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Title: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: Buzz on May 28, 2014, 05:55:12 AM: since the ashes debacle there have been multiple efforts by members and on Twitter to select a team.
with the first test approaching I thought it would be fun to do something slightly different.

what team would you actually rather pay to watch?

Whilst sounding like a broken record, you need attacking batsmen to win test matches, having a team of blockers won't win you anything, other than putting off the punters.

So the England team I would actually pay to watch (not what I think will get picked) is...

Cook
Hales
Bell
Morgan
Ballance
Patel (better batsman than Ali, similar bowler)
kieswetter (Prior won't be fit)
Stokes
Jordan
Broad
Anderson

Who would you pay to watch based on those currently available (so no KP, who should be the first name on the sheet)

please no teams that say... cook Robson root bell ballance Ali stokes foster Jordan, broad Anderson (the probable team) there's nothing like enough flair to be fun to watch!!
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: Marc28 on May 28, 2014, 06:06:27 AM: This could be a good idea pay as you play basis on how much flair you side has,

Mine would be
Cook
Stoneman
Bell
Vince
Ballance (Sorry no Morgan)
Stokes
The Buttler
Broad
Jordan
Anderson

my team couple of tweaks but well worth a watch i reckon
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: Buzz on May 28, 2014, 06:13:34 AM: actually this could work, you pay based on the flair the team has and then extra if the team wins!

Marc, nice team, always best not to agree with me!
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: smilley792 on May 28, 2014, 06:23:32 AM: Hales
Lumb
Bell
Root
Morgan
Stokes
Buttler
Rashid
Broad
Anderson
Mills
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: sgcricket on May 28, 2014, 06:48:46 AM: Quote from: Marc28 on May 28, 2014, 06:06:27 AM
This could be a good idea pay as you play basis on how much flair you side has,

Mine would be
Cook
Stoneman
Bell
Vince
Ballance (Sorry no Morgan)
Stokes
The Buttler
Broad
Jordan
Anderson

my team couple of tweaks but well worth a watch i reckon

good idea on the payment system but for your team, you have only got 10 players
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: Alvaro on May 28, 2014, 07:15:43 AM: Only in England....

1. Marcus Trescothick
2. Chris Nash
3. Ian Bell
4. Moeen Ali
5. Gary Ballance
6. Craig Keiswetter
7. Paul Collingwood (Capt)
8. Chris Jordan
9. Stuart Broad
10. Jamie Overton
11. Mark Wood
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: Bruce on May 28, 2014, 07:16:26 AM: It's a funny old place this.
Not long ago that people were saying Bell shouldn't play or bell has to go etc etc
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: Marc28 on May 28, 2014, 07:20:31 AM: Quote from: sgcricket on May 28, 2014, 06:48:46 AM
good idea on the payment system but for your team, you have only got 10 players

Reason behind picking only 10 was i couldnt think of another flair player i could pick, plus that team should score at least 400 so only need 10 men
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: Alvaro on May 28, 2014, 07:24:15 AM: Quote from: Bruce on May 28, 2014, 07:16:26 AM
It's a funny old place this.
Not long ago that people were saying Bell shouldn't play or bell has to go etc etc

Yes, but he's there for a good time, not a long time in Buzz's Neo-Slapfest setup.
Though I never called for him to be dropped...
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: Dan W on May 28, 2014, 08:36:14 AM: I'd pick the team that wins the damn thing!

There is a beauty in being measured and clinical - as long as you're good at it!
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: WillyorWonty on May 28, 2014, 10:35:26 AM: If I were to pay a team then this would be my 11,

Vincent
Butt
Gibbs
Mishra
Cairns
Samuels
Arif
Westfield
Kaneria
Asif
Amir

Or am I barking up the wrong tree?
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: arsenal123 on May 28, 2014, 10:39:37 AM: Sreesanth as 12th man/mobile phone operator.
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: Buzz on May 28, 2014, 11:06:53 AM: This is meant to be an England team ideally... but with a bit of scrabbling around to find a grandparent with a british passport, perhaps the net could be relatively wide!!

Oh and for a test match.

Not people you are paying to influence the result!!!
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: jwebber86 on May 28, 2014, 11:33:26 AM: the team i would pick

alistair cook/nick compton
Micheal Carberry
Ian Bell
Eoin Morgan (c)
Joe Root
pete trego
james foster
stuart broad
chris jordan
James Anderson
tymal mills/jamie overton
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: Stuey on May 28, 2014, 12:11:33 PM: Cook
Trescothick
Bell
Stokes
Buttler
Morgan
Rashid
Foster (wk, for his glove work alone)
Jordan
Overton
Mills
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: joeljonno on May 28, 2014, 12:16:10 PM: - Cook (as he is captain)
- Hales (for a bit of aggression, rather than real quality test-match-ness or maybe Robson)
- Ali (although would much prefer Trott - he might play a county 2s game next week at Stamford Bridge vs Yorkshire)
- Bell
- Ballance
- Root (could open, but might be better down order with Ballance and Buttler)
- Buttler (for fun, Foster for wicketkeeping)
- Stokes (if fit, otherwise Patel)
- Jordan
- Broad
- Anderson

Bit of youthfulness. Think Root and Buttler could make it interesting in the middle order. Plus some big hitting from Hales at the top and Jordan toward the end.

Everyone can bat around Cook and Ali.

4 seamers and a couple of part-time spinners (if Stokes is fit).
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: mattw on May 28, 2014, 12:45:03 PM: The team I would like to watch(on (semi realistic)entertainment/record value)
Cook
Root
Bell
Ali
Bopara
Patel
Davies(WK)
Jordan
Anderson
Finn
Monty/Mills(depending on conditions)
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: uknsaunders on May 28, 2014, 12:51:40 PM: If England don't pick there best XI then I wouldn't pay, that means KP playing in my book. It happens to often now by the ECB, in the quest for money . I watched 15 overs of crap ODI cricket at Edgbaston last year while the England "B" fumbled around. No point charging top dollar for an average team.
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: FattusCattus on May 28, 2014, 12:51:58 PM: I think you should be in it Buzz - you'd 'bloomin' well get on with it!'
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: richthekeeper on May 28, 2014, 01:03:48 PM: I'd love to see a "proper" wicketkeeper in the side not one of these lads who's a good bat and can catch a bit.

With the emergence of Stokes as potentially a genuine all-rounder, plus Chris Jordan showing some real ability with the bat, this is becoming more of a possibility.

How about:

Cook (c)
Root
Ali
Bell
Taylor
Buttler/Hales
Stokes
Foster (wk)
Broad
Jordan / Panesar (depending on conditions)
Anderson
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: george_parv on May 28, 2014, 01:18:59 PM: Cook (C)
Carberry
Trott
KP
Bopara
Hales
Stokes
Foster (wk)
Anderson
Finn
Rashid

EDIT: Scratch that if I'm paying I want KP, Bell-> KP
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: Manormanic on May 28, 2014, 01:51:34 PM: I am absolutely staggered that, when the concept is of picking a side you'd actually pay to see, EVERYONE has picked Alistair Cook as captain.

Lets be clear - he ain't much of a batsman to watch, but at least he is statistically effective. But he is without a shadow of a doubt the single worst captain in Test history.
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: Manormanic on May 28, 2014, 01:53:40 PM: And if I'm paying, and the side are still being picked to try and win, I'd go for:

Root
Cook
Bell
Pietersen (C)
Morgan
Stokes
Rashid
Foster (W)
Jordan
Plunkett
Anderson
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: richthekeeper on May 28, 2014, 02:03:04 PM: i might be choosing a side i'd pay to watch, but i haven't suddenly been appointed as chairman of selectors. in that case, Cook is the captain.
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: Alvaro on May 28, 2014, 02:03:05 PM: good call on Plunkett
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on May 28, 2014, 02:09:16 PM: Something along the lines of:

Hales
Ali
Bell
Root (C)
Morgan
Stokes
Butler (WK)
Borthwick
Jordan
Overton
Mills

Might as well start to build for the future rather than the same old guard.
4 seamers, a leg spinner and Root and Ali as the back up spin options, why aren't I a selector?
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: fros23 on May 28, 2014, 02:20:47 PM: Quote from: Manormanic on May 28, 2014, 01:51:34 PM
I am absolutely staggered that, when the concept is of picking a side you'd actually pay to see, EVERYONE has picked Alistair Cook as captain.

Lets be clear - he ain't much of a batsman to watch, but at least he is statistically effective. But he is without a shadow of a doubt the single worst captain in Test history.

I'm watching Cook captain a side with 3 slips and a short leg in an ODI, but he hasn't got a couple of short midwickets like Clarke or McCullum do so therefore it's still negative. ???
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: Sam on May 28, 2014, 02:30:59 PM: Cook
Carberry
Taylor
Vince
Bell/Morgan
Stokes
Buttler
Borthwick
Jordan
Plunkett
Anderson

Don't quite see why people would be picking Hales when he's struggling to get in a county team :D.
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: Toby on May 28, 2014, 02:36:08 PM: Cook
Compton
Bell
Root
Taylor
Stokes
Buttler
Borthwick
Plunkett
Broad
Anderson
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: Buzz on May 28, 2014, 02:44:27 PM: Quote from: Sam on May 28, 2014, 02:30:59 PM
Don't quite see why people would be picking Hales when he's struggling to get in a county team :D.

Alex Hales is our answer to David Warner. He was picked because of his talent and his state were told to pick him...
In fact Warner played for Aus without even playing first class cricket (T20 and ODI stuff).

god forbid that would happen in England
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: Manormanic on May 28, 2014, 04:03:43 PM: Quote from: richthekeeper on May 28, 2014, 02:03:04 PM
i might be choosing a side i'd pay to watch, but i haven't suddenly been appointed as chairman of selectors. in that case, Cook is the captain.

But if you're choosing the side - normally the job of the, erm, Chairman of Selectors - then its reasonable to assume you can influence the skipper...
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on May 28, 2014, 07:04:24 PM: Hales
Tresco
Lumb
KP
Root
Patel
Butler
Stokes
Trego
Jordan
Overton

Although, now Freddie is back I'll swap trego with Flintoff :)
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: Alvaro on May 28, 2014, 07:08:28 PM: Quote from: Manormanic on May 28, 2014, 01:51:34 PM
I am absolutely staggered that, when the concept is of picking a side you'd actually pay to see, EVERYONE has picked Alistair Cook as captain.

Lets be clear - he ain't much of a batsman to watch, but at least he is statistically effective. But he is without a shadow of a doubt the single worst captain in Test history.

I didn't ;)
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: smilley792 on May 28, 2014, 07:14:35 PM: Quote from: Alvaro on May 28, 2014, 07:08:28 PM
I didn't ;)

Me neither!
Title: Re: as a paying punter, what team would you rather the selectors chose?
Post by: joeljonno on May 28, 2014, 07:22:31 PM: There's beauty to all types. I would love to watch a nice grinding 'dig in' type innings now and again.