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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: shoab68 on February 11, 2014, 01:40:12 PM
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For our Forum Custom Bat makers and Forum Retailers
Hi Guys,
Just wondering if anyone on this forum could make me a very special custom made bat, retailers can also look into their off shelf stock. Bat Specs are mentioned below.
Willow: Preferably Crown or any low density Grade 1 ( Very clean with out any blemishes) all sapwood
Grains: Minimum 12 perfect straight grains
Weight: Max 2.10
Edges: Minimum 42mm
Spine: As high as possible
Concaving: Zero or minimal
Profile: Any Good Profile (like Dhoni )
Bottom: Thick
Middle position: Mid to low
Handle: Strong Oval Handle
Blade: Slightly Bowed (preferably 1/4 inch longer than standard)
Pressing: Pressed to perfection (Light to medium)
Turn around time: 15 days
BUDGET
Preferably 350 GBP Could stretch up to 400
Thanks
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surely b3 is the best option? just send them that spec and they will blast something out on their computer.
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surely b3 is the best option? just send them that spec and they will blast something out on their computer.
Thanks Garret. Sounds good.
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that is going to take one special cleft to find that. 2.10 with a high spine 42mm edges and a longer blade with zero or minimal concaving. taking into consideration the grip, binding and stickers probably add 2-3 oz thats going to be a massive bat for that weight.
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which of those can you compromise?
You may have to for that weight.
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That's one hell of a rider!
See if you can get the moon on a stick as well... ;)
I now have visions of forum sponsors and batmakers on a Lord of the Rings-type quest for the magical willow trail at the end of the earth. You can't miss it, it glows gold and any ball that it smites blazes a fire trail to the boundary
I would also suggest B3 and I would suggest you'll be looking at crown grade.
That will be one heck of a bat if you find it...
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with a 35mm edge it would be a lot easier
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would you use a bat like this? there is nothing to say it will perform any better than any other bat.
what does soft to medium pressing mean?
I appreciate it is your money to spend how you want and to try to get a bat like this, but frankly you have just as much chance scoring a hundred with one of Aldred's glorious butterfly bats.
p.s. sorry for being grumpy - you should want to dream of a bat like this - we all do really!!
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i have a 2.7oz with 35mm edge 65mm spine adn 10 -12 grains with a perfect face ............. so I think this will be easy to make ......... especially if it is 42mm edge and 50mm spine.
basically just all edge and no meat to the back like a kippax collossus.
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What does "strong" oval handle mean?
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ryan
doesnt your laminate fit the bill ...... seems close from the pictures i saw
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i would imagine it means a more pronounced oval shape.
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which of those can you compromise?
You may have to for that weight.
Longer blade and spine height could be compromised.
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That's one hell of a rider!
See if you can get the moon on a stick as well... ;)
I now have visions of forum sponsors and batmakers on a Lord of the Rings-type quest for the magical willow trail at the end of the earth. You can't miss it, it glows gold and any ball that it smites blazes a fire trail to the boundary
I would also suggest B3 and I would suggest you'll be looking at crown grade.
That will be one heck of a bat if you find it...
No harm in trying, Everyone suggesting B3, I will wait for couple of days for others opinion and probably will give a shout to B3.
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i have a 2.7oz with 35mm edge 65mm spine adn 10 -12 grains with a perfect face ............. so I think this will be easy to make ......... especially if it is 42mm edge and 50mm spine.
basically just all edge and no meat to the back like a kippax collossus.
for me a 50mm spine isnt high, particularly with the massive edges you would just have a bat with all edge and no spine. 50mm would be a high spine with 20-25mm edges. 42mm edges with a 65-70mm spine i would say would be the minimum to be high. with no concaving thats pretty much impossible unless you over dry a cleft or find a one in a million cleft. i think there needs to be some form of compromising with this.
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he doesnt say he wants a high spine, just as high as possible .... and like you say a high spine doesnt seem possible based on the other requests.
I think given this is the one variable that he has not stated that he must have exact then this is where the batmaker has leeway to fit it in under 2.10.
my thoughts are it would be like a newberry tour to meet the 42mm edges and 2.10 weight.
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would you use a bat like this? there is nothing to say it will perform any better than any other bat.
what does soft to medium pressing mean?
I appreciate it is your money to spend how you want and to try to get a bat like this, but frankly you have just as much chance scoring a hundred with one of Aldred's glorious butterfly bats.
p.s. sorry for being grumpy - you should want to dream of a bat like this - we all do really!!
It is okay Buzz, you are free to express your opinion. Soft to medium pressing mean not pressed hard, probably i used wrong words . If it will not play well then it will rest in my drawing room showcase where plenty are already resting. :)
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he doesnt say he wants a high spine, just as high as possible .... and like you say a high spine doesnt seem possible based on the other requests.
I think given this is the one variable that he has not stated that he must have exact then this is where the batmaker has leeway to fit it in under 2.10.
my thoughts are it would be like a newberry tour to meet the 42mm edges and 2.10 weight.
Spot on mate.
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What does "strong" oval handle mean?
I change it to thick oval handle.
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i would imagine it means a more pronounced oval shape.
correct.
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for me a 50mm spine isnt high, particularly with the massive edges you would just have a bat with all edge and no spine. 50mm would be a high spine with 20-25mm edges. 42mm edges with a 65-70mm spine i would say would be the minimum to be high. with no concaving thats pretty much impossible unless you over dry a cleft or find a one in a million cleft. i think there needs to be some form of compromising with this.
Spine height could be compromised but not edges, that's why i mentioned spine as high as possible.
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Bottom: Thick
Are you Sir Mixalot? I hear he likes this kind of thing.
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I have a cleft in at the moment that is currently 3.8oz in rae form which is light. But doesn't have 12 dead straight grains, I don't know if that's of any interest.
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WOW that is one heelll of a bat by these spec :)
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shoab68 since you are willing to pay that kind of money there is no harm in asking for what you want and see whats on offer...
I would also like to recommend getting in touch with Matt at H4L, Matt gets oversized clefts and what you are looking for could be accomplished using a light/low density oversized cleft...worth a shot in my opinion...
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Spine height could be compromised but not edges, that's why i mentioned spine as high as possible.
I agree with Tush.
I've had two Tempo's from Matt @H4L and they seem to be the profile you have described, less the thick edges.
Speak to Matt.
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Isn't the Affinity Persona made to measure from a over-sized cleft? Just give Marcus a call.
As with any of the pod-shavers on here, I'm sure they'd love to rise to the challenge. I don't think you'd be disappointment with any tbh.
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Hello.
I have some suitable bats, many either have fewer grains than you are looking for, or are slightly heavier, or are not quite the right middle position etc. I have a beautiful Slazenger V12 from the original run of 200 that matches everything really, aside from having slightly more modest edges, and 8/9 grains. Same with a Bubble Players i have, this one has suitable edges, and dead straight grains, but only 8 of them. Some of these 4 below don't match everything, but come close to your spec though:
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All 4 weigh 2'10
The Purist is a 42/43mm edge. Argon is 41mm. The two TON bats are 40mm. Argon and the TONs have thinner handles. TONs are oval, Argon is semi-oval. The Purist has a thick semi oval. Maybe the Purist has a middle a touch higher than you are looking at, but it has offset edges to provide a longer middle.
The Purist and Argon are £399. The TON bats are £285. Free delivery, and in the case of the TON bats, free knocking in.
You may be able to get exactly what you want from a custom made bat, and i am sure there are some forum sponsors out there who will be very well placed to help, as well as other companies of course. But clefts/bats like that come along only so often. I've had 3 or 4 pass through my hands since we opened in 2011. Please send me a pm if anything i have tickles your fancy.
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Isn't the Affinity Persona made to measure from a over-sized cleft? Just give Marcus a call.
As with any of the pod-shavers on here, I'm sure they'd love to rise to the challenge. I don't think you'd be disappointment with any tbh.
anything here take your fancy?
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=28487.msg447830#msg447830 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=28487.msg447830#msg447830)
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For our Forum Custom Bat makers and Forum Retailers
Hi Guys,
Just wondering if anyone on this forum could make me a very special custom made bat, retailers can also look into their off shelf stock. Bat Specs are mentioned below.
Willow: Preferably Crown or any low density Grade 1 ( Very clean with out any blemishes) all sapwood
Grains: Minimum 12 perfect straight grains
Weight: Max 2.10
Edges: Minimum 42mm
Spine: As high as possible
Concaving: Zero or minimal
Profile: Any Good Profile (like Dhoni )
Bottom: Thick
Middle position: Mid to low
Handle: Strong Oval Handle
Blade: Slightly Bowed (preferably 1/4 inch longer than standard)
Pressing: Pressed to perfection (Light to medium)
Turn around time: 15 days
BUDGET
Preferably 350 GBP Could stretch up to 400
Thanks
B3 only if i totally honest if you want a totally bespoke bat to the silly degree B3 is possibly the only option...
If you need any info as a crown owner and user i can help you out mate..
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In the interests of bespoke vs off the shelf, one of those TONs Jake has posted is mahoosive...
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What about a laver and putting it through the secondary drying process? ???
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why would you require and another bat mate???..having all those top brands from SCat ,Salix to Lavers????? ... lolz .. keep us posted on this mate D
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louisville slugger :-[
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I have a cleft in at the moment that is currently 3.8oz in rae form which is light. But doesn't have 12 dead straight grains, I don't know if that's of any interest.
Thanks Ryan, let me see what others have to offer, will contact you if i don't get anything good.
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WOW that is one heelll of a bat by these spec :)
Definitely it would be if someone could make it.
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shoab68 since you are willing to pay that kind of money there is no harm in asking for what you want and see whats on offer...
I would also like to recommend getting in touch with Matt at H4L, Matt gets oversized clefts and what you are looking for could be accomplished using a light/low density oversized cleft...worth a shot in my opinion...
Thanks Tushar, I will definitely check H4L guys.
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Isn't the Affinity Persona made to measure from a over-sized cleft? Just give Marcus a call.
As with any of the pod-shavers on here, I'm sure they'd love to rise to the challenge. I don't think you'd be disappointment with any tbh.
Thanks for advice mate. I will send an email to Affinity.
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Hello.
I have some suitable bats, many either have fewer grains than you are looking for, or are slightly heavier, or are not quite the right middle position etc. I have a beautiful Slazenger V12 from the original run of 200 that matches everything really, aside from having slightly more modest edges, and 8/9 grains. Same with a Bubble Players i have, this one has suitable edges, and dead straight grains, but only 8 of them. Some of these 4 below don't match everything, but come close to
All 4 weigh 2'10
The Purist is a 42/43mm edge. Argon is 41mm. The two TON bats are 40mm. Argon and the TONs have thinner handles. TONs are oval, Argon is semi-oval. The Purist has a thick semi oval. Maybe the Purist has a middle a touch higher than you are looking at, but it has offset edges to provide a longer middle.
The Purist and Argon are £399. The TON bats are £285. Free delivery, and in the case of the TON bats, free knocking in.
You may be able to get exactly what you want from a custom made bat, and i am sure there are some forum sponsors out there who will be very well placed to help, as well as other companies of course. But clefts/bats like that come along only so often. I've had 3 or 4 pass through my hands since we opened in 2011. Please send me a pm if anything i have tickles your fancy.
Thanks Jake,
I will wait for few days and then decide, so give me some time. Your bats looks good, Ton bats a deffo no because i need UK made but GM i might consider.
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B3 only if i totally honest if you want a totally bespoke bat to the silly degree B3 is possibly the only option...
If you need any info as a crown owner and user i can help you out mate..
Thanks mate. Think you are the right person to discuss about crown willow as you own it. How do you rate crown willow and how does it differs than other willows. I heard that B3 service is not great and their response to mails are poor.
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In the interests of bespoke vs off the shelf, one of those TONs Jake has posted is mahoosive...
Ton bats ruled out as looking for UK made.
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What about a laver and putting it through the secondary drying process? ???
Will sound odd but not a fan of Laver, got a signature which is not extraordinary, just my personal opinion.
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[quote author=shoab68 link=topic=28937.msg455545#msg455545 date=1392136815 If it will not play well then it will rest in my drawing room showcase where plenty are already resting. :)
why would you require and another bat mate???..having all those top brands from SCat ,Salix to Lavers????? ... lolz .. keep us posted on this mate D
Hunger is getting bigger and bigger mate.
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Thanks mate. Think you are the right person to discuss about crown willow as you own it. How do you rate crown willow and how does it differs than other willows. I heard that B3 service is not great and their response to mails are poor.
I have 3 b3s and there is 4 more at our club now, service has been spot on every time!
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I have 3 b3s and there is 4 more at our club now, service has been spot on every time!
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One of my friend sent an email enquiring for a custom made bat, no response, sent reminder also, so far they have not replied.
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Just got my 2 back from last year takes me up to my compliment
Mate seriously there good bats and there service is 2nd to none I would ring them direct mate I can't give you there personal numbers if you like.
Service well that's what attracted me to them to be honest initially and think they do a great job and I suspect there possibly the biggest movers in the industry at present and that can only speak volumes about them.
I but there bats because I think there the best and think they can nail your specs 100 per cent
Dave
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Dave, you need to branch out on the colours.
My colour variance
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No crown Chris.
Nope stick to the same colour not don't me know harm bud.
1300 runs with the 2 older ones only issue now is which one to use..
Great bats 3 of them 3 stripe 1 crown and a special.
New red sticker is cool too.
Good bats indeed and one of the biggest movers in 2013.
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No crown Chris.
My bats are too heavy to utilise a crown cleft :-(
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Just got my 2 back from last year takes me up to my compliment
Mate seriously there good bats and there service is 2nd to none I would ring them direct mate I can't give you there personal numbers if you like.
Service well that's what attracted me to them to be honest initially and think they do a great job and I suspect there possibly the biggest movers in the industry at present and that can only speak volumes about them.
I but there bats because I think there the best and think they can nail your specs 100 per cent
Dave
Thank you so much Dave, your collection of B3 is awesome. I would be in touch and really appreciate your help. Could you please tell something about crown willow.
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Dave, you need to branch out on the colours.
My colour variance
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wow, they all looks great. Did they perform as well as they appears?
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wow, they all looks great. Did they perform as well as they appears?
Very much so, the pink one is the best bat I've ever used.
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Crown willow is simple mate it is the lowest density willow possibly and reserved in the back office and only a hand full have them.
My Trott bat weight is 2-6 and the wood ratio for size is around 2-12 so you get a much bigger bat..
My and b3 first serial bat the 1000 is made out of the stuff as well they just did not do the stickers then you get a massive bat for the weight and in performance terms there up therewith anything.
Chris Easby the old CE bat maker has seen both mine and was amazed both went like and still do like fire crackers..
I used to buy lots of bats i do not need to anymore.i use one brand not because i get them cheaper or anything i use them because there the best i have used and i have to be honest i have used most.
I'm not saying others don't make great bats because they do i just get what i want and the consistency in all my B3 bats is the same quality
In fact 4 people of this forum have seen or i have let use my crown not one of them would say anything different.
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Dave did you find they were both special bats from the start or did they take some playing in?
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Ask toenails and 123 they even tried my crown before me…
From the start mate and the other two new ones have started in the same vain.
I'm sorry i sound like a salesman i must stress i do not work or anything for them i just found them at the start and they have always given me what i want..
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Very much so, the pink one is the best bat I've ever used.
To me not only pink they all looks wonderful mate, really i mean it.
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I was at B3 on Monday, picking up some keeping gloves and talking about crown clefts. Theirs are true pro level bats. Streaky said his main issue with the gm players bats they sold when he was there was that they weren't/aren't player grade willow. Same shapes but not pro willow. He has a point!
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Crown willow is simple mate it is the lowest density willow possibly and reserved in the back office and only a hand full have them.
My Trott bat weight is 2-6 and the wood ratio for size is around 2-12 so you get a much bigger bat..
My and b3 first serial bat the 1000 is made out of the stuff as well they just did not do the stickers then you get a massive bat for the weight and in performance terms there up therewith anything.
Chris Easby the old CE bat maker has seen both mine and was amazed both went like and still do like fire crackers..
I used to buy lots of bats i do not need to anymore.i use one brand not because i get them cheaper or anything i use them because there the best i have used and i have to be honest i have used most.
I'm not saying others don't make great bats because they do i just get what i want and the consistency in all my B3 bats is the same quality
In fact 4 people of this forum have seen or i have let use my crown not one of them would say anything different.
very well explained Dave, thanks a lot. I know you have plenty of bats and if you are appreciating B3 then definitely they are worth buying.
Considering your good relationship with them, could you please discuss my requirement and arrange this specialty bat to be made of Crown Willow
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Yes i could very much mate i will pm you mate.
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I was at B3 on Monday, picking up some keeping gloves and talking about crown clefts. Theirs are true pro level bats. Streaky said his main issue with the gm players bats they sold when he was there was that they weren't/aren't player grade willow. Same shapes but not pro willow. He has a point!
so one more vote goes to B3. Probably i would end up going with B3.
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Yes i could very much mate i will pm you mate.
Thanks Dave, i appreciate. Will wait for pm.
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Have got to agree with Dave on this one. Having seen the Trott in the flesh I couldn't believe the size of the bat to what it actually weighed, I didn't believe it was less than 2.11 even though the pick up was so well balanced. Looking down at the bat has to install some sort of confidence that whenever you connect with the ball it will go. The bat feels great in the hands and the handle is a work of art too. I have bugged Dave for 6 months about buying it off him but since it's been refurbished I haven't got a cat in hells chance.
Dave's Trott B3 is definitely the Lionel Messi of bats I've seen and I would be very surprised if I get a bat of that quality pass through my hands.
If I had the money and the ability I wouldn't hesitate in shelling out for one identical shape to that.
Shoab68 - if you are serious about taking the plunge of a B3, I'm sure Dave will sort you out something really special, B3 is like his second home!
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Just as a matter of interest, I've been told these clefts don't last as long. Is there any truth in that?
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I think Dave's has scored circa 1200 runs, I'm sure he will correct me.
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Well mine had 1000 runs through my crown and as shown in this thread I think it look and plays as well as ever after a mot mate. Look in the other thread it has a few surface cracks especially around the middle and had a couple of downing joints near the toe after I tried to wallop a few Yorkers mate
Chris my other one has had 300 through it
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Have got to agree with Dave on this one. Having seen the Trott in the flesh I couldn't believe the size of the bat to what it actually weighed, I didn't believe it was less than 2.11 even though the pick up was so well balanced. Looking down at the bat has to install some sort of confidence that whenever you connect with the ball it will go. The bat feels great in the hands and the handle is a work of art too. I have bugged Dave for 6 months about buying it off him but since it's been refurbished I haven't got a cat in hells chance.
Dave's Trott B3 is definitely the Lionel Messi of bats I've seen and I would be very surprised if I get a bat of that quality pass through my hands.
If I had the money and the ability I wouldn't hesitate in shelling out for one identical shape to that.
Shoab68 - if you are serious about taking the plunge of a B3, I'm sure Dave will sort you out something really special, B3 is like his second home!
Yeah, i am in touch with Dave now.
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Quick update on this,
Finally decided to go with B3 and placed the order, they are making this bat using a crown cleft. Thanks for all the offers and advice.
I would like to thank Dave (procricket) for all the guidance and support. Will upload pics with review once it is ready.
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Quick update on this,
Finally decided to go with B3 and placed the order, they are making this bat using a crown cleft. Thanks for all the offers and advice.
I would like to thank Dave (procricket) for all the guidance and support. Will upload pics with review once it is ready.
That is good news:) i am sure they will make a stunner for you ..
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That is good news:) i am sure they will make a stunner for you ..
Yup i am sure it will be a stunner, fingers crossed. :)
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Quick update on this B3 bat.
Just received this bat from B3. This is a real stunner, I will make a separate post for this bat with pics and my honest review, just wait for a day or two.
I am sure you guys must be interested in seeing the pics and my review.
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Quick update on this B3 bat.
Just received this bat from B3. This is a real stunner, I will make a separate post for this bat with pics and my honest review, just wait for a day or two.
I am sure you guys must be interested in seeing the pics and my review.
Your a tease mate ;)
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This has to be one of the most eagerly awaited topics?ha
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Quick update on this B3 bat.
Just received this bat from B3. This is a real stunner, I will make a separate post for this bat with pics and my honest review, just wait for a day or two.
I am sure you guys must be interested in seeing the pics and my review.
Start us off with a couple of pics, we can wait for the review 😉
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Having seen the bat in the flesh it's a beauty - I would've been tempted myself to splash the cash on it!
Shoab - if it ever becomes available let Dave know to tell me - probably too good for my use!
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Start us off with a couple of pics, we can wait for the review 😉
Okay, I will post pics now and review tomorrow.
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You have designed a very nice shape shoab Union Jack stickers on route too.
Please could I see a picture of it next to the special ss you have too
Dave
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Having seen the bat in the flesh it's a beauty - I would've been tempted myself to splash the cash on it!
Shoab - if it ever becomes available let Dave know to tell me - probably too good for my use!
Thanks mate. I am loving this one. I doubt if it will be available for anyone except me in near future-- :)
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Okay, I will post pics now and review tomorrow.
Good man
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You have designed a very nice shape shoab Union Jack stickers on route too.
Please could I see a picture of it next to the special ss you have too
Dave
Thanks Dave, without your help it would not been possible. I will definitely post pics of both bats together but tonight only B3 as Ton is gone to a friend who has taken it for copying it. :) Tomorrow TON and B3 pics together.
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Where are the pictures ?