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Equipment => Gloves => Topic started by: Cowcorner on February 01, 2014, 04:03:36 PM

Title: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: Cowcorner on February 01, 2014, 04:03:36 PM
After reading the 'emperors new clothes' thread whilst doing a sort out of my softs I had a thought about where they are all made - for example the new SS and hunts county gloves look remarkably similar and unsurprisingly are made in the same factory. So, GM, hunts, h4l, GN, kook, mongoose, etc all appear to be made in some softs mega factory in India.....What I'm actually trying to ask, albeit quite badly, are any softs made in the UK? Or do we just make the occasional bat.....
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: Sam on February 01, 2014, 04:10:13 PM
From what I know yes they are (or perhaps Pakistan as well I'd have though?). I don't think a company would find it viable profit wise to get them made over here.
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: ItsJustCricket on February 01, 2014, 04:12:00 PM
All India and Pakistan, but mostly India.  Bags tend to come from China, although there are still some good ones made in India.
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: Cowcorner on February 01, 2014, 04:30:23 PM
It just seems odd to me that we champion English willow and pod shavers home grown in our lush counties but can't pull our fingers out of our bottoms to make anything else! We've got the raw materials - plenty of cows and sheep - add a bit of thread and hey presto! Softs!
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: toenails97 on February 01, 2014, 04:32:31 PM
It's the price of English labour which is why companies don't use England for softs
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: smilley792 on February 01, 2014, 04:35:30 PM
I think the only softs that could be made in England and work, would be if someone made one off bespoke softs at a high price.


Making in bulk would just make the price sky high and un competetive.
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: ItsJustCricket on February 01, 2014, 04:58:21 PM
Hopefully George "Stretton" Fox will add some gloves and pads to his portfolio soon! This way they will be made in England!
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: joeljonno on February 01, 2014, 05:00:53 PM
Sounds like a challenge.

I think I might cut up an old pair of gloves I have to see what is needed...
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: iand123 on February 01, 2014, 05:15:05 PM
My understanding is there are about 4/5 main factories in India that churn out a lot of the softs in the industry. Believe Pakistan also makes some as mentioned above
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: smilley792 on February 01, 2014, 05:15:49 PM
Try the right thread.


All I can find on YouTube to do with making them

http://youtu.be/eBYISQBkajw (http://youtu.be/eBYISQBkajw)

Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on February 01, 2014, 05:33:19 PM
If you assume the machinery costs are the same then really it's just the labour, and tbh, you should be able to get workers currently given there are a fair few people unemployed or on (No Swearing Please) zero day type contracts. Would just need the up front investment and knowledge
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: MD2812 on February 01, 2014, 05:47:09 PM
Problem would be you need skilled labourers or large training costs. If you pay minimum wage it's probably still more than Indian workers, and the staff you get here for minimum wage may not care about quality.
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: joeljonno on February 01, 2014, 06:00:35 PM
Around York there have been a number of bespoke tailors popping up.

If you could get them to do the needlework, they would be skilled. I wonder how much they would charge, or if they part owned the company, maybe not too expensive.

For instance, they could make a small number of bespoke items when not doing their main work.
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: GarrettJ on February 01, 2014, 06:04:58 PM
It's the price of English labour which is why companies don't use England for softs

3-0
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: toenails97 on February 01, 2014, 06:28:04 PM
3-0
Mate I'm over the moon! The lads definitely put a shift in!!
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: VKS on February 01, 2014, 06:51:33 PM
The amount of detailed work that goes into making a single glove or legguard is immense.
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: The Palmist on February 01, 2014, 07:28:41 PM
Just to give you an idea about labour costs when it comes to tailoring kind of work.
I paid 9 quids for my jeans to be altered, just length nothing fancy. I got the same job done on another pair for under a pound in India.
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: Cowcorner on February 01, 2014, 07:31:22 PM
Hopefully George "Stretton" Fox will add some gloves and pads to his portfolio soon! This way they will be made in England!

Do you know something we don't??
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: ItsJustCricket on February 01, 2014, 07:49:12 PM
Do you know something we don't??

No, I don't actually!
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: IQ on February 01, 2014, 09:25:40 PM
The amount of detailed work that goes into making a single glove or legguard is immense.

This.

Even the very skilled are unable to make too many per day. Very very time consuming.

A lot of workers in India work from home- part time etc where these are actually made.
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: IQ on February 01, 2014, 09:29:04 PM
Pak is Still far behind when it comes to softs(although in the last couple of years they have improved.)

A couple of well known Pak brands are getting their top softs, stickers and grips made in India! Not all but their top range.
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: joeljonno on February 01, 2014, 09:32:02 PM


Even the very skilled are unable to make too many per day. Very very time consuming.


Surely there is a way to speed up production. There are so many parts to a glove yet need not be.
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on February 01, 2014, 09:50:56 PM
It can't be that labour intensive when you consider how many are made per year !
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: Shamrock Cricket on February 01, 2014, 10:17:12 PM
I think 3 sets of gloves is the most a skilled worker can make in one day
Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: IQ on February 01, 2014, 10:22:37 PM
It can't be that labour intensive when you consider how many are made per year !

That's exactly what I meant - just goes to show how many people are making these.

There is not just factories making these. A lot of work is done by tons of people who do this in the background. Let me put it this way: there is at least TWICE as many part timers/ people working from home making these THAN the factories!



Title: Re: Are all softs made in India?
Post by: procricket on February 02, 2014, 12:28:08 AM
Pak is Still far behind when it comes to softs(although in the last couple of years they have improved.)

A couple of well known Pak brands are getting their top softs, stickers and grips made in India! Not all but their top range.

What I have been seeing recently I agree about pads but gloves think there just as good nowadays