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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Blank Bats on March 02, 2014, 08:23:24 PM
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What deciding factors come into play when you are buying your next bat?
Do you think a bats price is relative to it's performance?
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well I reach for my phone, go to blank bats on speed dial and say best you've got around 2 10 please, oval handle *
how hard can it be;)
*there are other sponsors, I have others on speed dial, but as the double b's started the topic...!
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In order:
Where it's coming from, shape, pickup, blemishes, price, weight, brand.
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well I reach for my phone, go to blank bats on speed dial and say best you've got around 2 10 please, oval handle *
how hard can it be;)
*there are other sponsors, I have others on speed dial, but as the double b's started the topic...!
You are one of the more fortunate ones tho sir Buzz 😉
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Bit upset you have not renewed my full sponsorship really Tai so not sure although it was not bats so not sure
Well it comes down to finding who made the bat then getting the best deal for your money unless your rich then to hell with it just but the most expensive
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It should always start with, does it suit my game?
Once you have a short list of bats that suit your game base the choice on the best you can afford.
And yes, based on the performance of my M&H Amplus I believe performance is relative to price. The bat is incredible.
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i work out my budget and then have a look round to see what on offer. a lot of the time i wait until the end of the season and see what is being sold off
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Price has never been a indication of quality
You can knock a bat up any way you like initially that does not Guarentee performance either
All this handpicking do the people who do it use different balls on the same bat also do it in different environments as some rooms have better acoustics than others
Price has no real correlation with just performance because performance can not be guaranteed no matter how well it taps up.
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I still fear people on here are buying £300 bats on here just because they are £300 bats
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It is always a pleasure to give my business to a fellow entrepreneur. I prefer to support those disrupting, challenging, going alone.
I know I'll always get a good enough bat pretty much wherever I go.
For me it's down to the person and service.
If i like someone they will get my business. If they look after me, they will get my recommendation.
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Price has never been a indication of quality
You can knock a bat up any way you like initially that does not Guarentee performance either
All this handpicking do the people who do it use different balls on the same bat also do it in different environments as some rooms have better acoustics than others
Price has no real correlation with just performance because performance can not be guaranteed no matter how well it taps up.
Performance may be down to the individual too. One player could get hundreds of runs with their favourite stick, while their mate might not be able to hit it off the square using the same bat!
There are too many variables to accurately measure performance.
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It is always a pleasure to give my business to a fellow entrepreneur. I prefer to support those disrupting, challenging, going alone.
I know I'll always get a good enough bat pretty much wherever I go.
For me it's down to the person and service.
If i like someone they will get my business. If they look after me, they will get my recommendation.
You should try getting a custom made Salix mate ;)
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Customer services! I will not buy from anyone that doesn't treat me as there number one customer.
My first port of contact will always be the email given on the bat makers website. If I receive no reply, they do not get my money. Ever.
If they aren't gonna be bothered to reply to one that can make them money, they aren't gonna reply to one that wants a issue resolving.
And don't give me crap about "use a phone". It's 2014 not 1970. If you aren't gonna reply to emails, don't put an email address on your "contact us" site.
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In order:
Where it's coming from, shape, pickup, blemishes, price, weight, brand.
Are you not worried about performance at all Cameron ?
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Price has never been a indication of quality
You can knock a bat up any way you like initially that does not Guarentee performance either
All this handpicking do the people who do it use different balls on the same bat also do it in different environments as some rooms have better acoustics than others
Price has no real correlation with just performance because performance can not be guaranteed no matter how well it taps up.
Disagree, as with pretty much everything in life, the more you pay the better you get.
My experience isn't based on tapping a ball on a bat in a shop, it's based on using a bat over a decent period of time. It may just be a coincidence, but the more I pay for a bat the better it performs. The Amplus I have now is miles better than any bat I have ever used, and I have used a few over the past 20 years.
I stand by my previous comment. Choose a type of bat that suits your game, the spend the most you can afford.
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You should try getting a custom made Salix mate ;)
I've emailed salix regarding info about 12 times over the last 4years. A reply every time, they are such a pleasant bunch to deal with.
Customer service is bob on.
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You should try getting a custom made Salix mate ;)
Why spend that much when I can get a product which gives me the same outcome for £120/£150.
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Are you not worried about performance at all Cameron ?
If its the right shape for your game and picks up nicely you'll score runs with it.
As far as performance goes I've never had a totally dead bat, some just take more time in the nets before they "open up".
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interesting theory.
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main factor is price.After that pick up/feel and customer service
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Disagree, as with pretty much everything in life, the more you pay the better you get.
My experience isn't based on tapping a ball on a bat in a shop, it's based on using a bat over a decent period of time. It may just be a coincidence, but the more I pay for a bat the better it performs. The Amplus I have now is miles better than any bat I have ever used, and I have used a few over the past 20 years.
I stand by my previous comment. Choose a type of bat that suits your game, the spend the most you can afford.
I could show to a grade 2 kg which out performs bats that cost twice as much even 3 times
Ask ryan a batmaker he will agree. Think the 40 bats I have bought over the last 3 years I know bats. Only reason I stuck to one brand now is I know the consistent quality I'm getting.
Maybe I have a inside track so your telling me grade 1 willow plays better than grade 2
Rubbish mate that what if I told you I could get a similar shape to the amplus for less than 200 quid
Is that worst than your because it it cheaper even if it pressed in he same place
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interesting theory.
Not everyone will agree with me, but how do you measure performance of a bat on the shelf or just sent to you?
Without knocking it in you can't possibly make a judgement on performance, can you?
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interesting
A plethora of subjective thoughts.
It's the result of a very well placed 'open question'.
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Right my point
If a certain maker in Sussex makes for brand a who sell the bat for 400 quid
Then another brand with smaller overheads gets the same bat made in the same place for 250 which one you going to buy
Is the 400 quid bat better??
Is it hell
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Here's a challenge..... Anyone of you that's paid £300 plus for your number one match bat I bet we can match it or better it for £225 just to prove that price doesn't factor how good a bat is......
Or maybe we should just put our prices up 😉
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Right my point
If a certain maker in Sussex makes for brand a who sell the bat for 400 quid
Then another brand with smaller overheads gets the same bat made in the same place for 250 which one you going to buy
Is the 400 quid bat better??
Is it hell
My point exactly.......
I guess it's those expensive stickers that make the bat better 😉
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I don't believe price indicates performance. I believe it just indicates how pretty it looks. Plus, I think a few brands now are just jumping on the bandwagon of 'people will pay it so let's charge it'. Good business maybe but no indication of quality of bat
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I agree with 'procricket'.
A mutual friend, Combined Services Wk and 'Bleep', with many years top level cricket told me that he never buys a G1.
He plays(ed) at the top level and is now a coach with (IMHO) a great career ahead of him.
It's an opinion we (procricket, our friend, and I) share, but so long as you base your's on knowledge, passion, and belief, you are fine.
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I agree with 'procricket'.
A mutual friend, Combined Services Wk and 'Bleep', with many years top level cricket told me that he never buys a G1.
He plays(ed) at the top level and is now a coach with (IMHO) a great career ahead of him.
It's an opinion we (procricket, our friend, and I) share, but so long as you base your's on knowledge, passion, and belief, you are fine.
unless you can get what is being sold as grade 1 by a batmaker that another company can get and sell at grade 2 prices??
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Right my point
If a certain maker in Sussex makes for brand a who sell the bat for 400 quid
Then another brand with smaller overheads gets the same bat made in the same place for 250 which one you going to buy
Is the 400 quid bat better??
Is it hell
Exactly Dave, but people still go for example for the Amplus due to the stickers and heritage of the company which is fine. People on here know better though and know that you can get the very same bat from aleast 2 sponsors on here for, like you say, around £250.
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Pick up and balance for me. Always wear a set of gloves when picking out a new bat. Once I'm happy with how it feels in my hands a few tap ups of an old ball ideally if not mallet. Price looks etc to me is irrelevant.
It's nice to have amazing looking bats and well finished and that's my personal choice but no guarantee it will equal performance. Finally I have to know or trust the maker or retailer also to make it a guarantee match bat.
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Exactly Dave, but people still go for example for the Amplus due to the stickers and heritage of the company which is fine. People on here know better though and know that you can get the very same bat from aleast 2 sponsors on here for, like you say, around £250.
As Kieron eludes to. On here we know (for example only) that a 400 Salix blah blah bat can be brought from another bat maker/sponsor for almost half the price and be just as good. However most more normal people just think 'reputable brand - check, do I like the stickers - check is the middle in the right ish place - check and finally if I pay top wack it'll be the best.
I think it's as simple as that for most bat buyers
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Pick up and balance for me. Always wear a set of gloves when picking out a new bat. Once I'm happy with how it feels in my hands a few tap ups of an old ball ideally if not mallet. Price looks etc to me is irrelevant.
It's nice to have amazing looking bats and well finished and that's my personal choice but no guarantee it will equal performance. Finally I have to know or trust the maker or retailer also to make it a guarantee match bat.
All great and valid point Chris..
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The premium price paid on a bat is generally due to its appearance, and more recently size to weight ratio.
But that still does not guarantee performance.
For me pressing contributes the most to the playability of a bat.
There is no reason why Grade 2/3/4 bats cannot play superbly. Blemishes which do not interfere with the pressing and don't appear in the main hitting area are fine, and in my opinion offer exceptional value.
But we are bat nerds on this forum first and foremost so look for perfection.
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Here's a challenge..... Anyone of you that's paid £300 plus for your number one match bat I bet we can match it or better it for £225 just to prove that price doesn't factor how good a bat is......
Or maybe we should just put our prices up 😉
Yet you quoted me 320 for a bat Ryan made for 180?
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Is the whole oversized low density cleft costing more thing just a myth?
I have seen a number of M&H bats that team mates have (Master and Distinction) plus my own (Amplus) that don't look top draw but all play incredibly well. None of us bought on looks, we bought on the expected high performance which in all cases has proved to be so.
So, are we paying extra for these clefts? Or is the whole thing smoke and mirrors?
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the top m&h bats are superb but the same alleged bat maker also subcontracts himself out to smaller brands so in theory they should be the same.
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Is the whole oversized low density cleft costing more thing just a myth?
I have seen a number of M&H bats that team mates have (Master and Distinction) plus my own (Amplus) that don't look top draw but all play incredibly well. None of us bought on looks, we bought on the expected high performance which in all cases has proved to be so.
So, are we paying extra for these clefts? Or is the whole thing smoke and mirrors?
It is no myth Steve there hard to come by so the cost is higher.
As some on here know the weight of said low dencity clefts they are different but you do not see many with 20 grains
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The above 225 refers to our stock bats, it wouldn't have included any customisation.
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Is the whole oversized low density cleft costing more thing just a myth?
In my experience it's true.
I spent hours rifling through H4L's raw and handled clefts looking for such a beast.
At times I thought I was hunting Nessie, until I found it.
If I want to sell a H4L, all I do is let someone use my match bat for a few and kapow.
Find one......
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About time we started talking about bats the market again.
Great topic always have difference of opinion.
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Scarce = higher price
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You got looks added in for free FE
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Low density clefts are all well and good, but they've still got to be pressed right.
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It is no myth Steve there hard to come by so the cost is higher.
As some on here know the weight of said low dencity clefts they are different but you do not see many with 20 grains
So are the Master, Amplus and Distinction made from these rare clefts? Is that why they are so expensive?
I hope so as that is what I have bought into!
I might add that I asked a batmaker to make an Amplus replica weighing 2.9 for a little under £200 at the start of last season. Basically he said it couldn't be done.
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A team mate asked ne if i'd help get a new bat sorted last month
He plumped for a custom copied gm halo grade 1 at 225.00 from warsop
Whilst we were picking it up we asked tony about different batmakers and he said its all to do with how a bat is pressed,providing you are working with quality raw materials
So in my opinion it does matter who makes the bat
Having said that i love salix bats but cannot afford and would no longer spent 300 quid on one
I have a 60 quid bat off this forum.
My other team mate has an amplus because hes rich and thinks they are the best you can get
It doesnt help him play any better but he's happy with it.
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Slight change on the topic, do you think bat size matters?
I have had some seriously stonking bats that were thin wafers by today's standards.
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Slight change on the topic, do you think bat size matters?
I have had some seriously stonking bats that were thin wafers by today's standards.
Guess it depends on hand / eye co-ordination the bigger the bat sometimes = more confidence (could all be psychological of course).
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In the last year, I have had over 30 bats. All different brands, prices, pick ups and shapes have passed through my hands. Laminates, TAS, Carbon Fibre handles etc.
The most fun I have had is with one of Asad's £99 MB Malik LE Laminate Bats in the nets today. I know they are not legal, and I know I cannot play a game with them but in the nets, but when you dispatch your overseas opening bowler who bowls 80mph-ish for a Dean Jones style drive back over his head - with the ball strike feeling effortless, it puts a huge smile on your face (before he obviously tries to nail me with the short stuff next ball...).
The 2nd most fun I have had with a bat is a MB Zulfi which I brought for £40 off eBay - Yes, the handle went after a year but 7 years on, and now on its third owner, second handle, and FIFTH refurbishment, the bat still goes as well as anything I have ever owned. It certainly was not 7 times worse than my Newbery Mjolnir's or M&H Amplus'.
With the £300 bats in question, like with most things in life, you are paying for clever marketing and brand association.
Are bats a status symbol? Of course they are - otherwise there wouldn't be a demand in fake stickers. Same reason we assume someone who drives a Bugatti or Lamborghini must earn alot of money and be a pretty big deal. Performance wise, are they better cars than my BMW? Not necessary. It depends what you are looking for (Yes they can do 200mph, but my BMW can do 50mpg).
If you have a £400 M&H Amplus MKI, it says something about you to other people. Same as if you brought a Bugatti Veyron. Conversely, its like when we were at school and you brought the wrong coat, it can get you negative attention. Of course, jealousy is also a factor in this discussion. It is only human nature.
Would I spend £300 on a match bat for myself? No. As I know that money does not guarantee the performance I want. Do I know people who would? Also no. However, having these super expensive bats in a range means more of the middle level of bats sell because of the perceived quality v performance factor, which I know PLENTY of people who would buy them for £150-£200.
Its an interesting topic. One which could provide an interesting topic for a MA or BSc student to look into. :)
Sorry for rambling! :-[
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Low density clefts are all well and good, but they've still got to be pressed right.
Indeed they have i think handles are as important to pressing as well.
Optimum Wood Theory my good lads
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No. I don't like massive bats, I find they make me slog/lose shape.
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I agree
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Slight change on the topic, do you think bat size matters?
I have had some seriously stonking bats that were thin wafers by today's standards.
Does size matter!
Now you've opened a can of worms........ :D
I don't know the math behind this, James May is the man for this. I'm really interested in the math behind this as I think it would show a set of very interesting results.
Personally, I'd go for bat speed, but what do I know.
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Slight change on the topic, do you think bat size matters?
I have had some seriously stonking bats that were thin wafers by today's standards.
No, decent pressed willow will perform if you have 20mm edges or 45mm edges. If size mattered the GN scoop wouldn't have ever been made.
I think Tim did an experiment with a high density cleft and concluded size doesn't matter.
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No, decent pressed willow will perform if you have 20mm edges or 45mm edges. If size mattered the GN scoop wouldn't have ever been made.
I think Tim did an experiment with a high density cleft and concluded size doesn't matter.
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This lad is clever bingo in one mate me and Tai have been talking about the scoop it is in the optimum wood theory..
Very good answer mate
Big bats are in the mind it has worked for me this season.
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If you have a £400 M&H Amplus MKI, it says something about you to other people. Same as if you brought a Bugatti Veyron. Conversely, its like when we were at school and you brought the wrong coat, it can get you negative attention. Of course, jealousy is also a factor in this discussion. It is only human nature.
I take slight offence to that.
I bought one because it suited my game, won pretty much every award going last year and on the recommendation of other players who have used top range M&H bats for many years and swear by their performance.
I at no point chose it in order to show off.
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Let's put it another way.
Anyone ever have a weight reduction on a bat, ifso how much did the performance reduce by?
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I take slight offence to that.
I bought one because it suited my game, won pretty much every award going last year and on the recommendation of other players who have used top range M&H bats for many years and swear by their performance.
I at no point chose it in order to show off.
Do not worry I wore size 10 shoes at school even though i was a 5.
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I take slight offence to that.
I bought one because it suited my game, won pretty much every award going last year and on the recommendation of other players who have used top range M&H bats for many years and swear by their performance.
I at no point chose it in order to show off.
I guess he's speaking generally, rather then everyone etc.
I'd say it's like cars, watches etc.. Some will do it for various reasons but many will do it because of how it looks to others.. Humans like showing off and being 'better' than others.
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Let's put it another way.
Anyone ever have a weight reduction on a bat, ifso how much did the performance reduce by?
I had 3oz taken off a bat and the performance of the bat improved because I was able to play a wider range of shots with it.
Is this the bat's performance or my own though?
As I've said before, performance has too many variables to accurately measure it...
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And not one Manufacture presses the same as another its true the pick up and pressing is what any bat is about hence the reason I stress the importance in selecting your bat in store or on site if you cant and you have to buy online then communication and trust with the online site is important if you send out poor quality you wont last long in this game
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Let's put it another way.
Anyone ever have a weight reduction on a bat, ifso how much did the performance reduce by?
I had some weight taken out of my pro reject's Newbery. It's still sending the ball miles.
However, our (then) club Pro, Paul Weekes (clang), told me that the weight should NOT be taken from the hitting area.
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So are the Master, Amplus and Distinction made from these rare clefts? Is that why they are so expensive?
I hope so as that is what I have bought into!
I might add that I asked a batmaker to make an Amplus replica weighing 2.9 for a little under £200 at the start of last season. Basically he said it couldn't be done.
having looked at Aswanis m@h stock yesterday, there is no way in the world these m&h amplus, ck22, masters bats were made from oversized clefts. Are they made from low density clefts, I would probably say no to that as well.
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I take slight offence to that.
I bought one because it suited my game, won pretty much every award going last year and on the recommendation of other players who have used top range M&H bats for many years and swear by their performance.
I at no point chose it in order to show off.
Steve,
Please do not take me the wrong way. I did not mean to cause offence in anyway.
I was merely making the point that you could have had Warsop, Hunts etc make you an exact copy for 50% of that price - which if you are FastEddie, would have gone on some expensive sparking grape juice!! :-[
If you went for it because it won many awards because of its performance - fair play. I am saying not everyone will buy a £300+ M&H, Newbery etc... etc... etc... for that reason.
Can I ask though, why you brought the Grade 1 and not the Grade 2? Was that because you perceived it to be better?
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For me pickup and feel with the gloves on plus the handle as to feel right, then tap up with an old ball across the full width and down most of the bat face. Is the bats price relative to performance ? No the performance of the bat is determined by the skill of the person who has pressed the cleft.
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I had some weight taken out of my pro reject's Newbery. It's still sending the ball miles.
However, our (then) club Pro, Paul Weekes (clang), told me that the weight should NOT be taken from the hitting area.
what happened to 1271 (some are sick of me mentioning a brand so i will not) Gav took the weight out of the edge and the toe...
Never the hitting area.
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No, decent pressed willow will perform if you have 20mm edges or 45mm edges. If size mattered the GN scoop wouldn't have ever been made.
I think Tim did an experiment with a high density cleft and concluded size doesn't matter.
I'm going to show my ignorance here.
Isn't one of the benefits of a GN scoop that it distributes the weight to the edges making it look bigger for the weight and making the middle bigger, if not as powerful as a traditional bat. I know someone who has one and it looks huge for about 2.10
I don't get the GN scoop reference in relation to size not mattering. Sorry for my ignorance.
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My mate won the clubs avgs, and leagues top division top scorer with a eBay bought Indian blank bat for 45delivered.
I won the entire mid weeks avg with a mmi3
And an ex team mate once came second in the league averages with a sports direct special.
User is generally more important thAn the brand/maker, us mortals just like the placebo the g1+++ sticker gives it.
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I used a scoop 2 seasons ago it hits as far as a normal bat.
I hit a six.
The theory is there is a optimum quantity of wood the width that can produce performance the rest is a waste.
Amplus that's another theory too with the two middles theory...
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having looked at Aswanis m@h stock yesterday, there is no way in the world these m&h amplus, ck22, masters bats were made from oversized clefts. Are they made from low density clefts, I would probably say no to that as well.
Then surely they are are breaking the laws upheld by trading standards relating to advertising. The M&H website describes oversized clefts for a number of the bats I have quoted.
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Then surely they are are breaking the laws upheld by trading standards relating to advertising. The M&H website describes oversized clefts for a number of the bats I have quoted.
No idea. They did use oversize clefts for the distinction, but they no longer make that bat.
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Then surely they are are breaking the laws upheld by trading standards relating to advertising. The M&H website describes oversized clefts for a number of the bats I have quoted.
Have they quoted what a standard sized cleft is?
Does an oversized cleft have an industry standard measurement?
I really think it is a marketing ploy. Plain and simple.
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Steve,
Please do not take me the wrong way. I did not mean to cause offence in anyway.
I was merely making the point that you could have had Warsop, Hunts etc make you an exact copy for 50% of that price - which if you are FastEddie, would have gone on some expensive sparking grape juice!! :-[
If you went for it because it won many awards because of its performance - fair play. I am saying not everyone will buy a £300+ M&H, Newbery etc... etc... etc... for that reason.
Can I ask though, why you brought the Grade 1 and not the Grade 2? Was that because you perceived it to be better?
Because I wanted one that weighed 2.8
They are pretty rare so I had limited choice. The mark II bats I came across at that weight didn't feel as good as the mark I I got the chance to tap up. Basically I was prepared to pay a bit more for a bat that felt better to me.
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Standard cleft has a maximum spine of 65cm and oversized is 75-80cm I believe
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Standard cleft has a maximum spine of 65cm and oversized is 75-80cm I believe
For this to be checked, we need to know who supplies M&H with clefts and what their standards are.
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What a fascinating topic. Having netted with four bats over the last few months I've come to the conclusion that a £20 eBay powerbow is as good as a top bat from Tk, and that my ability to use it is having a far greater impact on its performance than the maker....
But then who doesn't like to get the best they can afford?
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Where the wood is determines where it can be removed, I generally remove wood from the toe, edges and shoulders.
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A raw cut standard cleft is 75mm giving a 65mm spine height .... Anything bigger is technically oversized. To get the 70mm spine height on a distinction or h4l tempo you need bigger than a normal cleft
The bat is only as good as the batsman using it
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Just thought I would put my own spin on this topic.
Last season I bought a Grade 1 RK Custom, pressed very hard and performed beautifully, was a lovely looking piece of wood. Slightly narrower than my other bats.
Come the end of the season I decided to start making my own, so now I use my own bats. Shape/profile wise they are just as nice as anything I see in the shops, taking the time to get a bat right wields just as good results.
However these are Grade 2 and 3, ironically the Grade 3 is the pick of the two. It pings better, however has a smaller profile. The spine height is drastically smaller than the G2.
I have learnt that it doesn't really matter the grade of the willow, wood is a natural product and thus each cleft will perform differently. It has been softly pressed and knocked in then played in against a bowling machine, so the face of the bat has been well prepared. I don't think you NEED to spend £300+ on a bat. Of course it's nice if you have that kind of money to be able to do that, but a £120 G3 will probably perform just as well. Sometimes better.
I have since sold the RK Custom and will be using my own Grade 3 bat this season, it is an absolute gun!
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the top m&h bats are superb but the same alleged bat maker also subcontracts himself out to smaller brands so in theory they should be the same.
excuse my ignorance but can someone please PM me with the info on exactly who makes M&H bats, or who presses them? It has often been alluded to on this forum but I'm yet to figure out who is what at M&H...
Cheers!
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I think concentrating solely on price as an indicator of how good a bat is, is a total nonsense, "It's expensive therefore it's better" train of thought. Regards price, surely as a buyer you are looking for value for money which takes into account the price, reputation of the batmaker, service provided if custom,finish of the bat,appearance/grains available.
M&H bat do have a good reputation for performance, can't say I've ever heard anyone saying there are planks, but they are in my opinion not value for money, and the finishing us below par for the price.
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excuse my ignorance but can someone please PM me with the info on exactly who makes M&H bats, or who presses them? It has often been alluded to on this forum but I'm yet to figure out who is what at M&H...
Cheers!
start up a thread ....... "who alledgely presses/makes which bats" ............. it would be like a scene from the Battle of the Alamo
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Unless I'm guaranteed "awesome ping" or "grade 1****" I feel I'm wasting my time. Flashy stickers also make me hit the ball further
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Here's a challenge..... Anyone of you that's paid £300 plus for your number one match bat I bet we can match it or better it for £225 just to prove that price doesn't factor how good a bat is......
Or maybe we should just put our prices up 😉
How about you match my Oblivion E41 Test (bought on impulse lol!!) for nothing and I'll tell you the difference!!
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Yeah, nice bit of free marketing for you, ,match my Affinity spectre, and I will post an honest review.
If your bat performs better, I will give you the £225
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agree with the thoughts on a £100 bat at times being better than a £300 bat. The way I see it it's all down to a) who's using it and b) how the bat suits you in regards to weight and pick up. That's my opinion anyway.
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As a 5"6 female cricketer I use Harrow bats. And In doing so I have 3 bats a Blank Bat £165, a H4L NV £155 and a hunts county revolution turbo LE £114. The majority of harrow bats cost less than £115, even tho the grade 1s are the same as the Shah just a tad smaller! (except M&H, H4L and custom made bats)
The reason I have 3 bats (I did have another 2, one I sold and the other I gave to one of the kids I coach) is that I see a bat I like the look of and I buy it.... Sooooo bad I know, but I now have three excellent bats which I intend to use to the max over the next couple of seasons. All 3 of the bats have a different middle position and weigh between 2"5.4 and 2"8.6 all with 2.5 grips. Each one allows for the different situations I usually find myself in whilst opening in Sunday games to pinch hitting on a Saturday.
So weight, pick up and middle position play a big part and also the Decals. There are a lot of bats that I have refused to buy because I thought they looked (No Swearing Please).
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It would be ideal for bat buying if you're small enough to use a harrow. all those decent bats you can get for half the price of a SH bat. Means you can buy twice as many!
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Yes jimmy!! It is the only advantage of being 5"6 :) :)
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Off topic:
The other advantage of being 5ft 6 is that you can hook the quicks and not get your head knock off !
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No body dares bounce a girl :) advantage of being a female cricketer in men's cricket!
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No body dares bounce a girl :) advantage of being a female cricketer in men's cricket!
I've seen a girl get bounced, and then nonchalantly send it to the boundary with a whiff "was I supposed to be troubled by that?"
What league do you play in?