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Companies => Off-the-shelf companies => Gunn & Moore => Topic started by: Kulli on September 23, 2014, 08:39:34 AM
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One of the lads I play with over here (he only plays a few games a season as he's ridiculously good compared to our level) used to play with a few (mainly now retired or past it) kiwi internationals, and being a typically laid back Kiwi if he needed any kit he usually just got in touch with any of them who happened to be playing in the Uk at the time and got them to send over any gear they were done with.
Anyway, this particular bat was sent by Hamish Marshall as it had begun to crack at the edges. I've no ideal if he ever used GM or it was just one that someone else in the Gloucester side had broken and was going to throw out, but now it's pretty much dead I though you guys might like a few snaps of it, as I've never seen a GM this grainy before. I might try and give her a refurb but the middles pretty delaminated and the edges are all beginning to splinter.
It reminds me a bit of Dave's Trott copy in that it's go no concaving and is pretty much as thick edge wise at the shoulders as it is at the middle. It currently weights around 2'8 but is pretty dry so may have been a bit heavier before.
Also, it's be good to know if it is a regular shaped Purist II, or if someone can spot if it is even a GM or not.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/057_zps27a0d170.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/059_zps3dccbb3a.jpg)
I counted around 25 grains, but they don't run that straight so it's not 27 all over.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/060_zpsf1fdf53b.jpg)
I can snap some better pictures if there's anything anyone wants to see.
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I love a good retro bat - I miss GM's old stickers, there's something quite cool about them...
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it looks trott ish, but i dont think its spot on. its not a pursit either i dont think.
speaking to a ex gm employee, he said not many pros used stock gm profiles, they all have there own designs that were stickered up to the gm current range(hence some gm pros bats saying pro instead of the 909 sticker)
so id say its a genuine pro bat.
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Speaking to some pros they find them just at there best when the middle delaminates! and a bat will stay a net bat until it does.
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it looks trott ish, but i dont think its spot on. its not a pursit either i dont think.
speaking to a ex gm employee, he said not many pros used stock gm profiles, they all have there own designs that were stickered up to the gm current range(hence some gm pros bats saying pro instead of the 909 sticker)
so id say its a genuine pro bat.
Yeah, it's definitely not the same profile, it was just the first thing that struck me was that the edges were equally chunky towards the top of the blade as with that shape.
The only other thing I noticed was that it had rubber inserts in the handle and I though all Gm bats had cork, but it's possible that's only certain model, or that if you're good enough to be sponsored you can request it. Would like to know who's bat it was, but my knowledge of bats used by Gloucester players around the 2008 season is pretty sketchy.
Speaking to some pros they find them just at there best when the middle delaminates! and a bat will stay a net bat until it does.
This one was a bit delaminated when I first saw it and absolutely flew, but is now probably well beyond the point where it's at it's best.
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That might be a Gidman bat.
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That might be a Gidman bat.
That would make sense, found plenty of pics of him using a Purist II, but none with a high enough res. to really make out the shape properly.
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Flipping heck, that's a lot of grains! I heard from a retailer up here that he saw some of Flemming's bats, which had 30 grains on them! (Was a few years ago, but pretty sure he said 30!) Seems like the Kiwis love their grains!
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Here's my grainy Purist II which unfortunately also had a smashed toe...
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd117/fake_street_spirit/DSC_0414.jpg)
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd117/fake_street_spirit/DSC_0418.jpg)
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Got in touch with GM who were able to tell me the following
Made 13th May 2009 on the then new CNC machine and finished by head batmaker Kevin Stimpson
For Alex Gidman
Original weight 2'10 in the catalyst shape
so 10 points to @Alvaro for his guesswork.
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Picked up another GM pro bat, again just a regular county player so likely nothing too special about the cleft or shape compared to an off the shelf OLE, but it's still pretty grainalicious looking (I make out about 16-17, so a few less then the other bat, but still pretty).
Chris Dent's, presumably from last season or the season before. any Gm experts able to tell me a likely year and if it looks like a standard Octane.
Still at my folks place in the UK so will give it a clean up and post some better photo's once I have my grubby mitt's on it if anyone wants.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/IMG_5004_zpspgcwmcnv.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/IMG_5004_zpspgcwmcnv.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/IMG_5001_zpstqw4pzjh.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/IMG_5001_zpstqw4pzjh.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/IMG_5007_zpsvxdaeic2.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/IMG_5007_zpsvxdaeic2.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/IMG_5003_zpstsdc7iiu.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/IMG_5003_zpstsdc7iiu.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/IMG_5002_zpsdzp8svdd.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/IMG_5002_zpsdzp8svdd.jpg.html)
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1 1/2 grips on it??
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Nice. Given Chris's fluctuating bouts of scoring, this will have little or loads of life left in it... ;)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/IMG_5006_zpsrc3ghvhj.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/IMG_5006_zpsrc3ghvhj.jpg.html)
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I would be really tempted to pay the money for a GM re-furb for this bat - it will come back looking brand new
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I would be really tempted to pay the money for a GM re-furb for this bat - it will come back looking brand new
I was tempted by that with the older one also, but I do remember someone sending one off then having some issues as GM weren't really too happy with sponsored players giving away bats.
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I was tempted by that with the older one also, but I do remember someone sending one off then having some issues as GM weren't really too happy with sponsored players giving away bats.
Thats be GM are just awkward! Heard nothing but poor things about the people
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If I took a walk through my local wooded area, I wouldn't see as many grains as this thread is offering!!
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Thats be GM are just awkward! Heard nothing but poor things about the people
Easily the friendliest and most helpful big brand we deal with.
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Thats be GM are just awkward! Heard nothing but poor things about the people
I recently had 3 OLE's sent off for a refurb to GM and they were really good! The finish on them was unbelievable and they turned them around in a week which I thought was great. The only issue I has was that they missed my request for 2 grips on each of the bats which was a little annoying however the quality of the refurb helped me get over it!
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Easily the friendliest and most helpful big brand we deal with.
Fair enough Jake, probably because you're giving them their income
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I recently had 3 OLE's sent off for a refurb to GM and they were really good! The finish on them was unbelievable and they turned them around in a week which I thought was great. The only issue I has was that they missed my request for 2 grips on each of the bats which was a little annoying however the quality of the refurb helped me get over it!
Before and after photos? :D
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Easily the friendliest and most helpful big brand we deal with.
I contacted them about a replacement for a storm damaged bat bought in NZ, and they couldn't have been more helpful.
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=18083.msg288064#msg288064 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=18083.msg288064#msg288064)
Just wondered if this was just one issue they were a bit thorny on.
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Before and after photos? :D
I'll see if I can dig some out!
Sadly had to sell 2 of them to help fund a holiday but there is still £35 left over which has gone towards my 'B3 Fund' :D
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If you took the scuff off would they really be able to tell its Dent's bat? Shape doesn't look too dissimilar from a regular octane.
I never though of that, the first one I had had an unusual shape and marking to register when and who it was made for. I'll maybe just give GM a call and ask.
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Finally got my grubby mitts of this last night, will give it a clean up and post some photos. Weight is 2'9 and it goes pretty well.
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Was going to ask you what it's like mate. Did it come with the 1 1/2 grips on?
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I don't know what the standard Octane shape is, but it's a pretty similar shame to the one I started this thread with, maybe just a slightly lower middle, but the same chunky edges. Had a half grip underneath. It also had a half face length of batting tape on each edge under the antiscuff which was a pain to remove. Just about managed to get the A/S off without losing the stickers.
Maybe someone with one can tell me if it's the standard Octane shape or not.
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Dent, strangely using an Adidas bat with GM softs against Essex, returned to the Octane for his 180 against Derby today. It was the off the shelf shape.
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Finally got my grubby mitts of this last night, will give it a clean up and post some photos. Weight is 2'9 and it goes pretty well.
Can your mate get me one please? Would really appreciate it!! 👀
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I read on Twitter that Dent got his kit robbed from his car so would explain using an adidas
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I believe that was one of Benny Howell's mate.
Cheers. Shame GN have flicked benny.
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Here's a few hastily snapped pics
Profile, can someone confirm if it's a regular Octane shape?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/IMG_5815_zpspxjsu56p.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/IMG_5815_zpspxjsu56p.jpg.html)
Not quite only a face a mother could love, but an unusual one, couple of big wide heartwood grains on the outside edge followed by some very tight grains across the middle, I counted around 17 in total.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/IMG_5813_zpstnfrgt5w.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/IMG_5813_zpstnfrgt5w.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/IMG_5814_zpsuq4c4rdb.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/IMG_5814_zpsuq4c4rdb.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/IMG_5816_zpsg31grklj.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/IMG_5816_zpsg31grklj.jpg.html)
Few surface cracks needing repairing but otherwise she's in good condition, big for the weight and goes as well as anything else I own. Bargain for under £100.
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Is it just me or can anyone else not see the pictures?
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Is it just me or can anyone else not see the pictures?
Just you.
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I don't have a profile shot of my octane but the peak of the spine rises sharper then drops quickly.
Yours definately seems a different shape.
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Turns out its my works web filtering that is blocking the pics for some weird reason.
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I don't have a profile shot of my octane but the peak of the spine rises sharper then drops quickly.
Yours definately seems a different shape.
have to agree. looks different to a standard octane
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No number on the handle this time so can't find out what shape it is and who it was maid for from GM this time :(
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Is it definItely a GM?
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The scuff sheet (and tape) were under the stickers so that made me presume so, only thing i wondered about is it has cork inserts instead of rubbert in the handle, but I know Gm do both, though though it was only cork in lower models?
No real way to confirm but all the usual signs (shoulders toe) etc point towards it being GM made, can post photos if anyone thinks they can tell for sure.
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Definitely non-Octanian by the profile pic!
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Looks like an older model GM, purist 2 vintage.
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It's a very similar shape to the Purist stickered Catalyst I posted earlier, will snap one of them together tonight if I remember.
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Some poorly taken photos suggest it's very similar in shape to the Gidman catalyst I got before, but the knob on the handle is markedly different so unless GM have hanged that over the years maybe it's stickered up, though GM do insist this doesn't happen.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-04/113987EB-79CA-49E0-A096-FE5685DAE081_zpszlsquaxp.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-04/113987EB-79CA-49E0-A096-FE5685DAE081_zpszlsquaxp.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-04/5E872753-CB82-474F-B9A4-C36E8D0F6C8E_zpsuqdyt5x1.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-04/5E872753-CB82-474F-B9A4-C36E8D0F6C8E_zpsuqdyt5x1.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-04/39C86DD4-66F8-4BEA-AD1E-F15E4B1D738B_zpsal9hcykj.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-04/39C86DD4-66F8-4BEA-AD1E-F15E4B1D738B_zpsal9hcykj.jpg.html)
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The handle on the left seems a lot thinner than the one on the right
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The one on the left is definitely GM made.
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In that case the one on the right seems a lot thicker handle than the definite GM 😛
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This might help
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=33114.msg521477#msg521477 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=33114.msg521477#msg521477)
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This might help
[url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=33114.msg521477#msg521477[/url] ([url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=33114.msg521477#msg521477[/url])
Top knob knowledge
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I knew all that knob action would come in handy at some point!
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Modesty forbids me from commenting on this thread...................
OH WHO AM I KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jake, who seem to be knob-king at the moment - why would anyone change the shape of their knob?
And what is your view on having a smaller knob at the end of the length?
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I suppose it's not how big the knob is at the end of your wood, it's what you do with it that counts.
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I would be really tempted to pay the money for a GM re-furb for this bat - it will come back looking brand new
This is now on it's way back from GM, will post some photos once received.
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@Kulli does your Pro GM have players' initials and a number next to it on the handle?
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@Kulli does your Pro GM have players' initials and a number next to it on the handle?
This one doesn't or it had rubbed off, the First one had AG12 as it was Alex Gidmans.
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This one doesn't or it had rubbed off, the First one had AG12 as it was Alex Gidmans.
Good to know. Has it on mine too http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=42238.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=42238.0)
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Just arrived back from GM, only disappointing is they have downgraded it from a LE to a plain old Original, stinky!
When I bought it
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/IMG_5004_zpspgcwmcnv.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/IMG_5004_zpspgcwmcnv.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/IMG_5001_zpstqw4pzjh.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/IMG_5001_zpstqw4pzjh.jpg.html)
After a quick clean up
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/IMG_5813_zpstnfrgt5w.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/IMG_5813_zpstnfrgt5w.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/IMG_5814_zpsuq4c4rdb.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/IMG_5814_zpsuq4c4rdb.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/IMG_5816_zpsg31grklj.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/IMG_5816_zpsg31grklj.jpg.html)
After a Gm clean up.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/WhatsApp%20Image%202017-05-13%20at%2014.26.24_zpsr5uchkq3.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/WhatsApp%20Image%202017-05-13%20at%2014.26.24_zpsr5uchkq3.jpeg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/WhatsApp%20Image%202017-05-13%20at%2014.25.42_zpsrspi0px0.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/WhatsApp%20Image%202017-05-13%20at%2014.25.42_zpsrspi0px0.jpeg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/WhatsApp%20Image%202017-05-13%20at%2014.25.16_zpsmnhhvvvy.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/WhatsApp%20Image%202017-05-13%20at%2014.25.16_zpsmnhhvvvy.jpeg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/WhatsApp%20Image%202017-05-13%20at%2014.25.58_zpskyoaht9b.jpeg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/WhatsApp%20Image%202017-05-13%20at%2014.25.58_zpskyoaht9b.jpeg.html)
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Looks fab!
Well worth the outlay for a refurb.
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Yup, they've done a great job, that said it'll probably end up for sale, wife's complaining that there's no room in the garage and I do agree that having more bats than I play a season may be seen by some as excessive.
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This in now on eBay, for no other reason than I have 10+ bats, and this is one of the ones likely to fetch the most cash given it's a big brand.
I'm not injured or leaving the country, just a CBF bat addict with a Mrs who wants some garage space back.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282497968815?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282497968815?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649)