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Title: India v Aus
Post by: petehosk on October 16, 2013, 01:55:17 PM
Australia put on a great score for their innings of 359-5!
In reply, India are doing superbly well! Sharma is batting well but by far the more enjoyable batsman to watch is Dhawan!
At this rate, this may be an easy chase!!! I wonder what the odds were for India chasing this with all 10 wockets still intact?  ???
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: thedevil on October 16, 2013, 02:08:16 PM
Australia put on a great score for their innings of 359-5!
In reply, India are doing superbly well! Sharma is batting well but by far the more enjoyable batsman to watch is Dhawan!
At this rate, this may be an easy chase!!! I wonder what the odds were for India chasing this with all 10 wockets still intact?  ???

Spoke too soon, dhawan gone for 95. Was thoroughly enjoying watching the two of them bat
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: amritpremi on October 16, 2013, 02:09:03 PM
Dhawan's down on 95, deserved a century. With the Indian batting lineup the chase is on, but looking at no. of runs to score it's still difficult. If most of the guys play well with 1 or 2 small bailey like innings the chase is possible. More often than not batsmen middle and low down the order crumble under run rate pressure. If any of Kohli, Yuvraj and Dhoni stay on crease there would be a great chance. For the moment chase is certainly on, and I hope it ends on my side  ;)
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: petehosk on October 16, 2013, 02:14:06 PM
Deserved a ton, although he should have been out early on as Haddin dropped a dolly!
I was thinking at the time that Haddin may of dropped the match win there, and it is looking like that could be the case. I was glad he dropped Dhawan though, as I love watching him bat  :D
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on October 16, 2013, 02:20:09 PM
How come Kohli is kitted out in full MRF? No longer with Nike Tick?
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: amritpremi on October 16, 2013, 02:21:37 PM

155 in 20 overs, it's now a T20 match, to be played sensibly.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: thedevil on October 16, 2013, 02:21:59 PM
Deserved a ton, although he should have been out early on as Haddin dropped a dolly!
I was thinking at the time that Haddin may of dropped the match win there, and it is looking like that could be the case. I was glad he dropped Dhawan though, as I love watching him bat  :D

He's always looking to score, some of the shots over the leg side aren't the prettiest but his off side play is timing at its best.

In my opinion rohit and dhawan are the best opening pair in the shorter formats of the game
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: amritpremi on October 16, 2013, 02:23:18 PM
How come Kohli is kitted out in full MRF? No longer with Nike Tick?

I think I saw few others on MRF roll in last Ind vs Aus match. They are roping in lot of players, Dhawan, Kohli, and I believe it was Dhoni as well, though not too sure.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Tumo on October 16, 2013, 02:24:42 PM
Also, that stumping of Dhawan earlier was definitely out... Horror show from the 3rd umpire!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: amritpremi on October 16, 2013, 02:26:52 PM
Deserved a ton, although he should have been out early on as Haddin dropped a dolly!
I was thinking at the time that Haddin may of dropped the match win there, and it is looking like that could be the case. I was glad he dropped Dhawan though, as I love watching him bat  :D

He dropped a sitter. I feel it was the fielder's catch rather than Haddin's as even though he had gloves to catch it, he had to cover a lot of ground to reach there.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: amritpremi on October 16, 2013, 02:30:10 PM

And as a fielder I would be relieved that Haddin tried it as it went miles up in the air. With all the lights around and the wait for the ball it was definitely a tough chance, but with gloves on it should have been caught.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on October 16, 2013, 02:34:25 PM
I think I saw few others on MRF roll in last Ind vs Aus match. They are roping in lot of players, Dhawan, Kohli, and I believe it was Dhoni as well, though not too sure.
Maybe they are not contracted for this series.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: amritpremi on October 16, 2013, 02:41:00 PM

Yep, looks like contract in between the contracts.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: VKS on October 16, 2013, 02:41:11 PM
What a great game of cricket..if they get it, it will be the 2nd highest ever victorious run chase! Kohli is on fire!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: amritpremi on October 16, 2013, 03:09:32 PM

58 in 11 overs, there would be only a few who would now go with Aus. Some very special batting by Kohli and sensible batting by Rohit.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: amritpremi on October 16, 2013, 03:10:57 PM

Kohli now deserves 24 runs out of the last 48 left.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on October 16, 2013, 03:23:05 PM
Never liked Kholi, always though he seemed an arrogant so & so but what a knock that was fair play.

Great to see the Aussies getting smashed. Again!!!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on October 16, 2013, 03:26:48 PM
Well what an easy win in the end. Some great batting.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: amritpremi on October 16, 2013, 03:27:40 PM
Winning with 9 wickets in hand and 6.3 overs left is a great feat, feeling pity for bowlers though.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: petehosk on October 16, 2013, 03:31:24 PM
I'm glad that Kholi got that too!
Dhawan was dropped and was stumped so possibly didn't deserve his ton when it boils down to it!
But Sharma and Kholi both hit chanceless tons and never looked like getting out!
I admire their mindset and attitudes, when faced with that huge target. It was a batsmans wicket, but to stay focused when faced with that target and to have that self belief is incredible!
Congratulations to India.....that was ruthless and superb to watch!  :)
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: jwebber86 on October 16, 2013, 03:58:47 PM
just loaded up cricinfo and seen the results seems like a good game to have watched.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: stevie_94_ on October 16, 2013, 04:05:32 PM
Great game. Bowling was poor on both sides I felt but when the pitch is that flat not a lot else they could do
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: csnew on October 16, 2013, 04:06:03 PM
Great chase to watch. Got to love those shocked aussie faces at the end ;)
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Alvaro on October 16, 2013, 04:47:08 PM
Sachin who?
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Sam on October 16, 2013, 04:47:20 PM
Wow , one heck of a match  :o.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: smilley792 on October 16, 2013, 05:54:37 PM
Great chase!


Kohli recently signed for Adidas didn't he? So strange to see mrf logos all over him.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: The_Bird on October 16, 2013, 05:57:01 PM
Great chase!


Kohli recently signed for Adidas didn't he? So strange to see mrf logos all over him.


It was only a shoe deal wasn't it?
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: smilley792 on October 16, 2013, 06:03:42 PM

It was only a shoe deal wasn't it?

How right you are.

I saw a link on twitter by kohli and it showed an Adidas bat and the lot? So strange he's just shoes.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Tail Ender on October 17, 2013, 04:46:44 AM
Kohli is quality. When we beat them 4-0 here in 2011/12 (seems so long ago now) he was the only Indian batsman who offered any kind of consistent resistance, and he's just gone on and on since. That knock last night was something else (to go with the 60-odd he scored in game one). Bailey's 92no from 50 balls was also pretty special.

We have now had four of the top five run chases in ODI cricket made against us. Not great.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: The_Bird on October 17, 2013, 08:14:27 AM
http://youtu.be/huv9kmO7UYY (http://youtu.be/huv9kmO7UYY)

It reminded me of this, Kohli is a staggeringly good player when he's on form, come to think of
It I can't remember when he's been out of form...!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: jamesisapayne on October 17, 2013, 09:21:07 AM
There's no doubt that the batsmen are quality but it really underlines to me how bowlers are unable to bowl consistent yorkers - Can't image Goughie, Wasim or Waquar bowling like that. Perhaps bowlers should concentrate on developing a good yorker rather than 50,000 slower ball variations.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: The_Bird on October 17, 2013, 10:21:41 AM
The new field settings are making huge scores more attainable now. How many times did we see the batsman make room and hit over extra cover yesterday. The bowlers need to adapt the same way the batsman adapted to the old field settings by scooping. The game needs innovators. Spinners bowling at the end of the innings could be the way to go maybe, a Good pitch and lightening outfield helps immensely also.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: wasted_talent on October 17, 2013, 03:44:07 PM
just been looking at the stats and VK has 10 100's in ODI's when chasing, that is some going! seriously talent. shame his so arrogant. :)
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: amritpremi on October 17, 2013, 03:48:37 PM
just been looking at the stats and VK has 10 100's in ODI's when chasing, that is some going! seriously talent. shame his so arrogant. :)

I think arrogance is part of his personality which makes him do well, until he starts thinking he's bigger than the team I don't mind much. There have been many other like him and Punter is the one which comes to my mind as soon as I think of it.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: wasted_talent on October 17, 2013, 03:52:07 PM
I think arrogance is part of his personality which makes him do well, until he starts thinking he's bigger than the team I don't mind much. There have been many other like him and Punter is the one which comes to my mind as soon as I think of it.

yeah thats a fair comment, wonder what his really like? as the general view is that Punter was a lovely guy off the field..!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: jamesisapayne on October 17, 2013, 03:55:25 PM
I think arrogance is part of his personality which makes him do well, until he starts thinking he's bigger than the team I don't mind much. There have been many other like him and Punter is the one which comes to my mind as soon as I think of it.

Would he be the same player without that confidence - I doubt it.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: wasted_talent on October 17, 2013, 03:56:46 PM
Would he be the same player without that confidence - I doubt it.

unfortunately, we'll never know.. as i cant see him changing his way given the success his had/having
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: amritpremi on October 17, 2013, 03:58:32 PM
yeah thats a fair comment, wonder what his really like? as the general view is that Punter was a lovely guy off the field..!

I heard he has a cool dude, fun loving image off field.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: amritpremi on October 17, 2013, 04:01:47 PM
unfortunately, we'll never know.. as i cant see him changing his way given the success his had/having

I think with time people change a bit. The Yuvraj Singh of today is pretty different from Yuvraj 5-7 years back. The more he stays in the team and perform well more are the chances he'll soften up.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: wasted_talent on October 17, 2013, 04:03:20 PM
I think with time people change a bit. The Yuvraj Singh of today is pretty different from Yuvraj 5-7 years back. The more he stays in the team and perform well more are the chances he'll soften up.

ah but Yuvi has gone for a serious life threatening experience, which arugably has made him view life in a different way altogether..?
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: wasted_talent on October 17, 2013, 04:04:06 PM
I heard he has a cool dude, fun loving image off field.

ah thats good to hear, best of luck to him, the kid is a serious talent no doubt
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Dan W on October 18, 2013, 10:36:38 AM
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Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Gerry SA on October 18, 2013, 11:01:37 PM
Some player is that kid Kohli.

Already 16 ODI hundreds and he's only 24 😱

He could end up challenging Tendulkar's 49 ODI hundreds at the rate he's going at present.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Alvaro on October 19, 2013, 12:03:52 PM
Say what you will of Dhoni, but surely there is no cooler, calculating cricketer in the world. Some player.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on October 19, 2013, 12:09:03 PM
That was a great innings! What a finish. For me that was way ahead of the last Odis innings as it was under pressure rather than just a slog fest
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Alvaro on October 19, 2013, 12:18:00 PM
That was a great innings! What a finish. For me that was way ahead of the last Odis innings as it was under pressure rather than just a slog fest

Precisely.
He seems to a master of where things need to be 10 overs in advance.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: petehosk on October 19, 2013, 12:34:07 PM
He is quality! Just watched the highlites of the Indian innings and MSD looked superb!
Some of the shots he played were crazy!
I do rate the Indian bowling weaker than the Aussie bowlers, so they'll always be a chance to chase it, but it'll still be a tough ask!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Krs on October 19, 2013, 01:41:22 PM
Kit Watch: Nike Dominates being worn by Jadeja (2014 colours)
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: cleanbowled on October 19, 2013, 01:45:09 PM
That was a great innings, i think that helicopter shot for 6 was crazy even by MSD's usual standards. Hopefully the bowlers will keep it up.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: petehosk on October 19, 2013, 01:52:05 PM
Shocking umpiring going on!! The Watson lbw was missing leg stump by miles!!
Dear me! At full speed I could see it was missing! I reckon there is an umpiring career for me once I get too old to play.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: smilley792 on October 19, 2013, 03:54:00 PM
How hard does Faulkner hit it? Am sure two of his sixes we're miss hits!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: cleanbowled on October 19, 2013, 04:14:45 PM
Really great hitting from Faulkner, but why India persist with Ishant I will never know.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: petehosk on October 30, 2013, 11:02:35 AM
BLIMEY! I know Bailey has been on form all series but this innings he has played is just superb!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: jamielsn15 on October 30, 2013, 11:14:09 AM
Am I the only one who can't take it too seriously as the tracks are clearly lifeless.

May as well tune in to ESPN and watch the home run derby...
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: petehosk on October 30, 2013, 11:18:45 AM
I was impressed with his batting. I realise that the wickets were probably supposed to favour the Indian team but Bailey has stood out as the quality looking bat with the kind of consistency I can only dream about.
I think with 350 on the board, it could turn out to be a brilliant match.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: csnew on October 30, 2013, 02:22:38 PM
Kohli's at it again.
350 looks like it's going to be chased down again.
This is one fast outfield
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Buzz on October 30, 2013, 02:26:03 PM
this is not what cricket is about. If I wanted to watch that I would go to a baseball park...
Actually pitches in baseball at least have a chance.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: cricketbadger on October 30, 2013, 03:55:22 PM
Good entertainment in terms of watching the batsmen smash it everywhere, but nothing in it for the bowlers makes it slightly dull
Slow pitches and lack of seam and swing, I'd say 350 is only just above par on those types of wickets and an outfield like glass
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: csnew on October 30, 2013, 04:39:18 PM
Good entertainment in terms of watching the batsmen smash it everywhere, but nothing in it for the bowlers makes it slightly dull
Slow pitches and lack of seam and swing, I'd say 350 is only just above par on those types of wickets and an outfield like glass

Its sub continent conditions, your not going to get much seam or swing. So why should people think it should be there. Your either going to get a pitch like this or one like the Pak vs SA game.

Interesting that Dhoni is not happy with the new ODI conditions.
Probably going to get 400 at Bangalore with those 60m boundaries
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: cricketbadger on October 30, 2013, 05:15:13 PM
Yeh didn't really take that into account when posting in the first place
Do these conditions have anything to do with Indian batsmen and their inflated averages
Take nothing away from players like Kohli, but its certainly easier batting in these conditions
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: The_Bird on October 30, 2013, 05:22:24 PM
Yeh didn't really take that into account when posting in the first place
Do these conditions have anything to do with Indian batsmen and their inflated averages
Take nothing away from players like Kohli, but its certainly easier batting in these conditions


How do you think Sehwag averaged over 50 in tests...scored rapid triple hundreds etc.

Flat track bullies. Kohli is a class apart though.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: jamielsn15 on October 30, 2013, 05:35:30 PM
this is not what cricket is about. If I wanted to watch that I would go to a baseball park...
Actually pitches in baseball at least have a chance.

Couldn't agree more.  Had to laugh at Tom Moody and an Indian commentator saying that "they would prefer to bat in Jaipur than on this one!"  Have to agree, 350+ for each side shows batting has been an absolute nightmare...

I have to be honest, I do not like the way the game is going in India - very similar to the all-consuming Football Premier League here.  In both, the standard of the respective games is not the world leader.  I certainly don't rush to the TV when I hear there's an IPL or ODI match on.

I think Kohli's great, but I'll start taking him (and Dhawan, Yuvraj, et al) seriously when they start seriously competing and prforming consistently at Test level.  I hope they do and then the game will be in a better place.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: amritpremi on October 30, 2013, 06:02:55 PM

I agree it was very batsmen friendly conditions, but the standard of bowling hasn't been great either. If bowlers bowl very well in conditions favouring them they should atleast bowl decent enough when conditions don't suit them. With new rules its definitely getting tougher for bowlers, spin bowling in ODIs might be finished soon. We should have players (both batsmen & bowlers) who are not conditions dependent, we should have players who can fight the conditions/odds.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Gerry SA on October 30, 2013, 07:23:23 PM

How do you think Sehwag averaged over 50 in tests...scored rapid triple hundreds etc.

Flat track bullies. Kohli is a class apart though.
Rather a moronic statement.

There have only been 26 Test match triple hundreds in the history of cricket.

And only 4 men have scored multiple Test match triple hundreds.

If 'flat pitches' are easy for batting, why haven't Tendulkar, Kallis, Ponting(the latter two have played plenty of matches in India) ever scored a Test match 300?

Judging your comment on flat pitches, does that mean Lara's two world records aren't worthy either?

As St John's, Antigua is considered the flattest pitch in the history of cricket...
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: The_Bird on October 30, 2013, 07:52:53 PM
I was responding to this comment.

''Do these conditions have anything to do with Indian batsmen and their inflated averages''

I was stating that a large part of the Indian team of the past' had  over inflated averages  largely down to flat tracks, I thought that was pretty common knowledge. Lara, Tendulkar, Kallis scored runs everywhere. Sehwag didn't, why hasn't Sehwag averaged over 50 in England? Conditions are everything in cricket, Sehwag didn't have the technique to stand up in England, the others did.

A triple hundred is an astonishing achievement but do you rate Mat Hayden's 380 as an amazing feat? He did well to keep his concentration as he planted the woeful Zimbabwean attack on the roof.

I'd watch Atherton's 185 over a Sehwag triple hundred.


So you don't think Sehwag was a flat track bully...?


Go on...
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Alvaro on October 30, 2013, 08:01:55 PM
Test hundreds in Nottingham are rarely made on flat tracks, neither at Bloemfontein ...
Sehwag was a thrilling player. Just lazy.

Perhaps one of his finest achievements was getting runners banned! :D
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Alvaro on October 30, 2013, 08:05:15 PM
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/64061.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/64061.html)

This knock at MCG was his first back after he had been dropped. 195 in 70 test overs.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Gerry SA on October 30, 2013, 10:11:05 PM
I was responding to this comment.

''Do these conditions have anything to do with Indian batsmen and their inflated averages''

I was stating that a large part of the Indian team of the past' had  over inflated averages  largely down to flat tracks, I thought that was pretty common knowledge. Lara, Tendulkar, Kallis scored runs everywhere. Sehwag didn't, why hasn't Sehwag averaged over 50 in England? Conditions are everything in cricket, Sehwag didn't have the technique to stand up in England, the others did.

A triple hundred is an astonishing achievement but do you rate Mat Hayden's 380 as an amazing feat? He did well to keep his concentration as he planted the woeful Zimbabwean attack on the roof.

I'd watch Atherton's 185 over a Sehwag triple hundred.


So you don't think Sehwag was a flat track bully...?


Go on...
The ability to hit good balls to the boundary doesn't mean you are a slogger/flat track bully.

As for technique, Sehwag's got a pretty good one. Plays straight. High elbow. Footwork is a little static, but is made up for by a quite fantastic eye/hand coordination.

As Alvaro mentioned, Sehwag's 100 on debut at Bloemfontein , India's top order am destroyed on a raging seamer. Sehwag scored a 100 at 60 runs per hundred balls. Slogging? Not a bit of it.

Flat track bullies don't score 300s against bowlers like Shoaib, Saqlain, Steyn, Morkel etc.

As for one of the most remarkable innings I've seen Sehwag play. 201* vs Sri Lanka when Murali and Mendis where running riot against India's famed middle order. Sehwag scored 201 out off 300.

Also his mesmerising 290 odd vs Sri Lanka at Mumbai on a turning pitch. I've never seen Murali get caned so badly. And this chap Murali, he's the greatest wicket taker in Test history. No lolly pop bowler. 

As Alvaro said, there's a difference between a FTB and Sehwag. The word is lazy.

A bit like Brazilian Ronaldo, Sehwag never realised his full potential.

I'd term someone like hype job Yuvraj as a FTB
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: csnew on October 30, 2013, 10:52:08 PM
I agree it was very batsmen friendly conditions, but the standard of bowling hasn't been great either. If bowlers bowl very well in conditions favouring them they should atleast bowl decent enough when conditions don't suit them. With new rules its definitely getting tougher for bowlers, spin bowling in ODIs might be finished soon. We should have players (both batsmen & bowlers) who are not conditions dependent, we should have players who can fight the conditions/odds.


Was that not the plan by the icc to prevent spin domination in the middle overs ( particularly part time spinners) to help certain teams who struggled in the middle overs rotating the strike.

Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on October 30, 2013, 10:54:42 PM
this is not what cricket is about. If I wanted to watch that I would go to a baseball park...
Actually pitches in baseball at least have a chance.

Couldn't agree more, that game is just not fun. Slogging it about gets very boring, very quickly. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Snooze fest, give me a competitive 200 plays 200 anyway over that tripe. God help cricket if India gets its way
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: amritpremi on October 31, 2013, 02:25:08 AM

Was that not the plan by the icc to prevent spin domination in the middle overs ( particularly part time spinners) to help certain teams who struggled in the middle overs rotating the strike.

I agree, it is certainly helping teams like Australia, SA & England who found it hard to tackle even part time spinners.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: swamidude on October 31, 2013, 10:51:25 AM
Dhawan can't really be called a flat track bully-it was only in the Champions Trophy this summer in England where he was hitting Steyn, Malinga and Irfan round the park. As were Rohit Sharma and Kohli. And Kohli's 43 in the Final on a nasty pitch was the innings that saved India. I'd say the BCCI just has to arrange more away tours and more test series so that they can get the chance to prove themselves abroad and in the longer format.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: csnew on November 02, 2013, 07:51:14 AM
Could be a chance of 400 today.
60m boundaries
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: A-Swing-And-A-Miss on November 02, 2013, 08:12:27 AM
Dhawan can't really be called a flat track bully-it was only in the Champions Trophy this summer in England where he was hitting Steyn, Malinga and Irfan round the park. As were Rohit Sharma and Kohli. And Kohli's 43 in the Final on a nasty pitch was the innings that saved India. I'd say the BCCI just has to arrange more away tours and more test series so that they can get the chance to prove themselves abroad and in the longer format.

Steyn didn't even play in the tournament..
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: The_Bird on November 02, 2013, 11:53:38 AM
Sharma going mental, on for a double hundred at this rate!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 02, 2013, 12:09:02 PM
Am I the only one who isn't enjoying this slog fest??
No real competition with these tiny boundaries
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: The_Bird on November 02, 2013, 12:14:01 PM
Dhoni's innings has been ridiculous. Effortless hitting and this could set up an interesting run chase as there is no reason the Aussies can't just do the same. The new fielding restrictions need looking at I think but McKay and Coulter Nile have bowled fodder. At least Faulkner bowled with some sort of idea and theory to try and stop the run fest. The spinners were a waste of time, floating up hit me balls all day.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 02, 2013, 12:15:19 PM
With those boundaries I reckon India are 20-30 short of par  ;)
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: csnew on November 02, 2013, 12:19:11 PM
Score was always on the cards.  McKay looked lost.

Small boundaries + altitude. Chase is always on
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: wayward_hayward on November 02, 2013, 12:19:44 PM
Am I the only one who isn't enjoying this slog fest??
No real competition with these tiny boundaries

ODI's in India are possible the worst form of cricket ever. No contest between bat and ball, boundaries become just as mundane as dot balls. Give me a 200 run pitch over these pitches any day.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Krs on November 02, 2013, 12:28:47 PM
The SA vs PAK games are so much more interesting
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: The_Bird on November 02, 2013, 12:30:31 PM
The SA vs PAK games are so much more interesting

Definitely, it's annoying none of that tour has been on TV!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on November 02, 2013, 12:41:35 PM
Score was always on the cards.  McKay looked lost.

Small boundaries + altitude. Chase is always on

'Chase is on' - who cares! It's still a boring game when scores are this high. It's not #worldclass players, it's average to poor bowling on super flat tracks with stupidly biased power plays.

I just wish sky wouldn't waste their time showing any game in India, completely pointless. Their bats end up with massively over inflated egos and stats and then Indians claim them 'the best ever' etc. sorry but I take a player avging low 40's in low scoring games over an Indian averaging 700+ on Indian tracks.

It is a shame there is no choice of which games to watch and then sky would see how boring this series is with low viewing figures.

Butcher saying 'dharwan/rohit/kholi haven't made a mistake' -u,m where you not watching just this game when rohit spooned it JUST over mid on, oh when he decided to spoon it up and only just dropped short of mid on, or dharwan top edging. Etc etc


They are mistakes, so to say its faultless and haven't made a mistake is utter crap. They are playing well on flat wickets, against poo international bowlers and getting a way with loose shots.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Krs on November 02, 2013, 12:51:07 PM
Definitely, it's annoying none of that tour has been on TV!


It is if you purchase Jadoo TV, all football and cricket free :)

http://www.jadoodirect.com (http://www.jadoodirect.com)
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 02, 2013, 12:55:17 PM
It is if you purchase Jadoo TV, all football and cricket free :)
Is that the same as if you pay for a car service the oil change is free??  ;)
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: csnew on November 02, 2013, 12:55:44 PM
'Chase is on' - who cares! It's still a boring game when scores are this high. It's not #worldclass players, it's average to poor bowling on super flat tracks with stupidly biased power plays.

I just wish sky wouldn't waste their time showing any game in India, completely pointless. Their bats end up with massively over inflated egos and stats and then Indians claim them 'the best ever' etc. sorry but I take a player avging low 40's in low scoring games over an Indian averaging 700+ on Indian tracks.

It is a shame there is no choice of which games to watch and then sky would see how boring this series is with low viewing figures.

Butcher saying 'dharwan/rohit/kholi haven't made a mistake' -u,m where you not watching just this game when rohit spooned it JUST over mid on, oh when he decided to spoon it up and only just dropped short of mid on, or dharwan top edging. Etc etc


They are mistakes, so to say its faultless and haven't made a mistake is utter crap. They are playing well on flat wickets, against poo international bowlers and getting a way with loose shots.

Think your lost on sky's viewing figures. Sky are still making huge profits otherwise they wouldn't bother.
You have a choice of not watching, if its not your cup of tea don't watch. Simple.

Your not going to get green tops in india. As I mentioned previously, all these rule changes were introduced to prevent spin domination in the middle overs (particularly part time spinners) to help certain teams who struggled in the middle overs rotating the strike and hitting boundaries.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Krs on November 02, 2013, 12:58:48 PM
Is that the same as if you pay for a car service the oil change is free??  ;)

Kinda lol.

Got it for £180, get all sky sports channels, Indian and Pakistani sports channels oh and some US ones.

Sky alone used to cost me £70 a month, now I only pay £20. Jadoo made my money back in 4 months.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 02, 2013, 01:06:02 PM
Did they put a new drop in pitch down between innings for India to bowl on??
And does anyone else think Finch was unlucky?? Looked to be missing leg to me in real time and slowmo
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on November 02, 2013, 01:31:54 PM
Think your lost on sky's viewing figures. Sky are still making huge profits otherwise they wouldn't bother.
You have a choice of not watching, if its not your cup of tea don't watch. Simple.

Your not going to get green tops in india. As I mentioned previously, all these rule changes were introduced to prevent spin domination in the middle overs (particularly part time spinners) to help certain teams who struggled in the middle overs rotating the strike and hitting boundaries.

Give a crap o'meter on which teams can/can't play spin. If you can't play spin then that's your own fault, don't change the rules so sloggers can prosper.

You don't have a choice, if you want to watch cricket the sky is about your only medium, which means ind vs aus is the only offering. I wonder how many who have watched it would have chosen to have watched pak vs sa (insert another match if you want)?? Just because 2 million have watched it doesn't mean 2 million WANT to watch it, just means that a certain % will watch because it's the only cricket on.

In the main only Indian fans seem to want to see these games, I don't know many that actually enjoy these slog fests (the odd one is amusing but game after game and series after series)

Bit like low level stuff, I understand why they restrict bowlers overs but if they want to force you to use 5 bowlers then it'd be better to say 'you must use 5 bowlers who each bowl 6 over' rather than restrict a bowler to x overs. Again, of it's to stop the spinners bowling loads and beating teams then it's the batsmans fault, not the rules.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Kieron_BT on November 02, 2013, 01:52:28 PM
What the hell was George Bailey just doing? Never seen anything like it!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Torque on November 02, 2013, 01:53:27 PM
What an absolutely shocking piece of cricket. What was George Bailey doing! ???
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Torque on November 02, 2013, 02:06:04 PM
What hitting from Maxwell!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: nikunjind on November 02, 2013, 02:30:24 PM
'Chase is on' - who cares! It's still a boring game when scores are this high. It's not #worldclass players, it's average to poor bowling on super flat tracks with stupidly biased power plays.

I just wish sky wouldn't waste their time showing any game in India, completely pointless. Their bats end up with massively over inflated egos and stats and then Indians claim them 'the best ever' etc. sorry but I take a player avging low 40's in low scoring games over an Indian averaging 700+ on Indian tracks.

It is a shame there is no choice of which games to watch and then sky would see how boring this series is with low viewing figures.

Butcher saying 'dharwan/rohit/kholi haven't made a mistake' -u,m where you not watching just this game when rohit spooned it JUST over mid on, oh when he decided to spoon it up and only just dropped short of mid on, or dharwan top edging. Etc etc


They are mistakes, so to say its faultless and haven't made a mistake is utter crap. They are playing well on flat wickets, against poo international bowlers and getting a way with loose shots.
I don't know what Cricket you have been watching but the 200 Rohit Sharma scored today were in most part proper cricket shots and the two 100s Virat has hit.. how can you or other people say it was not pure cricketing strokes. Haha Average to poor bowling this is the same bowling attack pretty much that won the champions trophy only 6 months ago in English conditions that teams struggled to get us away??

I think a lot of this stems from the fact that apart from KP and Morgan who are both not English could never imagine to bat like this and people are envious of India having the best batting line up in ODI's. Remember we are no1 in world cricket for a reason in ODI Cricket.

I do agree the pitches are flat but you cannot blame the players for this can you.

Haha Dhawan ripping in to a Grumpy Watson how can you not say its not entertaining. If you don't want to watch it you can change the channel I guess.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 02, 2013, 02:34:49 PM
I don't know what Cricket you have been watching but the 200 Rohit Sharma scored today were in most part proper cricket shots and the two 100s Virat has hit.. how can you or other people say it was not pure cricketing strokes. Haha Average to poor bowling this is the same bowling attack pretty much that won the champions trophy only 6 months ago in English conditions that teams struggled to get us away??

I think a lot of this stems from the fact that apart from KP and Morgan who are both not English could never imagine to bat like this and people are envious of India having the best batting line up in ODI's. Remember we are no1 in world cricket for a reason in ODI Cricket.

I do agree the pitches are flat but you cannot blame the players for this can you.

Haha Dhawan ripping in to a Grumpy Watson how can you not say its not entertaining. If you don't want to watch it you can change the channel I guess.
Jelous of India?? Stop trying to kid yourself mate, you may well be good at hit & giggle cricket, but test matches are where it's all at, and your "best in the world batting lineup" isn't all that in the longer format.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: smilley792 on November 02, 2013, 02:38:39 PM
So many anger issues in here it's unbelievable.



Both teams play on the same pitch, so I don't see the issues. Best side should come out on top regardless.

You enjoy big hitting, then watch,
You don't, go watch DIY SOS. Simples.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 02, 2013, 02:43:37 PM
You enjoy big hitting, then watch,
You don't, go watch DIY SOS. Simples.
All about the 165th repeats of Only Fools on G.O.L.D mate, know the script back to front but still more entertaining than this tosh!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: nikunjind on November 02, 2013, 02:45:57 PM
So many anger issues in here it's unbelievable.



Both teams play on the same pitch, so I don't see the issues. Best side should come out on top regardless.

You enjoy big hitting, then watch,
You don't, go watch DIY SOS. Simples.
I agree on with you on this, you don't need to watch if you are not enjoying it.

No anger issues at all lol, it's just annoying people making comments that are rubbish and probably made by people that have no clue about cricket in reality.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 02, 2013, 02:47:39 PM
I agree on with you on this, you don't need to watch if you are not enjoying it.

No anger issues at all lol, it's just annoying people making comments that are rubbish and probably made by people that have no clue about cricket in reality.
I don't think you're likely to find many people on here with no clue about cricket somehow haha
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Blazer on November 02, 2013, 02:48:00 PM
Flat pitch or not , good batsman standout by the time they have to play. I think Virat , Rohit and Dhawan is supremely talented in that respect. I am sure most of us who have played cricket knows that getting a 100 or 200 for that matter has to do with more than just a flat pitch.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 02, 2013, 02:50:22 PM
Flat pitch or not , good batsman standout by the time they have to play. I think Virat , Rohit and Dhawan is supremely talented in that respect. I am sure most of us who have played cricket knows that getting a 100 or 200 for that matter has to do with more than just a flat pitch.
Totally agree mate, last time someone got a hundred While I was captain it only took them 6 overs. They bowled too many short balls and full tosses, but did get a wicket in his spell  ;)
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Torque on November 02, 2013, 02:53:39 PM
Right! Back to the cricket; how unlucky was Watson then?
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: nikunjind on November 02, 2013, 02:55:07 PM
Jelous of India?? Stop trying to kid yourself mate, you may well be good at hit & giggle cricket, but test matches are where it's all at, and your "best in the world batting lineup" isn't all that in the longer format.
lol so you have nothing to say on how we played in the Champs Trophy in England! Only team to remain undefeated? Or about how we bowled that series?

I am not kidding anyone just telling the truth..in the first one dayer we was bowled out for 231 nobody said anything then? Also Johnson is probably one of the best One day bowlers at present and was leading wicker in England a few months back..

Actually even other cricket writers have said that the batting in this series has been on another level. This even coming from are arch rivals Pakistani Ramiz Raja who says India are blessed with the best batsmen.

I agree Test Cricket is the most ultimate form and once the likes of Kolhi, Sharma, Dhawan, Pujara play for a few more years in Test Cricket we will be in the top two test playing nations again.

Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on November 02, 2013, 03:01:10 PM
I agree on with you on this, you don't need to watch if you are not enjoying it.

No anger issues at all lol, it's just annoying people making comments that are rubbish and probably made by people that have no clue about cricket in reality.

No clue - yeah ok.

I think we have a staunch INdia are the best raaaa raaaa raaaa
Sprout scoring 200 is a great personal milestone , but to say most of his shots were 'pure' is wrong. Quite a lot were stand and deliver by no/little feet and throw the hands through... Easier to do on flat tracks, hence the higher scores.. Plus he should have been caught at 126 but sloppy fielding allowed him to continue so luck always plays a big part for anyone scoring highly.

As for comments on other series, I don't remember many 350+ plays 350+ games ? As for being jealous, don't be so silly! Who gets jealous over cricket!

Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 02, 2013, 03:04:34 PM
lol so you have nothing to say on how we played in the Champs Trophy in England! Only team to remain undefeated? Or about how we bowled that series?

I am not kidding anyone just telling the truth..in the first one dayer we was bowled out for 231 nobody said anything then? Also Johnson is probably one of the best One day bowlers at present and was leading wicker in England a few months back..

Actually even other cricket writers have said that the batting in this series has been on another level. This even coming from are arch rivals Pakistani Ramiz Raja who says India are blessed with the best batsmen.

I agree Test Cricket is the most ultimate form and once the likes of Kolhi, Sharma, Dhawan, Pujara play for a few more years in Test Cricket we will be in the top two test playing nations again.
Yes India played well in the champions trophy, they even got a trophy for it so change the record!

At the end of the day I'm sure some are jealous of India's batting talent, but Bangladesh and Zimbabwe are hardly cricketing super powers are they haha  ;)
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: nikunjind on November 02, 2013, 03:05:12 PM
Right! Back to the cricket; how unlucky was Watson then?
Very Unfortunate, some crazy hitting by Maxwell and Watson.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 02, 2013, 03:05:57 PM
Very Unfortunate, some crazy hitting by Maxwell and Watson.
Add Faulkner to that list
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: 19reading87 on November 02, 2013, 03:08:58 PM
The Indians laying into the Aussies is hilarious! They are all mouth on the pitch but off it Watson and co would knock them into next week!!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 02, 2013, 03:11:41 PM
The Indians laying into the Aussies is hilarious! They are all mouth on the pitch but off it Watson and co would knock them into next week!!
It a good thing Davey Warner isn't there, he'd have been throwing punches straight away  ;)
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: nikunjind on November 02, 2013, 03:23:30 PM
No clue - yeah ok.

I think we have a staunch INdia are the best raaaa raaaa raaaa
Sprout scoring 200 is a great personal milestone , but to say most of his shots were 'pure' is wrong. Quite a lot were stand and deliver by no/little feet and throw the hands through... Easier to do on flat tracks, hence the higher scores.. Plus he should have been caught at 126 but sloppy fielding allowed him to continue so luck always plays a big part for anyone scoring highly.

As for comments on other series, I don't remember many 350+ plays 350+ games ? As for being jealous, don't be so silly! Who gets jealous over cricket!
Well from some of the things you have said sounds like you don't have much of a clue to be honest.

I just said we are ranked number one and have the best batting line up yes.

So good hand eye co-ordination has nothing to do with it or special talent, you have to remember these are elite sportsmen and am sure for example if you was put into bat vs this bowling attack you would not score anywhere near a 100. So lets respect the innings some of these players have played this series regardless of flat pitches which again is not the players fault nor is them getting dropped. You could be dropped on 126 and then be out next bowl too but he went on to score 200.

From some of your posts seems you have a issue with watching some world class batsmen.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 02, 2013, 03:28:40 PM
So they've gone from pure cricket strokes to good hand eye coordination...

From your posts I have to ask, are you high or just trolling??
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: smilley792 on November 02, 2013, 03:29:42 PM
We'll batted Clint mckay
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 02, 2013, 03:34:25 PM
We'll batted Clint mckay
Is the run chase still on?? Now McKay has got going I think it's possible ;)

If the result isn't possible there is now the sub plot, will Kumar make 3 figures??
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 02, 2013, 03:36:03 PM
There it is! Century for Kumar, well bowled lad!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: smilley792 on November 02, 2013, 03:38:32 PM
Well batted James Faulkner!

100 of 57, and a good bowler too. Is he got a chance of becoming a genuine allrounder? And the worlds best in the future?
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: iand123 on November 02, 2013, 03:38:42 PM
The double ton is a great achievement but one has to feel its a bit cheapened if Maxwell got 60 off 20 odd balls in the same game
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: The_Bird on November 02, 2013, 03:55:45 PM
Australia will win this.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 02, 2013, 04:03:11 PM
Australia will win this.
If they do fair play to them. I'd written them off long ago (about the time Bailey was run out in fact)
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: deanoknight on November 02, 2013, 04:05:02 PM
i'd love aus to win this India thought they had this licked 
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: smilley792 on November 02, 2013, 04:05:07 PM
Runs are drying up,

Good bowling? Or pressure building now a win looked likely?
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 02, 2013, 04:10:13 PM
Think its a combination of too much pressure, too many runs and too few wickets
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: csnew on November 02, 2013, 04:15:33 PM
Best odi series in a long time.  :D
Runs runs and more runs.
Odi's has always been about runs
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Manormanic on November 02, 2013, 05:05:09 PM
"why did Australia bowl with five Ishants?" love it!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: The Palmist on November 02, 2013, 06:36:40 PM
The double ton is a great achievement but one has to feel its a bit cheapened if Maxwell got 60 off 20 odd balls in the same game
Pun Intended...

I know exactly what you mean. In the same way Gayle's IPL 175 was cheapened by De Villiers 31 off 8 balls. Yes!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Vic Nicholas on November 03, 2013, 04:59:43 AM
[url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/64061.html[/url] ([url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/64061.html[/url])

This knock at MCG was his first back after he had been dropped. 195 in 70 test overs.


In a summer where Warne was suspended and McGrath was out with a heel injury.

As soon as he had to face quality bowling - he (No Swearing Please) his pants.

If Sehwag faced Akram, Waqar, Ambrose, Walsh, Donald, Pollock, McGrath, Gillespie, Gough and Caddick in the mid to late 90's and still averaged over 50 - I would dip my lid. However, whenever he came up anything resembling class bowling in his perfectly timed career, he (No Swearing Please) his pants.

At least Tendulkar and Dravid made runs against everybody, everywhere.

You have to respect that.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Alvaro on November 03, 2013, 10:29:37 AM
Fair cop.

Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Gerry SA on November 03, 2013, 02:59:14 PM
In a summer where Warne was suspended and McGrath was out with a heel injury.

As soon as he had to face quality bowling - he (No Swearing Please) his pants.

If Sehwag faced Akram, Waqar, Ambrose, Walsh, Donald, Pollock, McGrath, Gillespie, Gough and Caddick in the mid to late 90's and still averaged over 50 - I would dip my lid. However, whenever he came up anything resembling class bowling in his perfectly timed career, he (No Swearing Please) his pants.

At least Tendulkar and Dravid made runs against everybody, everywhere.

You have to respect that.
What exactly did Warne ever bring to the table against India?

India smashed him around like he was a club bowler.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Gerry SA on November 03, 2013, 03:01:52 PM
In a summer where Warne was suspended and McGrath was out with a heel injury.

As soon as he had to face quality bowling - he (No Swearing Please) his pants.

If Sehwag faced Akram, Waqar, Ambrose, Walsh, Donald, Pollock, McGrath, Gillespie, Gough and Caddick in the mid to late 90's and still averaged over 50 - I would dip my lid. However, whenever he came up anything resembling class bowling in his perfectly timed career, he (No Swearing Please) his pants.

At least Tendulkar and Dravid made runs against everybody, everywhere.

You have to respect that.
And how are you supposed to faced bowlers who have already retired before you've played a Test?
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: jamielsn15 on November 04, 2013, 08:58:24 AM
I'm a bit late on this, been away for the weekend, but I watched the highlights on Sky yesterday.

First the good; a double is a double and in an ODI, albeit on a track where you can score sixes with your eyes closed, that's a great effort.  Similarly Watson, Maxwell and Faulkner, great hitting...

Now the bad.  Am I the only one who thought that the behaviour of the Indians in the field was shocking?  I love Dhawan as a player and for his ability to sculpt facial hair, but he's gone down in my estimation as a person big time for his goading of Watson.  It looked, frankly, pathetic - absolutely no need for it.  Deliberately playing to the crowd and the watching millions on TV and setting a very poor example of how to behave on a cricket field.  In my opinion.

If you think he's feigning injury, just chat at him.  If he isn't (and the fact he came in low down clearly shows he was injured), why are you making fun of a player with a genuine injury?  I know many will disagree but I found all of that totally devoid of sportsmanship, class and humour.

The player's behaviour at the end of the game, I felt, also lacked class by leaving Faulkner standing there while they run off to celebrate on their own for a fair period of time.  It's all about winning I know and being happy at winning - but you should do it graciously.  These incidents, coupled with things you hear about the behaviour of some of the players generally seems like they are starting to believe their own press and hype - it smacks of arrogance and, in the whole scheme of the history of the game, none of these current players have left anywhere near a lasting legacy to justify their attitudes.  I think back to watching India play on the TV over the years with anticipation and joy - Kapil Dev, Gavaskar, ST, Dravid, VVS - amazing to watch and players who carried themselves with dignity and humility.  I saw none of that yesterday and Fletcher and Dhoni have to bear some responsibility for that.  As someone who has captained and managed teams previously, I believe your players play and behave as you demand.  I hope they both took the players to task for their behaviour.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Manormanic on November 04, 2013, 09:01:18 AM
Agree about Dhawan's behaviour but, since it was Watson, think he might deserve a bit of leeway.  Watson is, after all, a massive tit!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: TangoWhiskey on November 04, 2013, 10:06:24 AM
Yeah I'm totally in agreement. Doesn't matter how much you dislike your opponent, you should never wish to see anyone injured. A great example of this was when Joe Root was hit in the face by a ball in the T20 that went through his grill, the first person to run over and check if he was alright was David Warner. I too used to think very highly of Dhawan but that was awful behaviour.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: sgcricket on November 04, 2013, 10:29:44 AM
I am not condoning Dhawan's behaviour but Watson had mocked him in the last match after he got out on 100. So Dhawan was just giving it back to him.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: The_Bird on November 04, 2013, 10:44:35 AM
Watson has a pretty volatile character, I think he would fall out with himself if he was left alone.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: jamielsn15 on November 04, 2013, 10:50:16 AM
Agree re; all Watson comments, 100% and I wasn't aware that Watson gave him some stick the previous game.

That said, is Dhawan going to do that to every player who sledges him?!  If so, he's going to do more talking and prancing around in his career than ST's scored international runs...

He looked ridiculous and I'd be embarrassed if I was him, Dhoni & Fletcher.  Kohli needs to reel his neck in as well...
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Vic Nicholas on November 04, 2013, 12:47:08 PM
What exactly did Warne ever bring to the table against India?

India smashed him around like he was a club bowler.

He made that 195 in a day against such modern day giants as Brett Lee, Nathan Bracken, Brad Williams and Stuart MacGill.

In a series where McGrath, Gillespie and Warne were all unavailable for different reasons, would you class the above as anything other than a 3rd rate Australian bowling line up?

I mean, seriously, but for limited overs cricket, I doubt any of you would have heard of the docile Nathan Bracken who bowled a scary 125kms at full pace and I am certain most of you have never heard of Brad Williams whatever the case.

As for Warne, India smashed him around like a club bowler in India in 1997 when he was coming back from a shoulder operation which forced him to change the way he bowled and to drop certain deliveries (like the flipper) forever.

In the series in India later that very year (after Sehwags 195), Warne took 14 wickets in 3 tests at 30.07. Had he not missed the last test with a broken finger on a rank turner (Michael Clarke took 6 for 9!!!), I am certain he would have broken the 20 wickets in the series mark at an average in the lower 20's.

So, I repeat, having McGrath, Gillespie and Warne with Lee as the third paceman rather than the main man, I very much doubt that the mentally fragile Sehwag would have accomplished much in that series.

Sehwag was spectacular to watch, but he was not a patch on Tendulkar, Dravid or even Laxman.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Vic Nicholas on November 04, 2013, 12:53:36 PM
And how are you supposed to faced bowlers who have already retired before you've played a Test?

Sehwag massacred the Bangladesh's and Zimbabwe's of this world...but when confronted by anything resembling half decent bowling he went to water and was dropped.

He was then brought back in that series against Australia to face Lee, Bracken and Williams (surprise, surprise) where he did well.

He then feasted on the Bangla's Srio Lankans etc again...until he had to face a reasonable English attack in England and Australian attack a couple summers back - and he failed miserably.

They stuck by him for a while longer to beat up some minnows, then he faced Australia again this year on home doctored dead wickets...and he failed yet again.

His career is over now.

Matty Hayden has a similarly imposing record as Sehwag, but give me Michael Slater any day who faced off against Ambrose, Walsh, Waqar, Akram, Donald, Pollock, Gough, Caddick etc and made runs against them all.

There in lies my point.

Tendulkar, Dravid and co had the technique to perform against everybody, everywhere, Sehwag was a flat track bully.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Nickauger on November 04, 2013, 12:54:09 PM
Brett Lee was class!!!! The rest not so much! Was he 3rd seamer in the test team? I always thought he opened up? Probably wrong though!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Vic Nicholas on November 04, 2013, 01:02:08 PM
Brett Lee was class!!!! The rest not so much! Was he 3rd seamer in the test team? I always thought he opened up? Probably wrong though!

Those days he was third seamer behind McGrath and Gillespie.

Heck, even Fleming used to open the bowling ahead of him when Dizzy was injured.

Lee's best was at the very start of his career and at the very end. In between, there was a lot of dross. And this was in the middle of his dross period an led to him being dropped for 18 months soon after.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Nickauger on November 04, 2013, 02:03:41 PM
Ah OK. I must admit, being relatively young, I only remember him when he was bowling very very quick
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: The_Bird on November 04, 2013, 02:29:24 PM
Ah OK. I must admit, being relatively young, I only remember him when he was bowling very very quick

He was still bowling 90+ mph in 2012!

He was the blueprint for consistently bowling fast over a long career. Got a fair but of tap every now and then.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: The Palmist on November 04, 2013, 07:16:40 PM
Australian team fans and supporters deserve everything coming to them. As much as I admire the organisation and their ability to not give up....I will never have any sympathy for them.

Sore losers they have always been!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 04, 2013, 07:52:28 PM
Sore losers they have always been!
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Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: The Palmist on November 04, 2013, 08:43:48 PM
lol May the force be with you 22/7
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Vic Nicholas on November 05, 2013, 01:00:36 PM
Australian team fans and supporters deserve everything coming to them. As much as I admire the organisation and their ability to not give up....I will never have any sympathy for them.

Sore losers they have always been!

Oh yeah, and everybody else are GOOD losers?

Please, get a  grip of yourself.

You sound like a boorish winner who loves sticking it up people.

Then, when your team does go on the slippery slope downward, rather than face the music, you will vanish like a fart in the wind.

I know your type only too well.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: The Palmist on November 05, 2013, 09:54:40 PM

You sound like a boorish winner who loves sticking it up people.

Yes I love sticking it up but not everyone, just Australians.

A team whose coach calls on masses to misbehave with guests deserves everything coming it's way.

Your reactions only proves my point about you being a sore sore sore loser.

Loser Loser Loser na na na na na
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: FattusCattus on November 05, 2013, 10:06:44 PM
Oh yeah, and everybody else are GOOD losers?

Please, get a  grip of yourself.

You sound like a boorish winner who loves sticking it up people.

Then, when your team does go on the slippery slope downward, rather than face the music, you will vanish like a fart in the wind.

I know your type only too well.

Cor Vic - that's a bit rough! As someone who spent the nineties and noughties watching a poor England get hammered by an excellent Australia, I had to put up with a fair amount of boorish behaviour by their press, their fans, many of the players and most Aussies living over here.

The boring '5 nil' pronouncements of people like McGrath and Warne, the overuse of sledging from Merv, the press writing off every England touring side, and smug Aussies in every pub in West London.

It is simply cyclical as we are currently in the ascendency - but it wasn't so long ago that some Aussies had cornered the market in being 'boorish winners'!!
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: The Palmist on November 07, 2013, 09:18:01 PM
It is simply cyclical as we are currently in the ascendency - but it wasn't so long ago that some Aussies had cornered the market in being 'boorish winners'!!

That's probably what he meant when he said "I know your type too well"   :o
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Vic Nicholas on November 11, 2013, 05:32:59 AM
Yes I love sticking it up but not everyone, just Australians.

A team whose coach calls on masses to misbehave with guests deserves everything coming it's way.

Your reactions only proves my point about you being a sore sore sore loser.

Loser Loser Loser na na na na na

Sore Loser Exhibit A:

On this very site only a couple short years ago:

"We will be number 1 test nation for the next 20 years"

- It lasted a whole year

"Australia is now in a West Indies type decline and will be lower than Bangladesh and Zimbabwe"

- we played off for the number 1 test playing nation with SA just last summer, and barring the idiotic "rotation policy" may nearly have got there (undeservedly or not).

"Cook and Trott will score thousands in the 2013 home Ashes"

- they didn't

"Anderson will be licking his lips the whole series against the (No Swearing Please) Aussie batsman and take 30 plus wickets at a sub 20 average, ditto Swan"

- they didn't.

"Ryan Harris will break down after one test...hahaha"

- he didn't

"Steve Smith is a joke, will be lucky to make a run in the series as Anderson will destroy him".

- not quite.

.....then there were these pearls of wisdom...

Upon England being white-washed Pakistan...

"That Ajmal is a cheat..."

Prior to SA beating your brains in a home series in 2012...

"We will win this series 2-1"

- no you didn't

...need I go on hombres Palmist?

And yes I DO know your type well.

If Australia fluked an Ashes series win this summer (it would have to be a fluke because we are not good enough), I am 100% certain that blankbats.co.uk will be a Palmist free zone for at least 12 months as you go into a self imposed exile rather than face the music.

Cheers and all that!
Vic
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: rbblack on November 11, 2013, 10:22:22 AM
Got to love an Aussie backed into a corner. It's why playing you guys in (any) sport is my favourite match up.

Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: The Palmist on November 11, 2013, 05:08:58 PM
...need I go on hombres Palmist?

Look man...you lost and you were not the better team on the day. It happens even to the best [or those who think they are the best]. You may get your day probably by fluke as you have rightly mentioned yourself.

You do have a very appealing women's cricket team, let's give you that.
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on November 11, 2013, 08:04:15 PM
While wanting England to win again, I'm really not going to pretend we are that much better! Aussies nearly won two tests and the only real difference between the teams was a rampant Ian bell and less collapses (eng). Tbh, it'll be even closer this time and I think it really could go 2-1 either way
Title: Re: India v Aus
Post by: Vic Nicholas on November 12, 2013, 07:44:17 AM
While wanting England to win again, I'm really not going to pretend we are that much better! Aussies nearly won two tests and the only real difference between the teams was a rampant Ian bell and less collapses (eng). Tbh, it'll be even closer this time and I think it really could go 2-1 either way

Stop being a bloody pessimist!

England have the better batting line up, and by a fair way.

The better keeper/batsman - marginally, but still better.

The better spinner - by a long, long way.

Only in the fast bowling department are Australia anywhere near parity.

All things considered, England really should win and win well.

This last Northern summer, Australia were unlucky not to win a test or two, but we would have been unbelievably lucky to win the series.

The lucky breaks generally favour the better team.