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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: Hobnobs27 on October 10, 2014, 05:24:42 PM
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Do you think there should be a series where continents such
As Asia and Australasia (Australia and new eland
Etc
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I can't see it working except as one offs.
There was a very good Asia vs Rest of World game a few years ago.
I'd be more interested in a RoW team take on things like this.
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European, African and North American team wouldn't work too well :D.
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The European one-day team would be interesting.
I wouldn't expect it to be full of the English players. I would suggest a few of Irish, Scots and Dutch would be in there too. Especially the Dutch.
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The European one-day team would be interesting.
I wouldn't expect it to be full of the English players. I would suggest a few of Irish, Scots and Dutch would be in there too. Especially the Dutch.
Couldn't really see anyone getting into it that isn't English bar Ryan Ten Doeschate really myself.
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Do you think really Joel?
I think that you might change the management, but very few non english players would make the cut. They'd have been poached otherwise.
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Do you think really Joel?
I think that you might change the management, but very few non english players would make the cut. They'd have been poached otherwise.
Believe Ten Doeschate can qualify for England but has said directly in the past he would never dream of leaving the Netherlands? Not sure he's playing for them anymore due to Essex however?
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Sorry Sam I missed your post. There is an argument for ten Doeschate. I think he said something along those lines, beginning with 'being South African...'
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Sorry Sam I missed your post. There is an argument for ten Doeschate. I think he said something along those lines, beginning with 'being South African...'
Maybe not quite as patriotic as I remember it to be then :D.
Anyone know how he qualifies for the Netherlands? Did he move there when young?
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Dutch ancestry I would think.
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Link to Boer?
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Back on topic however I'd have thought he'd have a very good chance of getting in a European team, perhaps as the only non-English. Just curious, what would everyones world XI currently be for ODI's?
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Many South African have roots in The Netherlands which helps them play at that standard.
My point is that when you have a English coach picking an England team, he'll pick Alastair Cook.
If you have a coach who is more neutral, you will have many more questions asked around players such as Ten Doeschate, Joyce, Barresi and the likes.
If you look at the current England team as the basics, there are very few who could 'guarantee' being picked.
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Joyce has a ropey ODI record for Ireland given the amount of cricket played vs associates and is 36.
Who are the likes?
Like you said, an row XI would be better.
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Would have to assume an Asian XI would be majority Indian with perhaps Sangakarra, Mathews, Al Hasan and a couple of Pakistani players getting in.
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I think it would be interesting to base it on continental lines. Africa, Asia, australia, Europe, Americas (includes Windies) Kind of like a Cricket Ryder Cup tournament. Round Robin where each team plays every other and the top two face off in the final. I suspect it would always end up as Australasia v Asia on current ODI form.
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Joyce has a ropey ODI record for Ireland given the amount of cricket played vs associates and is 36.
Who are the likes?
Like you said, an row XI would be better.
Do you want me to go through my picks for every position in a European team?
Netherlands came above England in the last T20, so there must be decent players in there, like Cooper and TenDo.
Joyce averages 30-odd, which would be a fair bit higher if he was in a better team. Less pressure and more time to score runs. I believe most of the 'minnows' would be better if they got to play he bigger countries more often.
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Practically any decent European associate player would be guaranteed a place in in county cricket. Only 2 that have done so and taken good noticeable advantage of that are Joyce and Ten Doeschate.
Edit : Obviously you do have the likes of Tom Cooper however who is playing in Australia.
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Irish off top of my head
Tim Murtagh
George Dockrell
Kevin and Naill O'Brien
Can't think of any Dutch but can look into it.
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Seelaar is a good spinner.
Those Irish players have all had their day.
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Kevin is currently struggling to get a county contract and Neils fairly modest average of <30 in ODI cricket currently won't do him many favors.
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Seelar's a decent shout, a fairly defensive spinner than attacking from what I've seen however that would be better for ODI cricket I guess, doubt he'd get in a European team over Tredwell or the few English spinners behind him.
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Seelaar is a good spinner.
Those Irish players have all had their day.
Dockrell is only young.
The rest are mid-30s, ok for now. We are not talking long term.