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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: simonmay5 on September 26, 2013, 10:12:02 AM
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This the blade off the said bat (http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r659/Simonalfie5/image_zps9e589ad2.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/Simonalfie5/media/image_zps9e589ad2.jpg.html)
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grade three, but will probably fly
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Grade 2 or 3
Hard to say how it will play, but it does look nice mate.
What is it (just out of interest)?
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Grade 2?
Why is there a larger circle lower down on the blade? Wasn't a "special offer" sticker In a sports direct sale is it?
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All will be revealed later ;)
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2/3 because of the pin knots. Probably goes like a rocket
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All will be revealed later ;)
You tease!! There best be decent pics for keeping us waiting lol
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If this is your Ashes bat it ain't LE!
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I don't claim to know anything about grading wilow, but the grains are nice and straight and there's lots of them. Will the pin knots make that much difference.
I am going to stick my neck out and probably get shot for saying this but is this Grade 1, 2 at the minimum.
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surely its only a couple of small knows putting people off rating it higher?
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And the redwood
*opens can of worms
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A small couple of knots right on the middle, that's the sort of thing bats get graded for.
Grade 3 for me, Had one that looked similar and went like (No Swearing Please).
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If the heartwood and knots were not there, that would be one lush bat!
Grains look gorgeous!! But the heartwood aside, the knots drop the grade down!
Heartwood drops it down if you go by the grading guides too!
But I assume this is "graded on performance" and not on cosmetics?
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Tai has a Scat similar to this a few years back
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looks a lovely cleft to me and feel that it will play really well.. the small cosmetic blemish does not diminish the nice straight grains.
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Reminds me of an M&H for some reason.
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I don't claim to know anything about grading wilow, but the grains are nice and straight and there's lots of them. Will the pin knots make that much difference.
I am going to stick my neck out and probably get shot for saying this but is this Grade 1, 2 at the minimum.
the pin knots will make it feel firm in the driving area, lovely to play with but not perfect, id go grade 2 but will go like a tracer bullet out the middle !
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It's the back of a very old powerspot!
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Now for what you have all been waiting for (http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r659/Simonalfie5/image_zps6bbe2a99.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/Simonalfie5/media/image_zps6bbe2a99.jpg.html)
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Think people we're waiting for a bigger explanation,
Where's it from? Sports direct?
And the pic doesn't tell us how it plays?
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from Sports Direct?
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this kind of grading post frustrates me, sorry for being grumpy.
not a single person asked who pressed it and how does it pick up?
of you only buy a bat for its grade they you will waste a load of cash.
by the Wright's guide, that is a g3 bat.
that won't stop it being a good bat though.
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You're forgetting all CBf bats pick up like pencils and are pressed by TK pixies.
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given the amount of heartwood, that is a G3.
id take those looks any day of the week.
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To be honest it picks up ok a tad bottom heavy but it just shows what you can get for under 50 pounds it felt so wrong only giving silly money for it when I am use to paying hundreds off pounds out to be totally honest it plays just as well as a bat I payed 300 pounds for it just shows what you can get when you look hard enough
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Must say the forum is helping me learn a lot about something I have been playing to decent standard for years. Looked at the JS Wrights grading and understand about the heartwoord making it a grade 3.
It does look lovely and for the money you must be laughing.
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given the amount of heartwood, that is a G3.
id take those looks any day of the week.
But you only sell G1?
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Hard to grade the performace of a natural product from a photo.....
As per many bats on the forum I imagine it goes like a golf ball off a tennis racket. The ball will fly off quicker than a fat kid at a buffet etc etc
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Actually, isn't this bat Kashmir willow?
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Actually, isn't this bat Kashmir willow?
no it's not Kashmir willow it's the slazenger v100 icon entry level and it was a sports direct bargain it was interesting hearing what you guys had to say but this is the sort off bat that the money making grabbers on eBay would clean the slazenger stickers and then add some nice stickers off a different brand and then charge 200 pounds .but this is the sort off bat that guys should look to bye if on a budget as plays very well and sounds nice and will not snap after one go like the fake Kashmir willows bats on eBay will do
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Sports Direct website says Icon is Kashmir willow.
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Sports Direct website says Icon is Kashmir willow.
How reliable is Sports Direct? ;) I think the V100 Icon was a low grade of English Willow, at least that's what the pricing and the Google search would suggest. The 'Icon' bats in SD are from a different model. (V200 and V360)
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Strange to hear everyone's reactions to heartwood on here, and how it automatically means a lower grade. I know that a few of the England team really like heartwood and would always want it on their bats. Also, many of the sample bats on display at the Lord's show had heartwood because, I believe, the manufacturers really like the look of it too, and want to show those bats off ahead of others. Is it just on here that heartwood is unpopular? And why is it so unpopular??
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I really don't get it - people were raving about it last year! None the less I like it :)
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Hell fire agree with buzz how the hell does anybody know how it will play by looking at a picture seriously some people are taking this bat stuff a tad to far.
About 3 years ago heartwood bats only on custom bats forum where almost double in price because a certain con man stated test players used them so they must be the best and sold them with a few forum brands for a premium which was laughable.
I love all this great for a left handed or right with heartwood malony as well let's be honest with the standard most of us play it doesn't matter bar the coverage of a middle.
What next a cross grained bat plays better???
Truth is it should in looks not be graded very high and in terms of performance how the hell do I know depends on the users.
Oh and Paul the reason it not popular because the forum follows fads which pop up from time to time.
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There's also a lot more heartwood around than 'true' all sapwood G1 too. By law of average it would therefore mean pros/Test players bats would have it.
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I know this is a bit "out there", and some may call me crazy for my "World is round" theories but you could take the much-discussed bat down to the "nets" and get someone to bowl to you and actually try it out....? :D
Seriously, I learnt a long time and many thousands of dollars ago that there are plenty of gorgeous looking fence palings out there! You simply cannot judge by looks alone, as it may well have been over-pressed, under-pressed, too dry etc, etc, etc.
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The bat in the pic looks like Kashmir willow to me.
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It looks like a G3 bat
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There's also a lot more heartwood around than 'true' all sapwood G1 too. By law of average it would therefore mean pros/Test players bats would have it.
No, they actually like heartwood. But that does not mean it meets JS Wright's current guidelines as to what constitutes G1.
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The bat in the pic looks like Kashmir willow to me.
Can confirm it is not Kashmir it is English willow grade 3 due to heartwood and a few pin nots but taps up as good as some grade one bats
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The bat in the pic looks like Kashmir willow to me.
Looks nothing like Kashmir to me
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Isn't Slazenger owned by SD or the other way around? So wouldn't that make SD description is more reliable?
Even Slazenger store looks identical to Sports Direct.
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No, they actually like heartwood. But that does not mean it meets JS Wright's current guidelines as to what constitutes G1.
Are you brimble in disguise?
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Are you brimble in disguise?
Based on the comments on here both my M&H distinction mark 1 bats are grade 3.
Some real fruitcakes on here
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Based on the comments on here both my M&H distinction mark 1 bats are grade 3.
Quite possibly.
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If I was personally grading the bat as if it were in my own collection I think I'd have just about given it a G2.
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what grade is this ..... Grade 3?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q79/s720x720/1382090_683688131659159_1906986779_n.jpg)
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Are you brimble in disguise?
Not unless he's been on an intensive course in how to use apostrophes!
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I do beleive though even Wrights are seeing less and less real grade 1 and there harder to come by..
But then again what is a grade if a bat feels right it feels right no matter what grade
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what grade is this ..... Grade 3?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q79/s720x720/1382090_683688131659159_1906986779_n.jpg)
Grade one some might say 2 but all sapwood and just a little pin knot nice bat :)
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Depends on what a grade one is there no industry defined grade bar wrights grading but then people re grade so who knows.
Im more bothered about weight in cleft then grains on a bat
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Depends on what a grade one is there no industry defined grade bar wrights grading but then people re grade so who knows.
Im more bothered about weight in cleft then grains on a bat
its very true it's all about the pick up and feel very hard to choose a bat if you not picked it up or taped it with a mallet I know a bat maker who grades on performance I seen him not sell 15 grain bats as it does not preform the way he wants and expects from his brand and if it's not pressed right he will not sell that bat
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industry defined grade
Wonder if something like that could ever be set up. Just a few of the large willow suppliers joining up in a little group to define grades and grading , and then some sort of way of identifying bats graded by this group.
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Not a chance the grades are fragmentated so people can profit
Makes me laugh all the performance cleft naming as well surely if your selling bats you would want them all performing after a decent press
But all this is old ground sellers brands will sell what they think and people will but accordingly
Most are more bothered about stickers anyway.
My plan is good pick up manageable weight good rebound after a few nets they go to you got a good bat
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If it were that easy Dave, you wouldn't have spent so long looking for 'the one' to follow your PB...
surely?
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My ones have always been there I jus. Liked buying them mate but have been picky with weight and pick up for always have but never bothered about looks or grade.
Mind currently got a international top orders batsman reject and the 1st ever production bat by a innovating brand oh and a pintu inbound.
No my bat education has taken me down some badger places and after quite a few I settled now oh hold on what this unbranded beast coming my way via pintu.
Thing is you can only use one at a time took me a while to understand that bit
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My ones have always been there I jus. Liked buying them mate but have been picky with weight and pick up for always have but never bothered about looks or grade.
Mind currently got a international top orders batsman reject and the 1st ever production bat by a innovating brand oh and a pintu inbound.
No my bat education has taken me down some badger places and after quite a few I settled now oh hold on what this unbranded beast coming my way via pintu.
Thing is you can only use one at a time took me a while to understand that bit
Oh no even Dave has bought into the "this bat was meant for an international player". Come in spinnerrrrrr
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Not bought into nothing mate my was in a batch of 7 he took 5
But hey you believe what you like bat has served me well this season but I guess you don't know the full story.
If you ever felt it in your hands you would know it was special and different than most bats some on here have
But then again it is crown willow and people who have crown willow will know what I'm saying.
Even had the players initials on it and I see so many have now gone for the same 1271 profile so I guess a lot of people like it.
And the truth is it not about the grains it about the sheer size for the weight.
Oh and a few others on the forum know about my bat as well but in truth it is a lovely blade do you want me to bore you more about the bat
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Oh no even Dave has bought into the "this bat was meant for an international player". Come in spinnerrrrrr
I know the bat maker, and have been there as the international has picked and chosen his few from the several made for him.
Pro cricket hasn't "bought into" anything.
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Not bought into nothing mate my was in a batch of 7 he took 5
But hey you believe what you like bat has served me well this season but I guess you don't know the full story.
If you ever felt it in your hands you would know it was special and different than most bats some on here have
But then again it is crown willow and people who have crown willow will know what I'm saying.
Even had the players initials on it and I see so many have now gone for the same 1271 profile so I guess a lot of people like it.
And the truth is it not about the grains it about the sheer size for the weight.
Oh and a few others on the forum know about my bat as well but in truth it is a lovely blade do you want me to bore you more about the bat
Nah it's ok I'm bored enough ;) Crown Willow... Another fragmented grading?
Didn't see one with the initials ST on it did you?
Brimble brain washed you more than you know Dave :D haha
Dave you have bagged people for years for buying into the "this bat was meant for international player X".. Can't blame me for having some fun ;)
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Am I the only one now bored by this entire topic?!
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Sports direct own slaz.
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Am I the only one now bored by this entire topic?!
Nope me too. Mind you, there's nothing else interesting happening on here at the moment.
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Nope me too. Mind you, there's nothing else interesting happening on here at the moment.
where is Shaq when you need him...? ;)
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Sorry but I'm playing catch up here, what is the 1271 profile?
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Mr trotts bat