they would take that as a reference.
Personally speaking, I am sure he is a decent bloke and would be a true asset to the forum. But we need to be consistent if we can!
How has James from Lekka heard about the post. Surely he doesn't have access to this site anymore.
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He's not on the banned list.
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Right lets clear a few things up...
1. there is a fee associated to being in the batmakers shed it is £5 per bat sold on the forum payable to the forum up to £15 a month.
2. Trident are warmly welcomed onto the forum, I am pretty sure, but not certain they have applied for sponsorship but there is a delay in that as the forum owner has been/is on holiday.
finally - perhaps this thread could have been phrased:
Please re-open the Trident thread, we want to know more.
rather than what happened.
In the same way, other brands have done so, and where brands are transparent about their use of the forum. I use Redback cricket and Afinity cricket as examples of people who understand the limits of being a brand on here, but not a sponsor.
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He was banned wasn't he? Not sure if it was permanent though!
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He'll never be allowed back, put it that way