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Title: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: Vitas Cricket on March 19, 2014, 12:30:49 PM
Some of you may have seen me mention a bat test we hosted recently for a local sports and lifestyle magazine. A few people have requested to see the results. They are available via the following link, on page 29. Wes Durston of Derbyshire was the lead tester, it was a pleasure to share a couple of hours talking bats with him.

There are a couple of errors, namely the spelling of Gray Nicolls and also a pricing error on an Icon 808.

http://issuu.com/theactivemag/docs/march2014?e=5464489/6858135 (http://issuu.com/theactivemag/docs/march2014?e=5464489/6858135)
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: RoCo Da Pixie on March 19, 2014, 12:47:17 PM
I seem to be getting a time out issue
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: ItsJustCricket on March 19, 2014, 05:11:01 PM
or a time out ISSUU even?!  ;)

I didn't get the same issue, but would liked to have seen a few more brands featuring in the test...
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 19, 2014, 05:18:58 PM
or a time out ISSUU even?!  ;)

I didn't get the same issue, but would liked to have seen a few more brands featuring in the test...

Would be a bit expensive for vitas to put on if they had more bats... Lots of used bats otherwise
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: Vitas Cricket on March 19, 2014, 05:22:25 PM
We only had a brief window to work with Wes, and the whole thing was organised quite last minute, hence the modest selection of brands.
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: GDP1964 on March 19, 2014, 07:35:11 PM
Made my day thanks Jake surprised to hear of the test very happy with the B&S result yes Paul small selection but judging by the time vitas had to put it together job well done. B&S South Africa will be HAPPY
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: procricket on March 19, 2014, 07:42:47 PM
Good read them Newton Gravity 111 on page 26 look tasty.

good test track event and a decent read.
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: iand123 on March 19, 2014, 08:43:22 PM
Good exposure there Jake, i thought the selection of brands was pretty varied, could easily gone down the route of the cricketer and only done "popular" big 5/6 brands so i thought it was nice to get some others in there
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: VKS on March 19, 2014, 10:25:58 PM
Great exposure in what looks to be a really smart publication. As for the bats on test, I think you've picked some good ones and given a varied choice.
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: thecord on March 20, 2014, 12:04:16 AM
Congrats on the feature, nice exposure for you.
Scary that a "mid range" bat can cost £285 though!
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: Vitas Cricket on March 20, 2014, 05:55:18 PM
Yes that is the pricing error as mentioned. An 808 costs about £100 less than that.
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on March 30, 2014, 11:52:00 AM
Interesting that a GM 606 can perform as well as a GM Original LE?
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: fasteddie on March 30, 2014, 11:56:35 AM
Interesting that a GM 606 can perform as well as a GM Original LE?

Do GM price on looks/grains over performance?
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on March 30, 2014, 12:00:32 PM
Do GM price on looks/grains over performance?

Good luck in getting a straight answer.
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: tim2000s on March 30, 2014, 12:08:21 PM
I'm pretty sure that is how GM have always graded. Always looks. After all, that's how they buy the willow in.

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Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 30, 2014, 12:10:00 PM
Do GM price on looks/grains over performance?

Does anyone actually answer that particular question
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on March 30, 2014, 12:14:44 PM
I'm pretty sure that is how GM have always graded. Always looks. After all, that's how they buy the willow in.

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This isn't necessarily obvious if a go into, say, Morrant and look at a large selection of their bats.
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on March 30, 2014, 12:16:57 PM

If it became common knowledge that expensive bats didn't perform better, I feel sure people would stop buying them.
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: tim2000s on March 30, 2014, 12:23:19 PM
If it became common knowledge that expensive bats didn't perform better, I feel sure people would stop buying them.
Funny. When i was growing up, i rememberbats all having stars, 1* through to 5*. 5* was always the one that looked the best and was most expensive. Then Slaz introduced names, and Panther was the rubbish willow, usually covered, through to Ultimate. Hunts also had their 8*.

We've done this to death though. All bat makers should grade on looks as you can't guarantee performance.

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Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 30, 2014, 12:30:34 PM
It's not really in the bat makers or retailers benefit to make it widely known though really. If they do they'll just wack up the prices for all grades
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on March 30, 2014, 12:31:39 PM
Funny. When i was growing up, i rememberbats all having stars, 1* through to 5*. 5* was always the one that looked the best and was most expensive. Then Slaz introduced names, and Panther was the rubbish willow, usually covered, through to Ultimate. Hunts also had their 8*.

We've done this to death though. All bat makers should grade on looks as you can't guarantee performance.

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Without doubt, in the past, expensive bats generally performed better. Do they now? We're still undecided...
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on March 30, 2014, 12:36:06 PM
Some Slazengers I saw in Lillywhite's (SD) the other day seemed to have done away with grading. They just had the model number (eg V600) and varying price tags. Is this clever marketing? Or SD just being rubbish?
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: tim2000s on March 30, 2014, 01:52:15 PM
Without doubt, in the past, expensive bats generally performed better. Do they now? We're still undecided...
I completely disagree with this statement. I have a number of older bats that are completely midrange and one that is top range. I wouldn't say there was any difference between them. My only observation is that they have all been properly knocked in!

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Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on March 30, 2014, 01:58:37 PM
I completely disagree with this statement. I have a number of older bats that are completely midrange and one that is top range. I wouldn't say there was any difference between them. My only observation is that they have all been properly knocked in!

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Cheaper bats used to be made to survive the unique challenges of lower level club and village cricket, rather than offer high performance. You'd get bats with unpretentious names like 'Clubman'.
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: Vitas Cricket on March 31, 2014, 12:43:47 PM
This was a bat test done for a magazine run by a friend. The tester was a professional cricketer and all the results are his opinion. There are low end bats that fly, and very occasionally, high end bats that are dead. It has been discussed many times. Willow is a natural product, there will never be an absolute guarantee on what you are going to get, even if a local magazine gear test says so ;)

Slazenger bats carry the grade name on the back sticker. This year the ranges are called for example V100 G1, G2, G3, G4 etc rather than LE, Player, 5 star or whatever else companies decide to call their bats.
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: Kevtheplumber on April 01, 2014, 06:08:27 AM
I'm with jake on this, we had a session in the net with all the GM bats, ranging from under £100-400 I didn't like any of the £400 ones as much as the £150-200 versions. Just goes to show it's worth having a  play.
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: lazza32 on April 01, 2014, 07:07:10 AM
I'm with jake on this, we had a session in the net with all the GM bats, ranging from under £100-400 I didn't like any of the £400 ones as much as the £150-200 versions. Just goes to show it's worth having a  play.
Did you know they were the more expensive ones before or after testing?

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Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: Kevtheplumber on April 02, 2014, 06:03:00 PM
Some before some during some after.
Title: Re: Bat Test We Hosted Recently
Post by: wayward_hayward on April 02, 2014, 06:12:12 PM
I'm with jake on this, we had a session in the net with all the GM bats, ranging from under £100-400 I didn't like any of the £400 ones as much as the £150-200 versions. Just goes to show it's worth having a  play.

Oh god, you have reminded of the Zona I tried at the last Vitas forum event. I think it was a high model but it was so hard and lacked any response. Yuck