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Cricket Manufacturers / Brands => Kippax Cricket => Topic started by: LDifa on December 16, 2013, 04:12:29 PM

Title: OMG new bat
Post by: LDifa on December 16, 2013, 04:12:29 PM
So the nice chaps at Kippax re-handled my Laver, and whilst there I was tempted with this monster, its huge and just 2lb 10oz with a very light pick up.

Will do a review when its used but here are the pics

(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b577/LDifa/Wavexspine_zpsf172deef.jpg) (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/LDifa/media/Wavexspine_zpsf172deef.jpg.html)

(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b577/LDifa/WavexFace_zpsce5435b9.jpg) (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/LDifa/media/WavexFace_zpsce5435b9.jpg.html)

(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b577/LDifa/WavexProfile2_zpse1825cec.jpg) (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/LDifa/media/WavexProfile2_zpse1825cec.jpg.html)

(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b577/LDifa/WavexProfile1_zps4a82628e.jpg) (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/LDifa/media/WavexProfile1_zps4a82628e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: GarrettJ on December 16, 2013, 04:28:24 PM
that is one monster edge!!! How does the wavy handle feel when you grip it?
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: LDifa on December 16, 2013, 04:42:01 PM
It feels fine, but I use spiral grips on most of my bats, this one has come with a Gray Nics style scale grip. 

I have nets tomorrow and will know a lot more once I have used it, I could not believe how light the pick up is.
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: uknsaunders on December 16, 2013, 06:15:03 PM
come on tell us the edge size  :D
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: mk_chappo on December 16, 2013, 06:23:07 PM
If those edges were any bigger they could brand they whole word 'Kippax' on there !
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: Northern monkey on December 16, 2013, 08:23:40 PM
2.10!!!!!

The bat looks huge for that weight,,,,?How does it tap up?

I've been tempted to visit kippax for a while now,,,,that bat looks very nice
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: LDifa on December 16, 2013, 11:17:42 PM
They had about 15 on display on the counter, all tapped up amazing, this just felt the lightest. Yes it taps up like a dream, but it has to as it is so big, the spine is about 55-58mm and the edges are 46mm, it's just a huge chunk of wood, something I didn't need and it is all the fault of this forum.
I didn't like the colossus sticker, or the one on the toe, but they removed them prior to knocking it in for me.

Used it for a few balls in the nets tonight and the ball just flies off the bat, very very happy with it
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: Northern monkey on December 18, 2013, 07:02:45 PM
Yeah,,,I know what you mean regarding this forum,,,,it's opened my eyes to so many bat suppliers,,,

The futures looking pretty good for uk bats
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: Alvaro on December 18, 2013, 09:33:44 PM
nice bat
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: mo_town on December 19, 2013, 03:15:22 PM
Woah!! Thats a monster!!
How much does one need to pay to get a monster like that?
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: Red Ink Cricket on December 19, 2013, 04:15:09 PM
am i the only one who thinks thats not huge, it just looks it. obviously chris has the pick of the willow in his stores so can pick out any light cleft he likes. yes its pretty big for the weight but its deceptive because of the way the edges taper towards the toe and shoulder and the fact that its pretty much all edge. would you still be thinking its that big if it only had 35-40mm edges? 55 mm spine isnt massive at all. its designed to give the impression of size as thats whats in demand atm.  personally id much prefer to see a bat with 35mm edges and 60-65mm plus spine. each to their own though.

chris certainly does churn out some nice bats, good that its a goer too!
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: LDifa on December 19, 2013, 07:02:44 PM
am i the only one who thinks thats not huge, it just looks it. obviously chris has the pick of the willow in his stores so can pick out any light cleft he likes. yes its pretty big for the weight but its deceptive because of the way the edges taper towards the toe  and shoulder and the fact that its pretty much all edge. would you still be thinking its that big if it only had 35-40mm edges? 55 mm spine isnt massive at all. its designed to give the impression of size as thats whats in demand atm.  personally id much prefer to see a bat with 35mm edges and 60-65mm plus spine. each to their own though.

chris certainly does churn out some nice bats, good that its a goer too!

It is big, even the toe is fairly thick, but does have more concaving than your Ltd edition bat I have, both ping and because they are thick where it counts the middles are massive, yours is truly good, so good and bespoke that I have lent it to one of my staff to try in the nets in the hope that he buys one from you :)
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: Chad on December 19, 2013, 07:14:58 PM
It is big, even the toe is fairly thick, but does have more concaving than your Ltd edition bat I have, both ping and because they are thick where it counts the middles are massive, yours is truly good, so good and bespoke that I have lent it to one of my staff to try in the nets in the hope that he buys one from you :)

Surely if you shaved off about 10mm off the edges at those areas and packed it in the middle, it would respond better! ;) I'm with John on this, in that 35mm edges are enough. You want a decent spine along with full profile, with a small amount of concaving, if any!
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: joeljonno on December 19, 2013, 07:18:19 PM
Does more wood = better performance?

If so, would it not be more beneficial to have an even amount of wood across the back of the bat? Giving the whole blade uniformity in performance?
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: Chad on December 19, 2013, 07:36:18 PM
Does more wood = better performance?

If so, would it not be more beneficial to have an even amount of wood across the back of the bat? Giving the whole blade uniformity in performance?

But you're meant to generally try middle the ball, so more wood in the middle would be ideal. Problem with hitting near the edge is that it isn't aligned with the handle, so will not give you a uniformity in performance. If you had a bat with a flat back, 35mm edge and spine, the bat will twist in your hands if you hit near the edge, therefore you lose the momentum into the shot. If you hit the centre though, you get a more efficient transfer of energy to the ball, so it goes further, so you may as well whack most of the wood there! People do like a big edge though!
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: procricket on December 19, 2013, 07:38:17 PM
Does more wood = better performance?

If so, would it not be more beneficial to have an even amount of wood across the back of the bat? Giving the whole blade uniformity in performance?

That the Newbery tour principle.

Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: ShinyCharizard 92 on December 19, 2013, 07:41:06 PM
Doesn't this remind you of the shape of the new GM 6Six ? And you will notice joe root uses this shape bat just not as much concaving. Went to the kippax factory yesterday picked myself out one and the rebound qualities are amazing. Just waiting for the new pads and gloves to come in stock at the end of the week and go pick them up along with another bat
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: Chad on December 19, 2013, 07:41:24 PM
That the Newbery tour principle.

Strangely enough though, the middle on mine is better than a lot of bats with higher spines… It is a strange one, it's basically a GN scoop, except with the scoop filled in!
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: procricket on December 19, 2013, 07:50:22 PM
Tour did not sell that well because it was hard to get quite a big one because of the eveness of the wood.

I guess it another perimeter powered bat.

This is a nice bat and indeed Mr Kippax and Leafy have some lovely willow.
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: Chad on December 20, 2013, 10:36:26 AM
Tour did not sell that well because it was hard to get quite a big one because of the eveness of the wood.

I guess it another perimeter powered bat.

This is a nice bat and indeed Mr Kippax and Leafy have some lovely willow.

True, I wonder what criteria the clefts have to tick off before becoming a 'Tour' cleft. I think mine has a 38mm edge, and the spine isn't much higher. It will be interesting to see how this compares to a Crown cleft, maybe I should ask the Doc… I'm sure that there can be bigger ones made, you just have to find an even lighter cleft to have it at a useable weight!

Anyways, back on topic, I'm sure you'll edge many a six with this bat! I've always wanted a bat with 3 edges! ;)
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: Red Ink Cricket on December 20, 2013, 11:03:53 AM
It is big, even the toe is fairly thick, but does have more concaving than your Ltd edition bat I have, both ping and because they are thick where it counts the middles are massive, yours is truly good, so good and bespoke that I have lent it to one of my staff to try in the nets in the hope that he buys one from you :)

sounds good to me mate. hope he likes it.

for me its just a personal preference, id much rather see wood in the spine and decent sized edges rather than huge edges and no spine. to me it just looks odd. but each to their own, they are just meeting the demand of the customers who crave the big edge fashion. i use a modern style profile myself but the edges are around 35mm and spine is a healthy 65mm plus. throw in a bit of concaving and it certainly packs a punch. 
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: Torque on December 22, 2013, 10:07:03 AM
How much did this set you back?
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: joeljonno on December 22, 2013, 10:34:09 AM

Anyways, back on topic, I'm sure you'll edge many a six with this bat! I've always wanted a bat with 3 edges! ;)

Outside edge, inside edge, bottom edge, most bats have these, or at least the ones I use do.  ;)
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: awp on December 22, 2013, 06:51:32 PM
sounds good to me mate. hope he likes it.

for me its just a personal preference, id much rather see wood in the spine and decent sized edges rather than huge edges and no spine. to me it just looks odd. but each to their own, they are just meeting the demand of the customers who crave the big edge fashion. i use a modern style profile myself but the edges are around 35mm and spine is a healthy 65mm plus. throw in a bit of concaving and it certainly packs a punch.
Gotta say im with you on this.  Theres a lot of 'profiles' around that appear designed more to capture the consumer than striking cricket balls.  The owner likes it and recons it goes so I guess thats all that matters.
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: Chad on December 23, 2013, 11:03:35 AM
Outside edge, inside edge, bottom edge, most bats have these, or at least the ones I use do.  ;)

By that logic, you should also have a top edge! ;) In all fairness, I find the edge so consistently I only need two!

Would it be possible to have a shot up from the toe to see the extent of concaving? Thanks!
Title: Re: OMG new bat
Post by: LDifa on December 29, 2013, 09:23:29 AM
By that logic, you should also have a top edge! ;) In all fairness, I find the edge so consistently I only need two!

Would it be possible to have a shot up from the toe to see the extent of concaving? Thanks!



took some time to get around to it, but here you go...

(http://i1292.photobucket.com/albums/b577/LDifa/Wavextoe2_zpsfae17cf4.jpg) (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/LDifa/media/Wavextoe2_zpsfae17cf4.jpg.html)