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Equipment => Other Gear => Topic started by: H3athy on July 15, 2014, 10:03:29 AM
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Second thread after my first one was so successful so thanks to everybody who contributed !
I am going to Melbourne this winter to play and coach at a club and I am trying to get a sponsor. I play Minor counties Under 25 cricket here and I will be playing a grade cricket in Australia. I coach to roughly 200 kids in the UK and many more than that number when I go over to Aus. Can somebody give me a nudge towards an accommodating company that would like a some overseas exposure ?
Shark cricket have very generously offered me 20% discount and B3 have asked me along to the warehouse which I will do, but I was wondering if anybody knew of any small brands that may well be interested.
Cheer guys
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I would bite the arm off from that B3 offer if I were you...
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Yip as Buzz said B3 (what ever they offer) :)
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Ok great well I live in Cambridge so I need to jump in the car then ! :D
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Ok great well I live in Cambridge so I need to jump in the car then ! :D
Should have been half way there by now :D
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Who are you playing for in Melbourne?
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Who are you playing for in Melbourne?
I have had two offers, one from Port Melbourne CC and another from Bonbeach Tangy CC, Bonbeach play below Port but there offer is a better one ! and involves more coaching so I am swayed that way atm !
Should have been half way there by now :D
hahaha waiting on my new car when that arrives im off !
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I have had two offers, one from Port Melbourne CC and another from Bonbeach Tangy CC, Bonbeach play below Port but there offer is a better one ! and involves more coaching so I am swayed that way atm !
I know a few guys from Carlton CC, which ever you pick you'll have a great time!
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Get yourself down to is mate we will look after you
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I know a few guys from Carlton CC, which ever you pick you'll have a great time!
cheers mate but I think im sorted, appreciate the offer !
Get yourself down to is mate we will look after you
Cheers mate I will come down this week sometime, I will let you know when im coming !
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No one will give you "sponsorship" as such simply because there would be no direct benefit.
Most of the larger brands will give you discount off "factory price" which always seems to be a little steep anyway.
When I used to play county 2's, the best I was offered was 2 free bats and 50% off everything else.
Unless you can approach a really small company (try Neon, Vulcan, Island Cricket, Vanquish Cricket, Mars etc) you probably aren't going to get much for the reason stated above.
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Woodstock seem to dish out kit like Christmas cards
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Woodstock seem to dish out kit like Christmas cards
I haven't received any of said Christmas cards, when should I expect mine? ;)
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No one will give you "sponsorship" as such simply because there would be no direct benefit.
Most of the larger brands will give you discount off "factory price" which always seems to be a little steep anyway.
When I used to play county 2's, the best I was offered was 2 free bats and 50% off everything else.
Unless you can approach a really small company (try Neon, Vulcan, Island Cricket, Vanquish Cricket, Mars etc) you probably aren't going to get much for the reason stated above.
The benefits of sponsoring a player is what they're willing to do for the brand, not necessarily what level of cricket they play at (obviously this isn't the case for all).
It simply comes down to the company in question and what they're looking to achieve, it's very interesting to me when I see companies offering sponsorships to everyone, IMO it only damages the brand in the long run as no one will purchase the kit full price knowing one quick email will save them £100+ - they'll struggle to ever turn a good profit
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The benefits of sponsoring a player is what they're willing to do for the brand, not necessarily what level of cricket they play at (obviously this isn't the case for all).
It simply comes down to the company in question and what they're looking to achieve, it's very interesting to me when I see companies offering sponsorships to everyone, IMO it only damages the brand in the long run as no one will purchase the kit full price knowing one quick email will save them £100+ - they'll struggle to ever turn a good profit
I bought a fusion bat a few years ago that went well (still does). On the back of that purchase James has since sold 6 bats to guys at my club, plus the odd set of pads and gloves and a couple to other players in my league who had never heard of Fusion. He has also sold a bat to a player in OZ who played for us for a season.
I wasn't sponsored, but it's an example that a club player can sell you more kit, and get your name known in their league.
Yes I'm open to offers ;)
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No one will give you "sponsorship" as such simply because there would be no direct benefit.
Most of the larger brands will give you discount off "factory price" which always seems to be a little steep anyway.
When I used to play county 2's, the best I was offered was 2 free bats and 50% off everything else.
Unless you can approach a really small company (try Neon, Vulcan, Island Cricket, Vanquish Cricket, Mars etc) you probably aren't going to get much for the reason stated above.
I was never expecting to just be given a full 100% sponsorship just some good discounts on kit! as i believe in my current position I could advertise a company well with the sort of players I'm playing with and the amount of children I coach.
Thanks for the list of useful contacts !
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I had Woodstock offer me 40% off their stuff before and my application wasn't even that good.
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I had Woodstock offer me 40% off their stuff before and my application wasn't even that good.
What did u say and what level do u play
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I had Woodstock offer me 40% off their stuff before and my application wasn't even that good.
I think they've got a draft email and they press "reply to all" offering that lol :D
Nice bats mind...
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I've got to admit, I don't get why the level matters in amateur cricket. A few guys in the top divs aren't going to shift you much kit compared to the run scorers in divs 3/4/5 who will be seen by more people and probably do far more than just turn up thinking they are stars.
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Agree and disagree as a kind of exposure expert called by my superior The Doctor I have a habit of sniffing real pulling power from the usual dandruff exposure.
Sponsorship or discount is a simple thing bit like bats people over complicate too much with BS words but I have a real nose for this stuff
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Hi mate, we are a Perth based company - drop me a line.... It will be good to chat
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Woodstock sorted me with a full kit at a very good price while I was in the UK simply because I played in the Kent Premier League!
To the poster - Goodluck down here mate hope you enjoy it! And Kudos to you for being so eager to coach as well while you play.
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I think JPGavan in Sydney would probably be a great way to go. Josh has some great gear and really looks after his players.
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JP Gavan is good if you are in Sydney. Very approachable, and he is now looking for sponsorships
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Looking at his page, appears he only sponsors those fringing on state selection?
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If Santa Claus is on holiday at Woodstock he is probably visiting Gecko Cricket handing out their Christmas cards
At least 5 times a day people tweet for sponsorship, £185 is my best for a bat. WellI can get a bat, gloves, pads and a bag from the from (insert gecko or Woodstock) is the usual response. My response, well there you go, you have a great deal so get stuck in.
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You should see my inbox Garrett...
Mars/Gecko/Woodstock/Simply/Vanquish/Sabre being the main culprits
I had an application from a lad just this morning and he stated that his last 2 'sponsorships' were Woodstock and Mars - baring in mind he's only 13!!
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Hi mate, we are a Perth based company - drop me a line.... It will be good to chat
Hi Mate, received your PM but i can't reply because your inbox is full. Private Message me your email address or send me an email from my website -
focuscricket.com
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You should see my inbox Garrett...
Mars/Gecko/Woodstock/Simply/Vanquish/Sabre being the main culprits
I had an application from a lad just this morning and he stated that his last 2 'sponsorships' were Woodstock and Mars - baring in mind he's only 13!!
haha, i hear your pain guys….. wait until you start playing on Instagram - the sponsorship questions from the kids will roll in hourly
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We still get bombarded with them even though we no longer produce bats/softs etc.
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Sorry I might be hijacking the thread here, but I think that sponsorships should be for people that rely on cricket for a living or have financial hardships and those who get approached by companies because of their skill. I don't believe there should be scholarships for people who don't deserve one, like people play a lower standard of cricket, can easily afford their kit and people who won't help the company.
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There is a difference between a sponsorship and discount IMO, a sponsorship is for someone who will add value to a brand by either having them use the kit or by representing the brand in a way that will benefit it. The brand will be willing to offer discounted or free kit in return for this.
A discount is where someone applies for "sponsorship" and essentially gets given a discount for doing so but tells everyone they are a "sponsored" player for brand X to make themselves sound good. I think the earliest example of this was from Classic Bats Company here in Bristol who used to offer a 'sponsorship" for everyone that walked through the door.
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So the people who apply and don't deserve one get a "sponsorship", which gives a discount that ends up being the same price as a shop as their RRP is so high, like GN, where their 4th bat (matrix)down the line's RRP is $280! http://www.gnsports.com.au/products/au/gray-nicolls/bats/senior-range?&pg=1
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A discount is where someone applies for "sponsorship" and essentially gets given a discount for doing so but tells everyone they are a "sponsored" player for brand X to make themselves sound good. I think the earliest example of this was from Classic Bats Company here in Bristol who used to offer a 'sponsorship" for everyone that walked through the door.
Stop devaluing my childhood sponsorship Tom! ;)
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Having witness this season more and more young players being told by there clubs to apply for numerous sponsorships telling them they will get free kit totally wrong IMO to encourage something for nothing.
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This is the problem, a year or 2 before I started Neon one of the lads at our club decided to email Shark, as a bit of a joke, to see if they'd give him a sponsorship - one quick email with a lot of BS written in it and they'd given him 40% off, no actual proof, they didn't even speak to the lad over the phone etc
Imagine my thoughts when you get coaches/fathers of players emailing for a discount/sponsorship and demanding at least 50% off because their player/son has played one game for the local district side - when I started out I got what I was given by my parents and I had to bloody well earn anything else, I had my first job at 13 mowing lawns for the elderly couples down my road, this used to pay for my minor obsession with Duncan Fearnley during my youth!
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It maybe wrong to encourage but just look at all the silly 'district' 'county' teams you now have.. A lot of these kids and parents think they are something special when in fact it's got more to do with the club you happen to be at or how much mummy/daddy transport .
Not trying to sound funny but dom'county' really need u9/10's/11's etc. After all, one of the best batsmen I've seen didn't even play till he was 15 and he's way better than all these people that have been through 'county'
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It maybe wrong to encourage but just look at all the silly 'district' 'county' teams you now have.. A lot of these kids and parents think they are something special when in fact it's got more to do with the club you happen to be at or how much mummy/daddy transport .
Not trying to sound funny but dom'county' really need u9/10's/11's etc. After all, one of the best batsmen I've seen didn't even play till he was 15 and he's way better than all these people that have been through 'county'
Well if you take Worcestershire for an example, if you didn't play for the right club or you didn't go to the right school you could forget about getting near the county set up before you were at least 15/16.
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Also, I do find it amusing how brands go on about how they pick people to represent them etc. Utter rubbish. They pick players on the top leagues who 99% of the real customers will have little to no exposure to. Hell, most people don't read the local rags so saying 'I'm in the paper each week', isn't really exposure.
I'm still to be convinced that targeting the right people within a club who will actively promote a brand and demonstrate to enough of the normal players that it's good kit. Gecko might annoy with the 'sponsorships' but I suspect that by doing this they will dominate their local markets in the not to distant future.. It's amazing how people will stick to what they know and will go back with them. Gecko don't care... Buy bat in for 90, sell for 'discount' 170... Still loads of profit, especially if you are shifting volume.
Sometimes whilst I agree that anyone below pro level shouldn't get kit, I do find it annoying who is deemed worthy and why volume is looked down on. If I could shift 400 bats with 40 quid profit or 100 bats at 100 profit, then I'd choose the former.. Why...because more people would see the brand, more exposure, hopefully more customers.
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Well if you take Worcestershire for an example, if you didn't play for the right club or you didn't go to the right school you could forget about getting near the county set up before you were at least 15/16.
That's my point, so why bother with all this age group crap? Just leave them to the clubs and see who performs in cricket
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I think you'll find no one wants to pay over £100 for a bat
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Hi Mate, received your PM but i can't reply because your inbox is full. Private Message me your email address or send me an email from my website -
focuscricket.com
Must have had lots of offers!
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You should see my inbox Garrett...
Mars/Gecko/Woodstock/Simply/Vanquish/Sabre being the main culprits
I had an application from a lad just this morning and he stated that his last 2 'sponsorships' were Woodstock and Mars - baring in mind he's only 13!!
I've heard of Mars literally giving their kit away, Woodstock are the same. I actually asked Vanquish for a sponsorship last year and they only sponsor County/Minor County players so I don't think its fair to assume they are one of the "main culprits" lol. Ive heard of simply cricket but I thought they did coaching? are they into kit now too?
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Well if you take Worcestershire for an example, if you didn't play for the right club or you didn't go to the right school you could forget about getting near the county set up before you were at least 15/16.
Same at every county. Grammar school or nothing.... unless daddy knows the coach. ive seen it myself playing county cricket, the focus certainly isn't on the development of young talent at that age.
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Yes Simply cricket in Colchester sell kit had a look at there website yesterday.
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I've heard of Mars literally giving their kit away, Woodstock are the same. I actually asked Vanquish for a sponsorship last year and they only sponsor County/Minor County players so I don't think its fair to assume they are one of the "main culprits" lol. Ive heard of simply cricket but I thought they did coaching? are they into kit now too?
Not according to a lot of my emails! Wouldn't touch Vanquish with a barge pole anyway, had a run in with them a few years back and he really was a piece of work. Claimed to be selling UK made bats when they clearly weren't - refused a refund at first and then when he eventually agreed, after approaching trading standards, he had the cheek to claim I'd damaged it and only refunded about half the amount, it'd been sat in it's box ever since arriving!
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Just out of curiosity, anyone here got a full sponsor by Mars, Woodstock ect..??
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Just out of curiosity, anyone here got a full sponsor by Mars, Woodstock ect..??
2 of my clubmates have full sponshership from mars cricket, they do some quality kit, bats are if very high quality
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2 of my clubmates have full sponshership from mars cricket, they do some quality kit, bats are if very high quality
Full sponsorship as in free kit, or just the discount you could get from any retailer for a full kit?
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@skip1973 speaking to one of them i was told it was a full free kit
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I still reckon anything less than a full county pro (even then, some are not regular players!) or guys who sell kit for a brand with proven record first and it's pointless but hey ho, good luck to them. I'm sure we have a few here who get cheap/free kit
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I still reckon anything less than a full county pro (even then, some are not regular players!) or guys who sell kit for a brand with proven record first and it's pointless but hey ho, good luck to them. I'm sure we have a few here who get cheap/free kit
Agree and my theory is most of them are lucky to get it because I wonder what some bring to the brand.
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Agree and my theory is most of them are lucky to get it because I wonder what some bring to the brand.
100%
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Agree and my theory is most of them are lucky to get it because I wonder what some bring to the brand.
Brings a sale to the brand, that's literally it in 99% of cases.
But then £50 of discounted profit is better than nothing for some!
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Brings a sale to the brand, that's literally it in 99% of cases.
But then £50 of discounted profit is better than nothing for some!
Also I would imagine it gets the brand seen. Yes, it might not being used by well known player but if you see the brand being used in enough places it gains a certain acceptance and recognition when people are next buying kit.
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If you get a young up coming guy with potential you may get some brand exposure before they get offered the big bucks.
Take Ashton agar for instance.
Tnf sponsored him since youth, random call up to aus after a few first team games. Score 99 on debut in a test.
Tend got exposure, only for that test, but it's exposure. Could they afford to sponsor an already test playing player? Probably not.
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@skip1973 speaking to one of them i was told it was a full free kit
Very few players outside county or minor counties get full kit completely free some brands do a monthly young player award for part free kit but most who are sponsored ihas already written its a percentage discount.
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Very few players outside county or minor counties get full kit completely free some brands do a monthly young player award for part free kit but most who are sponsored ihas already written its a percentage discount.
one of them plays minor counties cricket and the other is currently playing at cardiff mccu
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Half my uni got 'sponsored' by Woodstock, all you needed to do was fill the form out and you got your 25% off it seems... not worth much as their bats are about 25% pricier than most anyway! They'll make more money selling kit direct that way than they will selling through retailers, simple as that. As for Mars, I doubt they sell many at full price tbh, at least at a discount they're selling some!
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Half my uni got 'sponsored' by Woodstock, all you needed to do was fill the form out and you got your 25% off it seems... not worth much as their bats are about 25% pricier than most anyway! They'll make more money selling kit direct that way than they will selling through retailers, simple as that. As for Mars, I doubt they sell many at full price tbh, at least at a discount they're selling some!
That's fair enough, good way to shift bats I suppose. A little cash is better than. Nothing. They'll have x amount of stock to shift every year after all
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Half my uni got 'sponsored' by Woodstock, all you needed to do was fill the form out and you got your 25% off it seems... not worth much as their bats are about 25% pricier than most anyway! They'll make more money selling kit direct that way than they will selling through retailers, simple as that. As for Mars, I doubt they sell many at full price tbh, at least at a discount they're selling some!
I sent an email to Woodstock and got money off, you mean that wasn't because John looked me up and thought I was the kind of player he wanted using his kit?
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I sent an email to Woodstock and got money off, you mean that wasn't because John looked me up and thought I was the kind of player he wanted using his kit?
Sorry to be be the bearer of bad news ;) There were two strategies from the people I knew who applied - be honest and cross your fingers, or lie and write about what a gun all-rounder you are. Both had close to a 100% success rate.
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Brings a sale to the brand, that's literally it in 99% of cases.
But then £50 of discounted profit is better than nothing for some!
I agree with discounts for amateur players but pro not so but that's my own opinion unless your joe root and the likes which would cost a fortune.
Call it sponsorship or discount I agree it all brings a sale and exposure
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Anyway we have a few spaces left on out discount sponsorship scheme if people are interested.
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One of the lads from work has just applied for 'sponsorship' at Woodstock - lets see what comes back... lol
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Back when Woodstock first started, I went and saw John and got a platinum stick for £120, stick use it on the regs 4 years later, an amazing stick!!
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Back when Woodstock first started, I went and saw John and got a platinum stick for £120, stick use it on the regs 4 years later, an amazing stick!!
I used to be sponsored by Woodstock and I swear to Richie benaud it was the best bat I ever had!
Really happy with it.
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Do you mind us asking what deal they gave you @LeonieKelly18?
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I have meet John a few times at trade shows and what not he is a very nice fella and I liked his bats
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I used to be sponsored by Woodstock and I swear to Richie benaud it was the best bat I ever had!
Really happy with it.
I reckon it is the best bat I've owned so far. Lovely chap and has a massive passion for it.
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I don't understand how people don't like Woodstock yeah sure he doesn't handle or press the bats but all of them I tapped up whilst I was there where really nice and he does everything else to the bats and he is a really nice guy
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Do you mind us asking what deal they gave you @LeonieKelly18?
I got a bat, 2pairs of gloves, pad and a bag. As I played county and international cricket and had to help sell some over in NL. Which was basically the deal.
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I got a bat, 2pairs of gloves, pad and a bag. As I played county and international cricket and had to help sell some over in NL. Which was basically the deal.
You think they'd at least stretch to a pair of pads for an international! :D
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So my mate had a reply last night, was offered sponsorship lol
Questionable tactic mind, they claim the prices on the website are already reduced so take the discount from their "SSP" instead of the website price - for example, top grade bat on the website is £290 yet on the sponsorship form it's £350, reduced down to £225 for "sponsors".
Must be making a packet from anyone that bites
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Ha exactly. It's clearly worth doing if you particularly want a Woodstock bat, otherwise really not a great deal.
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Indeed - if you've got your heart set on a woodstock then by all means go for it! But for £225 you can certainly do better elsewhere (the forum sponsors prove this!).
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To be honest your best asking all companies not just them on here heaven forbid you can get a deal away from this forum.
We really seem to be a closed shop at the minute.
Truth is most will give some discount if you buy bulk find out the prices that includes shop and see what you can get if your a full kit person.
It has always been the case find what kit you want then try get it the cheapest was out of nessesity half the time growing up when pennies where tighter than they are now (there are still tight).
My advice is see the kit you want try get a discount but don't expect it or be put off if you don't get it l..
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You think they'd at least stretch to a pair of pads for an international! :D
HAHAHA smart (No Swearing Please)! Made me giggle