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Re: India v Aus
« Reply #120 on: November 02, 2013, 04:15:33 PM »

Best odi series in a long time.  :D
Runs runs and more runs.
Odi's has always been about runs
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Re: India v Aus
« Reply #121 on: November 02, 2013, 05:05:09 PM »

"why did Australia bowl with five Ishants?" love it!
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Re: India v Aus
« Reply #122 on: November 02, 2013, 06:36:40 PM »

The double ton is a great achievement but one has to feel its a bit cheapened if Maxwell got 60 off 20 odd balls in the same game
Pun Intended...

I know exactly what you mean. In the same way Gayle's IPL 175 was cheapened by De Villiers 31 off 8 balls. Yes!
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Re: India v Aus
« Reply #123 on: November 03, 2013, 04:59:43 AM »

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/64061.html

This knock at MCG was his first back after he had been dropped. 195 in 70 test overs.


In a summer where Warne was suspended and McGrath was out with a heel injury.

As soon as he had to face quality bowling - he (No Swearing Please) his pants.

If Sehwag faced Akram, Waqar, Ambrose, Walsh, Donald, Pollock, McGrath, Gillespie, Gough and Caddick in the mid to late 90's and still averaged over 50 - I would dip my lid. However, whenever he came up anything resembling class bowling in his perfectly timed career, he (No Swearing Please) his pants.

At least Tendulkar and Dravid made runs against everybody, everywhere.

You have to respect that.
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Re: India v Aus
« Reply #124 on: November 03, 2013, 10:29:37 AM »

Fair cop.

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Re: India v Aus
« Reply #125 on: November 03, 2013, 02:59:14 PM »

In a summer where Warne was suspended and McGrath was out with a heel injury.

As soon as he had to face quality bowling - he (No Swearing Please) his pants.

If Sehwag faced Akram, Waqar, Ambrose, Walsh, Donald, Pollock, McGrath, Gillespie, Gough and Caddick in the mid to late 90's and still averaged over 50 - I would dip my lid. However, whenever he came up anything resembling class bowling in his perfectly timed career, he (No Swearing Please) his pants.

At least Tendulkar and Dravid made runs against everybody, everywhere.

You have to respect that.
What exactly did Warne ever bring to the table against India?

India smashed him around like he was a club bowler.
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Re: India v Aus
« Reply #126 on: November 03, 2013, 03:01:52 PM »

In a summer where Warne was suspended and McGrath was out with a heel injury.

As soon as he had to face quality bowling - he (No Swearing Please) his pants.

If Sehwag faced Akram, Waqar, Ambrose, Walsh, Donald, Pollock, McGrath, Gillespie, Gough and Caddick in the mid to late 90's and still averaged over 50 - I would dip my lid. However, whenever he came up anything resembling class bowling in his perfectly timed career, he (No Swearing Please) his pants.

At least Tendulkar and Dravid made runs against everybody, everywhere.

You have to respect that.
And how are you supposed to faced bowlers who have already retired before you've played a Test?
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Re: India v Aus
« Reply #127 on: November 04, 2013, 08:58:24 AM »

I'm a bit late on this, been away for the weekend, but I watched the highlights on Sky yesterday.

First the good; a double is a double and in an ODI, albeit on a track where you can score sixes with your eyes closed, that's a great effort.  Similarly Watson, Maxwell and Faulkner, great hitting...

Now the bad.  Am I the only one who thought that the behaviour of the Indians in the field was shocking?  I love Dhawan as a player and for his ability to sculpt facial hair, but he's gone down in my estimation as a person big time for his goading of Watson.  It looked, frankly, pathetic - absolutely no need for it.  Deliberately playing to the crowd and the watching millions on TV and setting a very poor example of how to behave on a cricket field.  In my opinion.

If you think he's feigning injury, just chat at him.  If he isn't (and the fact he came in low down clearly shows he was injured), why are you making fun of a player with a genuine injury?  I know many will disagree but I found all of that totally devoid of sportsmanship, class and humour.

The player's behaviour at the end of the game, I felt, also lacked class by leaving Faulkner standing there while they run off to celebrate on their own for a fair period of time.  It's all about winning I know and being happy at winning - but you should do it graciously.  These incidents, coupled with things you hear about the behaviour of some of the players generally seems like they are starting to believe their own press and hype - it smacks of arrogance and, in the whole scheme of the history of the game, none of these current players have left anywhere near a lasting legacy to justify their attitudes.  I think back to watching India play on the TV over the years with anticipation and joy - Kapil Dev, Gavaskar, ST, Dravid, VVS - amazing to watch and players who carried themselves with dignity and humility.  I saw none of that yesterday and Fletcher and Dhoni have to bear some responsibility for that.  As someone who has captained and managed teams previously, I believe your players play and behave as you demand.  I hope they both took the players to task for their behaviour.
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Re: India v Aus
« Reply #128 on: November 04, 2013, 09:01:18 AM »

Agree about Dhawan's behaviour but, since it was Watson, think he might deserve a bit of leeway.  Watson is, after all, a massive tit!
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Re: India v Aus
« Reply #129 on: November 04, 2013, 10:06:24 AM »

Yeah I'm totally in agreement. Doesn't matter how much you dislike your opponent, you should never wish to see anyone injured. A great example of this was when Joe Root was hit in the face by a ball in the T20 that went through his grill, the first person to run over and check if he was alright was David Warner. I too used to think very highly of Dhawan but that was awful behaviour.
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Re: India v Aus
« Reply #130 on: November 04, 2013, 10:29:44 AM »

I am not condoning Dhawan's behaviour but Watson had mocked him in the last match after he got out on 100. So Dhawan was just giving it back to him.
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Re: India v Aus
« Reply #131 on: November 04, 2013, 10:44:35 AM »

Watson has a pretty volatile character, I think he would fall out with himself if he was left alone.
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Re: India v Aus
« Reply #132 on: November 04, 2013, 10:50:16 AM »

Agree re; all Watson comments, 100% and I wasn't aware that Watson gave him some stick the previous game.

That said, is Dhawan going to do that to every player who sledges him?!  If so, he's going to do more talking and prancing around in his career than ST's scored international runs...

He looked ridiculous and I'd be embarrassed if I was him, Dhoni & Fletcher.  Kohli needs to reel his neck in as well...
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Re: India v Aus
« Reply #133 on: November 04, 2013, 12:47:08 PM »

What exactly did Warne ever bring to the table against India?

India smashed him around like he was a club bowler.

He made that 195 in a day against such modern day giants as Brett Lee, Nathan Bracken, Brad Williams and Stuart MacGill.

In a series where McGrath, Gillespie and Warne were all unavailable for different reasons, would you class the above as anything other than a 3rd rate Australian bowling line up?

I mean, seriously, but for limited overs cricket, I doubt any of you would have heard of the docile Nathan Bracken who bowled a scary 125kms at full pace and I am certain most of you have never heard of Brad Williams whatever the case.

As for Warne, India smashed him around like a club bowler in India in 1997 when he was coming back from a shoulder operation which forced him to change the way he bowled and to drop certain deliveries (like the flipper) forever.

In the series in India later that very year (after Sehwags 195), Warne took 14 wickets in 3 tests at 30.07. Had he not missed the last test with a broken finger on a rank turner (Michael Clarke took 6 for 9!!!), I am certain he would have broken the 20 wickets in the series mark at an average in the lower 20's.

So, I repeat, having McGrath, Gillespie and Warne with Lee as the third paceman rather than the main man, I very much doubt that the mentally fragile Sehwag would have accomplished much in that series.

Sehwag was spectacular to watch, but he was not a patch on Tendulkar, Dravid or even Laxman.
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Re: India v Aus
« Reply #134 on: November 04, 2013, 12:53:36 PM »

And how are you supposed to faced bowlers who have already retired before you've played a Test?

Sehwag massacred the Bangladesh's and Zimbabwe's of this world...but when confronted by anything resembling half decent bowling he went to water and was dropped.

He was then brought back in that series against Australia to face Lee, Bracken and Williams (surprise, surprise) where he did well.

He then feasted on the Bangla's Srio Lankans etc again...until he had to face a reasonable English attack in England and Australian attack a couple summers back - and he failed miserably.

They stuck by him for a while longer to beat up some minnows, then he faced Australia again this year on home doctored dead wickets...and he failed yet again.

His career is over now.

Matty Hayden has a similarly imposing record as Sehwag, but give me Michael Slater any day who faced off against Ambrose, Walsh, Waqar, Akram, Donald, Pollock, Gough, Caddick etc and made runs against them all.

There in lies my point.

Tendulkar, Dravid and co had the technique to perform against everybody, everywhere, Sehwag was a flat track bully.
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