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Companies => Off-the-shelf companies => Gray Nicolls => Topic started by: AlRidd on August 14, 2013, 09:23:39 AM

Title: My E41 Scoop
Post by: AlRidd on August 14, 2013, 09:23:39 AM
Took delivery of this yesterday, weighs in at only 2lb 8 and taps up unbelievably well!

Enjoy the photos.

(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc106/bobsmith007/Cornwall-20130814-00028.jpg) (http://s214.photobucket.com/user/bobsmith007/media/Cornwall-20130814-00028.jpg.html)
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc106/bobsmith007/Cornwall-20130814-00029.jpg) (http://s214.photobucket.com/user/bobsmith007/media/Cornwall-20130814-00029.jpg.html)
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc106/bobsmith007/Cornwall-20130814-00030.jpg) (http://s214.photobucket.com/user/bobsmith007/media/Cornwall-20130814-00030.jpg.html)
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc106/bobsmith007/Cornwall-20130814-00031.jpg) (http://s214.photobucket.com/user/bobsmith007/media/Cornwall-20130814-00031.jpg.html)
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc106/bobsmith007/Cornwall-20130814-00034.jpg) (http://s214.photobucket.com/user/bobsmith007/media/Cornwall-20130814-00034.jpg.html)
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc106/bobsmith007/Cornwall-20130814-00035.jpg) (http://s214.photobucket.com/user/bobsmith007/media/Cornwall-20130814-00035.jpg.html)
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc106/bobsmith007/e793580e-3675-45ab-a3c3-425a2da34f74.jpg) (http://s214.photobucket.com/user/bobsmith007/media/e793580e-3675-45ab-a3c3-425a2da34f74.jpg.html)
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: cricketbadger on August 14, 2013, 09:35:20 AM
some grains on that beast
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Post by: uknsaunders on August 14, 2013, 09:44:41 AM
can we see some better pics of the scooping on the back please.
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: AlRidd on August 14, 2013, 09:49:54 AM
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc106/bobsmith007/Cornwall-20130814-00033.jpg) (http://s214.photobucket.com/user/bobsmith007/media/Cornwall-20130814-00033.jpg.html)
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc106/bobsmith007/Cornwall-20130814-00032.jpg) (http://s214.photobucket.com/user/bobsmith007/media/Cornwall-20130814-00032.jpg.html)
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: Butterfingerz on August 14, 2013, 10:13:28 AM
Looks like the old MegaDrive
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: charliemott on August 14, 2013, 12:10:57 PM
Looks incredible, the edges look huuuuuge, that may just be down to the bow though?
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Post by: sgcricket on August 14, 2013, 12:59:22 PM
edges look big. and those grains are beautiful
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Post by: SOULMAN1012 on August 14, 2013, 02:09:29 PM
Looks very nice mate, is it brand new or used mate?
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Post by: i12breakfree on August 14, 2013, 02:20:28 PM
looks really nice
does look well oiled and ready to go
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Post by: tim2000s on August 14, 2013, 04:21:39 PM
Where did you get it?
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Post by: Leddster138 on August 15, 2013, 02:36:52 PM
It looks really dark, is it used? Looks lovely.
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: AlRidd on August 15, 2013, 05:57:13 PM
Only been used once in nets. Had it shipped over from Aus.
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: Kaz092 on August 15, 2013, 07:06:53 PM
Looks like a nice stick that fella

Grains look lush

Hope it goes well for ya

Definitely something sabre/mega drive about it
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: The Palmist on August 15, 2013, 07:12:31 PM
What do two scoops do to the aero-dynamics of this bat? Is there a scientific reason behind them or they just for show?
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: tim2000s on August 15, 2013, 07:26:27 PM
What do two scoops do to the aero-dynamics of this bat? Is there a scientific reason behind them or they just for show?
What are you talking about. At the speeds you use a bat they don't come into it. They are a way of reducing weight, like the dynadrive.
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: Chad on August 15, 2013, 07:33:55 PM
What do two scoops do to the aero-dynamics of this bat? Is there a scientific reason behind them or they just for show?

Scientific reason is to get weight off the bat from areas where you're not expected to hit the ball to often, so you get as much meat behind the middle (and edges in this case) that you can at a light weight.
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: The Palmist on August 15, 2013, 08:24:01 PM
What are you talking about. At the speeds you use a bat they don't come into it. They are a way of reducing weight, like the dynadrive.

I am sure aero-dynamics and Physics has a play here, however small. It is not just bat speed but the velocity of wind blowing on a given day as well which may have a say how well the bat is balanced. With more surface on the back you are shifting more air [which means more weight] with every swing. I am sure GN have thought about it and have carved a shape to find an optimum.

In other words...more backward drag with every swing.
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: Kulli on August 15, 2013, 08:34:45 PM
I am sure aero-dynamics and Physics has a play here, however small. It is not just bat speed but the velocity of wind blowing on a given day as well which may have a say how well the bat is balanced. With more surface on the back you are shifting more air [which means more weight] with every swing. I am sure GN have thought about it and have carved a shape to find an optimum.

In other words...more backward drag with every swing.
You must have a batspeed that would make Lara jealous!
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: The Palmist on August 15, 2013, 09:04:11 PM
You must have a batspeed that would make Lara jealous!

Like the wings of a hummingbird mate :-)
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: smilley792 on August 15, 2013, 09:05:46 PM
I'm pretty sure gn just keep trying different ways to remove weight and keep a balanced bat.


Scoop
Dynadrive
Xiphos
E41 scoop
Nemesis?

Not sure all, if any would effect aero.
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: tim2000s on August 15, 2013, 11:09:49 PM
Sorry palmist, but you are just wrong. The kind of velocities required to generate any additional drag from modifications due to scooping are well beyond the means of human strength. Aerodynamics plays almost no part in bat design.

If it did, large edges would absolutely not be the way you'd design a bat due to the creation of eddies and the drag these would impose. Forget about aerodynamics. Scoops are all about weight reduction.

You consider drag only in relation to the part of the shot played towards the ball. There is only the bat face that acts against the air. This is governed by the laws.
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: The Palmist on August 16, 2013, 08:25:13 AM
You consider drag only in relation to the part of the shot played towards the ball. There is only the bat face that acts against the air. This is governed by the laws.

I would like to see you play a cut shot or any late shot really without an initial back swing. Take a tennis racquet, and pretend to drive, then put that racquet inside a sleeve and do the same, now leave the racquet in sleeve and stick a conical sharp card board spine at the back and swing back and forth. You don't have to swing too hard to feel a difference, however minute.

Now as you said the bats may just be too heavy for human mind to register any difference but it doesn't mean it is not there.

Ahh Newton is squirming, twisiting, turning in his grave as we speak. :o

Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: The Palmist on August 16, 2013, 08:35:40 AM
Aerodynamics plays almost no part in bat design.


yes it does, may be just for namesake but it does  :). Proof below:

(http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss90/chancesilver/AeroDynamic.jpg) (http://s564.photobucket.com/user/chancesilver/media/AeroDynamic.jpg.html)
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: AlRidd on August 16, 2013, 09:43:34 PM
Crashed my car today and need to raise finances quickly! With an unbelievable amount of regret I'm considering selling this :(
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: Chad on August 16, 2013, 09:46:21 PM
Crashed my car today and need to raise finances quickly! With an unbelievable amount of regret I'm considering selling this :(

Makes two of us, except mine was done yesterday. :( Technically speaking though, he crashed into me...
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: Chad on August 16, 2013, 09:52:41 PM
I would like to see you play a cut shot or any late shot really without an initial back swing. Take a tennis racquet, and pretend to drive, then put that racquet inside a sleeve and do the same, now leave the racquet in sleeve and stick a conical sharp card board spine at the back and swing back and forth. You don't have to swing too hard to feel a difference, however minute.

Now as you said the bats may just be too heavy for human mind to register any difference but it doesn't mean it is not there.

Ahh Newton is squirming, twisiting, turning in his grave as we speak. :o

It's mostly weight distribution that would affect the pick up and back-swing of the bat, aerodynamics are very minute. If you compare the extra surface area created by the scoop, and compare it to the effect of taking weight out that area, (weight distribution) then it really doesn't make very much of a difference at all, unless you have a very strong wind which happens to be blowing downwards into the scoops while in your backlift. Could be wrong, but that's what I think.
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: procricket on August 16, 2013, 09:55:06 PM
i registering my interest now Al
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: The Palmist on August 17, 2013, 07:57:00 AM
Crashed my car today and need to raise finances quickly! With an unbelievable amount of regret I'm considering selling this :(
Sorry to hear it mate, hope you were not checking the forum while driving.
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: Warneymonster on January 13, 2015, 11:33:32 PM
Unlucky with the car mate, however I'm def interested in the bat


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Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: jwebber86 on January 13, 2015, 11:37:59 PM
Hope you are OK and the car isn't too serious. I would also be interested in the bat
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Post by: alee on January 14, 2015, 05:45:58 AM
Quite an interesting design as it has concave back with scoops
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Post by: Jenko on January 14, 2015, 05:47:29 AM
Isn't this post pretty old (August 2013!)

Would think it would of been moved on by now.
Title: Re: My E41 Scoop
Post by: rich041187 on January 14, 2015, 10:23:36 AM
Id have thought so!! If not...shotgun!! I even started a thread recently on the subject of getting my hands on one and AlRidd didn't mention its availability