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Title: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: tom line on September 01, 2014, 10:18:15 PM
Hi all wasnt sure where to put this but, I was just wondering whether anyone knew what the measurements are for the length of the blade and and the length of the handle was on the mongoose mmi3 bat is as I have a part made and have decided I would like to try replicating it.
Thanks all
Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: Pelican042 on September 02, 2014, 10:08:27 AM
Basically equal, keep trying unil yup find it's the right size to cover most of your regular hitting area
Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 02, 2014, 10:11:49 AM
I'll try and remember to measure mine for you tonight buddy
Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: tom line on September 02, 2014, 11:50:33 AM
Basically equal, keep trying unil yup find it's the right size to cover most of your regular hitting area
Cheers I will bear this in mind while cutting it down

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I'll try and remember to measure mine for you tonight buddy
If you could that would be great cheers buddy
Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: cricketrob on September 02, 2014, 12:25:11 PM
39cm from toe to base of the shoulder

42.5 cm from toe to the bottom off the handle (roughly where the grip starts)

42cm length of the handle

They might not be 100% accurate but it's as accurate as I could see.
Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: tom line on September 02, 2014, 12:35:20 PM
39cm from toe to base of the shoulder

42.5 cm from toe to the bottom off the handle (roughly where the grip starts)

42cm length of the handle

They might not be 100% accurate but it's as accurate as I could see.
Thanks mate a great help
Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 02, 2014, 12:58:39 PM
39cm from toe to base of the shoulder

42.5 cm from toe to the bottom off the handle (roughly where the grip starts)

42cm length of the handle

They might not be 100% accurate but it's as accurate as I could see.
Saved me a job, cheers boss!
Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: cricketrob on September 02, 2014, 12:59:58 PM
No worries lads
Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: jwebber86 on September 02, 2014, 04:40:13 PM
i was going to measure mine tonight but its in the attic glad somebody beat me to it
Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: Vitas Cricket on September 02, 2014, 04:43:30 PM
If you are working with a part made, surely you won't be able to replicate an MMi?

Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: smilley792 on September 02, 2014, 04:45:54 PM
If you are working with a part made, surely you won't be able to replicate an MMi?

I can only presume he plans to shape the willow I to the extra large handle, as opposed to an extra large handle that the mongoose has?
Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: tom line on September 02, 2014, 04:50:34 PM
If you are working with a part made, surely you won't be able to replicate an MMi?



I plan to cut the blade down so shaping the rest of the handle out of willow I believe this is actually done on the mongoose as the handle is spliced in the handle to allow maximum hitting zone
Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: Vitas Cricket on September 02, 2014, 04:53:17 PM
I plan to cut the blade down so shaping the rest of the handle out of willow I believe this is actually done on the mongoose as the handle is spliced in the handle to allow maximum hitting zone

Correct a mongoose has a reverse splice. But if your part made has already been handled, there is only so much you can do isn't there? Removing willow around that area will create a weak point, which i think maybe was part of the reason behind the reverse splice on the mongoose?

Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: cricketrob on September 02, 2014, 05:44:24 PM
I've seen this sort of thing done before, it seemed to come out ok but getting the mongoose shape was apparently very hard and the toe and edge came out a lot smaller.
Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: tom line on September 02, 2014, 07:13:14 PM
Correct a mongoose has a reverse splice. But if your part made has already been handled, there is only so much you can do isn't there? Removing willow around that area will create a weak point, which i think maybe was part of the reason behind the reverse splice on the mongoose?


I plan to double twine to increase the strength of the join just incase I hope it isn't a problem but of it breaks I suppose it is a lesson learnt and the standard of cricket I play I doubt it will break especially as we use £20 balls in our league so there not bat breakers
Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: Red Ink Cricket on September 02, 2014, 09:22:16 PM
I made one early on when I first started making for a bit of fun. Was made from a part made and I've had no issues with it. It's actually an absolute rocket! I just left the lower part of the handle a little thicker. Not massively but just a bit thicker. Seems to do ok.
Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: tom line on September 02, 2014, 09:48:47 PM
I made one early on when I first started making for a bit of fun. Was made from a part made and I've had no issues with it. It's actually an absolute rocket! I just left the lower part of the handle a little thicker. Not massively but just a bit thicker. Seems to do ok.
That's great new thanks I was a little worried now since someone had brought it up. Do you mind me asking how you cut the shoulders down ? I was planning on using a bandsaw
Thanks
Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: Tom on September 02, 2014, 10:29:27 PM
The Mongoose doesn't (or at least didn't) have a reverse splice. In fact the early Kashmir junior bats were made entirely from Adult Kashmir willow bats cut down and shaped here in the UK
Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: Tom on September 02, 2014, 10:43:24 PM
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/02thoeva/IMG00005-20100129-1152.jpg)
The bat on the right here is an untwined Mongoose. Hard to see the splice, but it's a standard one I assure you
Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: tom line on September 02, 2014, 10:45:19 PM
([url]http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/02thoeva/IMG00005-20100129-1152.jpg[/url])
The bat on the right here is an untwined Mongoose. Hard to see the splice, but it's a standard one I assure you

To be fair I always thought the splice was normal but up in the handle
Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: Tom on September 02, 2014, 10:54:17 PM
Yep that's correct. However, under Appendix E of the MCC laws the blade cannot protrude more than 2.5" into the bound handle area and only 2.75" of the blade can be covered in grip.

To circumvent this law you have to slice through the the 'ears' (where the blade meets the handle) at a certain point. This is why the Mongoose had a large covering of grip tape (which is actually deemed a sticker within the MCC laws) so the cut is actually made closer to 3" from the base of the splice.

(http://i.imgur.com/zsVIwHp.png)

The design may have changed, this is the design up until 2011/12.
Title: Re: Mongoose mmi3 specs
Post by: tom line on September 03, 2014, 08:33:51 AM


I doubt at the level of cricket I play they're going to question. It but thanks for the info anyway very interesting