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Title: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: Gurujames on November 22, 2014, 10:49:48 PM
Is slogging every ball over the hedge acceptable?
How long is a long enough bat?
Can you bat if you don't bowl?
How do you politely tell the clubs most successful batsman it's someone else's turn
Should fast bowlers bowl full pace.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 22, 2014, 11:03:34 PM
Is slogging every ball over the hedge acceptable?
if you want the bowlers to refuse to bowl to you go ahead
How long is a long enough bat?
depends how long you've got and how many people want a bat. Make sure everyone gets a go
Can you bat if you don't bowl?
At least have the decency to turn your arm over for a few deliveries, even as a token gesture. Nothing more annoying than the "I've had my bat, I'm going home" blokes
How do you politely tell the clubs most successful batsman it's someone else's turn
have the next person padded up at the top of the lane ready to go and shout "last 3 mate"
Should fast bowlers bowl full pace.
would you ask the opposition to slow it down in a game? No
Practice as if it's a game or you're not doing yourself any favours. We can all put gentle half volleys away!

Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: Gurujames on November 22, 2014, 11:15:44 PM
there is 1 A hole at our club who thinks it a good idea to biff everyone over the hedge. Now I just take a beer break when he is batting. I win on 2 counts. I do bowl a few half volleys though.
as an older guy I can't bat more than 10 mins in the nets anyway.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: smilley792 on November 22, 2014, 11:21:39 PM
What sort of net you got if you can constantly biff over the hedge??

Doesn't sound a great one.


In our mobile net only way to lose balls is with a very straight drive. If your good enough to do that then kudos.


Everyone bowls full pace. 

Time is whatever net time is divided by amount of batsman.  3rds no.11 gets the same amount of time as firsts opener.

No body line at non batsmen or people without helmets. 

Everyone must bounce dave.

And the most importantly rule if the net is. When our 1st skipper is batting do not take your eye off the ball under any circumstances! !!
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: Aussie on November 22, 2014, 11:38:50 PM
If someone doesn't wear a lid into the nets then they're fair game in my opinion. As bowlers we need to bowl like we would in a match and if someone in a match bats without a helmet then we as quicks have a responsibility to try and hit them!
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: The Palmist on November 23, 2014, 07:25:21 AM
someone in a match bats without a helmet then we as quicks have a responsibility to try and hit them!

somethings never change ;-)
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: jamielsn15 on November 23, 2014, 08:16:57 AM
A lid in an outdoor portable net is an absolute must - I've seen way too many balls pinball around of the metal structure after being hit...
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: Bat and Ball Cricket on November 23, 2014, 09:32:21 AM
If someone doesn't wear a lid into the nets then they're fair game in my opinion. As bowlers we need to bowl like we would in a match and if someone in a match bats without a helmet then we as quicks have a responsibility to try and hit them!

Depends what your nets are like. Most nets here in Australia are concrete with synthetic grass over the top. They play completely differently to turf pitches, where a reasonable amount of games are played.
So while i agree with 'as bowlers we need to bowl like we would in a match...' its actually quite difficult to bowl at training on concrete like you would in a game on grass.
Provided your facilities can cater for it, bowling full pace is really a must, both for batsmen and bowlers.

Also, love the fast bowls mentality here.... Lets not try and bowl decent lines to get the batsmen out, lets knock his head off!!!
Although, a mate of mine, as a fast bowler, believed there were two qualities to be a fast bowler. 1. Have a protruding lower lip & 2. Have the ability to drag their knuckles on the ground behind them.


Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: Seniorplayer on November 23, 2014, 09:50:40 AM
Bat as you would in a match bowl as you would in a match.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on November 23, 2014, 12:21:20 PM
Is slogging every ball over the hedge acceptable?

Can you bat if you don't bowl?



As soon as a slogger or someone just just biffs go in I give up bowling and either thown down crap that's pointless or walk away. People in nets for some reason play completely differently to game and it's obvious and a waste of both our times.

If you don't bowl then you need to ensure you either make a little effort by bowling in the weakest net OR you stay the whole net session to show that you are not one of the A HOLES who turn up late, bat and then 'have to' leave early.. All that happens with those types is we ensure the decent bowlers just bowl filth and put the crap on to make it pointless for them. If you can't respect you team mates tehn you don't deserve to have proper bowling anyway.


ps I have no time for club nets unless they are ran properly. A bowler bowling bouncers to take my head off who is a) not quick enough really b) wouldn't do that in a game just makes the net pointless. It's easy to bounce people on astro/indoor fellas... you aren't anything special
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: iand123 on November 23, 2014, 12:42:00 PM
Fast bowlers must bowl off of 17 yards claiming the length of the hall doesn't accomadate their run up regardless the length of the hall

Any new guy at his first net must be bowled at short for the entirety of the net
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: TangoWhiskey on November 24, 2014, 09:51:17 AM
As a former 'fast' bowler turned batsman due to my knees only having about 4 balls a session in them, I always make sure I bat first. I'll take a mental note of who tried to bump me and I'll repay the favour when it's their turn until my knees can't do it anymore.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: edge on November 24, 2014, 10:06:38 AM
If you slog constantly, prepare to get bounced! /comedy slower balls. Everyone enjoys a good hit out in nets over the winter, but don't be daft. Also if you can't be bothered to pick the ball up to lob it back to the bowler and you just bunt it along the floor, more bouncers. If you do both, you might just get bounced off 18 yards. Bowlers should obviously bowl full pace or what's the point for them?

Also the hall is never long enough! For my runup, anyway.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: edge on November 24, 2014, 10:07:11 AM
Oh and if you dish it out when bowling obviously you gotta be prepared to take it.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: RichW on November 24, 2014, 10:48:47 AM
I'm a batsman and slow bowler but my pet hate is fast bowlers who bowl no balls in the nets!!

I don't mind short bowling and bowlers should definitely go full pelt but bowling of 19 yards is unfair and dangerous.

You should practise batting and bowling as if it's a game, set situations like the first 10 overs or the last 5 overs discuss this with bowlers. But as it's a game situation it involves bowling from 22 yards!!
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: eukaryote76 on November 24, 2014, 11:15:02 AM
Bat as you would in a match bowl as you would in a match.
I agree completely, and suddenly am very grateful for those with whom I net. When I read the title of this thread I was expecting people to be talking about walking out the proper side of the net, returning balls that are closer to you than the bowler, not walking across lanes to get your kit, not leaving/ rolling balls back to the kit bag directly in front of somebody's run up…  etc.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: edge on November 24, 2014, 12:07:02 PM
I'm a batsman and slow bowler but my pet hate is fast bowlers who bowl no balls in the nets!!

I don't mind short bowling and bowlers should definitely go full pelt but bowling of 19 yards is unfair and dangerous.

You should practise batting and bowling as if it's a game, set situations like the first 10 overs or the last 5 overs discuss this with bowlers. But as it's a game situation it involves bowling from 22 yards!!
I get stick for this in nets (I don't go over delibarately unless for comedy/silly bouncer effect - the nets we use are unbelievably slow and low) but am told I routinely go a foot or so over. Never seen a massive problem with this as in an indoor net I'm not coming off a proper runup, my outdoor runup is consistent enough that I never bowl no balls in games. Why do batsmen (and it almost always is) get so annoyed by this? I should point out I'm a batsman who bowls and I'm not bothered by other quickies who do it as I don't think it makes any difference if they're a bit over the line.

As for netting as you would in a game, agree to an extent but how do you expect to learn any new skills or improve on your weaknesses? Eg. my driving isn't great so in a match I'll mostly leave stuff full outside off unless it's a real half volley, I see nets as a chance to practice a shot that otherwise I'll just be cutting out, with the aim of being able to score more runs in matches using it. Or from a bowling point of view, learning a new delivery - spent a solid month last winter bowling pretty much only back of the hand slower balls in nets, was all over the place at first but now I can bowl it accurately on demand. Not a ball I bring out all that often but it's definitely improved my t20 game, if I was concentrating on hitting top of off only in nets I'd never have learnt it.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: Buzz on November 24, 2014, 01:19:09 PM
I'm a batsman and slow bowler but my pet hate is fast bowlers who bowl no balls in the nets!!

I don't mind short bowling and bowlers should definitely go full pelt but bowling of 19 yards is unfair and dangerous.

You should practise batting and bowling as if it's a game, set situations like the first 10 overs or the last 5 overs discuss this with bowlers. But as it's a game situation it involves bowling from 22 yards!!

very much this - plus I really hate bowlers appealing and telling you you are out for everything oh and making up fielding positions too...

I get annoyed for this because (like with chucking) a load of your ability to react to where to move comes from the bowlers action - by moving it a metre forward it can throw your reaction and movement time - and it becomes a wasted practice session. Less of an issue with a medium bowler or slower.
But the point is as a batsman you need to practice your ractions time and reading of line and length (even if this is sibliminal).

As for the bowlers - if you get used to bowling the wrong length you look very silly outside and if you get used to bowling no balls - you do it under pressure.
At first class level they have cracked down on it for a good reason, clubs should too.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: Gurujames on November 24, 2014, 01:29:58 PM
I don't like it when the batsman can't be bothered to bend down, pick the ball up and throw it back to you. Hitting it like a hockey ball back is plain rude.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 24, 2014, 01:31:32 PM
I don't like it when the batsman can't be bothered to bend down, pick the ball up and throw it back to you. Hitting it like a hockey ball back is plain rude.
Unless it's a wide, then its deserved!
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: Stuey on November 24, 2014, 01:40:43 PM
Time is whatever net time is divided by amount of batsman.  3rds no.11 gets the same amount of time as firsts opener.
I've never understood why the tail get the same batting time as the top order, for the benefit of the team surely it makes more sense for the top order to have more batting time than the tail.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 24, 2014, 01:55:43 PM
I've never understood why the tail get the same batting time as the top order, for the benefit of the team surely it makes more sense for the top order to have more batting time than the tail.
Surely it makes more sense for the tail to practice and improve than the bloke who scores heaps of runs to bat most of the session?
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: TangoWhiskey on November 24, 2014, 02:26:41 PM
I've never understood why the tail get the same batting time as the top order, for the benefit of the team surely it makes more sense for the top order to have more batting time than the tail.

I wouldn't expect someone to come and bowl at me all day in the nets and then only bowl at them for 5 minutes. Most people are there for the enjoyment, it's not pro standard so if they want a bat they should get one.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: Stuey on November 24, 2014, 02:27:32 PM
Surely it makes more sense for the tail to practice and improve than the bloke who scores heaps of runs to bat most of the session?
I don't agree, you want the top order to score at least 75% of the teams runs, having them spend the bulk of the net session bowling or standing around whilst the tail who may bat every other week bat use up the equal amount of time, doesn't make sense to me. It's similar to having your bowlers standing around waiting to bowl whilst everyone in the team has a trundle. It's not an effective use of the net session.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: The Palmist on November 24, 2014, 03:38:24 PM
I don't agree, you want the top order to score at least 75% of the teams runs, having them spend the bulk of the net session bowling or standing around whilst the tail who may bat every other week bat use up the equal amount of time, doesn't make sense to me. It's similar to having your bowlers standing around waiting to bowl whilst everyone in the team has a trundle. It's not an effective use of the net session.
Your logic is correct but this is amateur cricket. Most in my league play for the fun of it. If they don't get to bat, they will just stop turning up. We have very few people who actually enjoy bowling over batting. Most would like to bat whether they can or not is another thing.

You cannot expect people to turn up week after week, pay five quid or so and do not even get to bat.

Problem with our nets is quality of bowling. Most of the main bowlers do not bother turning up and you end up facing part timers or non bowlers for the whole session.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: smilley792 on November 24, 2014, 04:02:17 PM
Up until the age of 21 I used to bat 11. I now open for the 1st team and got picked for the league rep side as a batsmen.

Do you think I improved by getting only 3 mins a net due to being a "bowler?"


Anyone that thinks batsmen should get longer bats then anyone else in an amateur club is rather selfish. And I wouldn't want to play cricket with them.

Everyone pays there membership and net fee's, and all deserve the exact same chances of practice.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: The Palmist on November 24, 2014, 04:07:58 PM
We have some Divas who turn up late, get padded up and people just let them bat and bat and bat. I would usually get ready and call time.

This season I am going to have a stern word with net organisers and will make it clear that if they don't work on a fair system then I am not wasting my time and money.

There were a few occasions last season where I didn't get to bat or had to remind people repeatedly that others need to bat as well. Most of the second teamers are very mild natured and will suffer in silence than speak up.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 24, 2014, 04:14:07 PM
Up until the age of 21 I used to bat 11. I now open for the 1st team and got picked for the league rep side as a batsmen.

Do you think I improved by getting only 3 mins a net due to being a "bowler?"


Anyone that thinks batsmen should get longer bats then anyone else in an amateur club is rather selfish. And I wouldn't want to play cricket with them.

Everyone pays there membership and net fee's, and all deserve the exact same chances of practice.

This!

Last season I batted in the "academy nets" (anyone up to age 27 qualified I think) once in 5 weeks, for a whole 10 minutes.
When I asked the "head coach" why I  never got to bat he simply said "you're a bowler, you're here to bowl at the proper batsmen"
I politely told him I wasn't going to improve my batting by not getting a go, and felt these sessions were a waste of time. When I was basically told tough I made a point of finding other things to do on a Friday night for the rest of the 12 week course, why waste money to be told I can't bat, because the same 4 or 5 people were batting for the whole session every week.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on November 24, 2014, 04:21:29 PM
On the batter vs bowler subject this is my take.

I play club cricket but a decent level of it and in our 1st team the early nets for pre season are very much bowlers bowl and batters bat. This is agreed and has been for many years. However at the moments it's a fair split of everybody bats for the amount of time divided by how many turn up.

Out 2/3 team operate in the same way as well. It annoys a few but the majority agree it's the right way but I get not all play a decent level and even some that do will disagree

I must say I do agree with the putting the ball back instead of picking it up and tossing it back does make me bang it in a yard or so further back each time. Although as a hobbit doesn't make much difference tbh lol
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 24, 2014, 04:33:29 PM
@SOULMAN1012 pre season is a different one, as people need to "get back into it" after a winter of overeating and drinking too much. However, after that initial stage of the season, decent level or not we all pay fees, so everyone deserves the chance to bat.

Regardless of the standard, at the end of the day it's still club cricket. None of us are Pro's, we all turn up to enjoy ourselves, if I start getting told I can't bat at nets I'll just not turn up. Why should I pay my hard earned money to not get a bat?
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: tushar sehgal on November 24, 2014, 04:45:01 PM
In our nets everyone gets exactly the same amount of time batting (and bowling to some extent) but we have tried a couple different ways of who goes first. Originally it was always batsmen bat first and bowlers bowl first, as the batsmen finish their turn then all-rounders and then bowlers get to bat, bowling was a decent mix of everyone else who was not batting, we even had 3 lanes of fast bowlers, spinners and medium for each lane so if a batsman had 9 mins to bat he would switch lanes from fast bowlers to a different variety after 3 mins so all 3 batsmen batting at the same time get a good mix.

That was all good but then the problem was guys who turned up late and just padded up or loitered around, so we changed to first come first serve. Guys show up, their name goes on the list and we all bat in that order, we let off the different bowlers in each lane and batsmen switch as that was wasting time, we just do a good mix of each bowling type in each lane and you bat your entire time in one lane. Its pretty tiring when you have 10 bowlers lined up one after another to come at you non-stop for 9 mins.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: Stuey on November 24, 2014, 04:50:27 PM
On the batter vs bowler subject this is my take.

I play club cricket but a decent level of it and in our 1st team the early nets for pre season are very much bowlers bowl and batters bat. This is agreed and has been for many years. However at the moments it's a fair split of everybody bats for the amount of time divided by how many turn up.

Out 2/3 team operate in the same way as well. It annoys a few but the majority agree it's the right way but I get not all play a decent level and even some that do will disagree

I must say I do agree with the putting the ball back instead of picking it up and tossing it back does make me bang it in a yard or so further back each time. Although as a hobbit doesn't make much difference tbh lol
Sounds very much like our nets, it's never been an issue. 
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on November 24, 2014, 05:05:27 PM
I dislike net sessions where (usually) one or two people get too loud.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: trypewriter on November 24, 2014, 05:11:57 PM
I don't like it when the batsman can't be bothered to bend down, pick the ball up and throw it back to you. Hitting it like a hockey ball back is plain rude.

Oops, thanks for the heads up - I genuinely didn't know that... Most guys that I've seen do it... :o
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on November 24, 2014, 06:39:12 PM
I've never understood why the tail get the same batting time as the top order, for the benefit of the team surely it makes more sense for the top order to have more batting time than the tail.

Umm. it's not county cricket. regardless of your level it's purely for fun. That no:11 probably loves batting as much as the opener so deserves the same time. He's pays his money just as much as you do.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: Sam on November 24, 2014, 06:41:07 PM
The England timetable in Sri Lanka  :D :

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Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: Stuey on November 24, 2014, 10:09:12 PM
Umm. it's not county cricket. regardless of your level it's purely for fun. That no:11 probably loves batting as much as the opener so deserves the same time. He's pays his money just as much as you do.
That's not my experience of 20 years of league cricket, teams want to win first and practise accordingly. Players buy into it, because they want to win. The fun comes from the winning then having a beer after. Its not that tail enders never bat or bats never bowl, just that training is tailored to ensure the bowlers bowl more balls and the bats receive more.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: petehosk on November 24, 2014, 11:57:01 PM
We have free nets which is brilliant. You would think more would turn up but we get anything from 5 to 20!
The Captain usually works out if we are using 1 or 2 lanes. Then works out how many have turned up and splits the batting time equally, which is fair I reckon!
Then he puts in the highest order batsmen to start with - that way if 3 or 4 more arrive 30 minutes late and therefore each player gets 12 minutes instead of the original 17 minutes, the upper order batsmen are the ones who get the slightly longer time! And the late arrivals normally end up batting last and for the shortest time!
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: jazz15c on April 08, 2015, 02:52:01 PM
We have 4 teams at our club. There are 3 net bays, which blend in the following way - 

3's & 4's
2's & 3's
1's & 2's

Everyone gets the same amount of time batting, regardless of whether they are the Overseas Pro or they bat number 8 in the 4th team and their only shot is the 'mid-wicket drive'

I always encourage (and practice what I preach) people to bat as they would in a match, and put a premium on their wicket ('Can't make runs in the pavilion')

One bowler springs to mind that bowls short of a length constantly in nets. He's young, plays in the 2's, has a fair bit of pace. But as I keep reminding him, if you bowl this rubbish on spongey/damp Devon decks, rather than an artificial/astro turf net pitch, you are going to disappear over the houses! Utterly pointless practice for both him and me.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: SLC on April 08, 2015, 02:56:16 PM
Annoys me when you see quick bowlers dobbing down leg breaks for a laff.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: KarlPennington on April 08, 2015, 03:41:23 PM
Is mine the only amateur club in which the opening batsmen are usually the opening bowlers too?? Or at least everyone fancies themselves as an all-rounder. Amateur cricket is about participation first and foremost. Of course winning is important but you can't win if you can't get a squad. I made the step up from 2nds to 1sts last year and at times the fact I had paid £10 to bat at 9, 10, 11 and not bowl whilst my teammate had paid £10 to open the bat and bowl 10 overs really used to grind my gears. Fortunately I'm competative and my amateur football days taught me if you get dropped/subbed don't complain about not being in the 'clique' and leave, but train hard and prove you are good enough.

So In my opinion everyone should have the opportunity to bat in nets, better batsmen are going to get more time in the middle anyway come game day.

My other opinion is don't bowl half-trackers to inexperienced, lesser quality players if you're not willing to do it to the players who will destroy your short-stuff.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: HallamKeeper on April 08, 2015, 04:24:23 PM
We are only a one team club so we get around 6-7 at pre-season nets. I went to the first one then decided to do my own thing. I got 10 minutes and faced around 40 balls. As 3 of us don't really bowl and one of our medium pacers decided to bowl awful off spin I got probably 15 balls that weren't wide or general rubbish. Our fast bowler just tried to knock my head off and when I was done I thought the only thing I'm going to get out of these sessions is a broken bone.

As for netiquette, I don't like fast bowlers thinking they are Mitchell Johnson because they can get bounce from a concrete floor while the batsmen are trying to prepare for April pitches. Also think it is pretty bad when kids come along and someone decides to smash their bowling every ball.   
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: RF on April 08, 2015, 07:40:15 PM
Netiquette
If you bat you should bowl
Throw the ball back rather than putt it
Don't smash the junior bowlers
Don't bounce batsmen that can't handle it.

My club nets are pretty much a waste of time as the facilities are poor and no-one takes it seriously that's why I've enjoyed meeting some of the lads from here.

I've also changed my view about practicing against bowling machines, I think (hope) it's really helped me. Still probably get a duck at the weekend though
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 08, 2015, 10:14:52 PM
Used a sidearm pro for the first time tonight. Got there early and did an hour just bowling at stumps so I wouldn't kill anyone, then for two hours I bowled. It's awesome, better than normal bowling for sure, you get more balls, usually quicker and once you get into it you can bowl Yorkers, bouncers, cutters, swingers on command. Unlike 99% of bowlers
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: HallamKeeper on April 09, 2015, 02:11:28 PM
We have one but we are a little reluctant to use it after the first batsman got beamed. We really need to practice with it, seems like a great tool in the right hands.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 09, 2015, 02:39:41 PM
We have one but we are a little reluctant to use it after the first batsman got beamed. We really need to practice with it, seems like a great tool in the right hands.

I bowled at a batsmen for 60. Mins. .  After 90 mins self training. 1 waist high full toss and one chest high (both down leg side). I'd not use it against a non helmeted batsmen but once you learn to use it it's great. Defo an excellent addition to training to add a few hours onto it a week
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: smilley792 on April 09, 2015, 02:43:36 PM
We use ours.  Or I should say mine often in the summer. Some like them. Some don't.  But it means a non bowler can help train a batsmen. And it also helps stop fatigue for one the batsmen last in a 2 hr net normal gets half pace or all spinners.


Amusingly though. An under 17 picked it up for have a go when tired. His first attempt. Tried to throw it way to hard. Ball went high and wide. And put a dent in our electric score box...... which is some 100 plus away from our artificial!

But on the other hand. One guy is so accurate he can come of a small run up with the pro. And we reckon it's hitting 90 - 95mph. ..... pretty unplayable at our standard.

Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: SLC on April 09, 2015, 02:45:54 PM
Most peopled net rules:

Thou shalt walk down the track to at least 50% of the spin deliveries you gave
If it's off the stump, thou shall try to smash it.
If it is upon the stumps, thou shall probably try to smash it anyway
Thou shall gibe thy mates massive send offs
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 09, 2015, 02:47:15 PM
We use ours.  Or I should say mine often in the summer. Some like them. Some don't.  But it means a non bowler can help train a batsmen. And it also helps stop fatigue for one the batsmen last in a 2 hr net normal gets half pace or all spinners.


Amusingly though. An under 17 picked it up for have a go when tired. His first attempt. Tried to throw it way to hard. Ball went high and wide. And put a dent in our electric score box...... which is some 100 plus away from our artificial!

But on the other hand. One guy is so accurate he can come of a small run up with the pro. And we reckon it's hitting 90 - 95mph. ..... pretty unplayable at our standard.

Oh I only did standing throws and was probably 65ish (give or take), might need to try and little run up. I wasn't putting loads of effort in though as I wanted to learn and be accurate
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: Boondougal on April 09, 2015, 03:07:37 PM

Netiquette
If you bat you should bowl
Throw the ball back rather than putt it
Don't smash the junior bowlers
Don't bounce batsmen that can't handle it.

My club nets are pretty much a waste of time as the facilities are poor and no-one takes it seriously that's why I've enjoyed meeting some of the lads from here.

I've also changed my view about practicing against bowling machines, I think (hope) it's really helped me. Still probably get a duck at the weekend though

Errr... Let's have non of that chat captain! First ball 6 straight back over the bowlers head if you don't mind!
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: horseman on April 09, 2015, 03:25:38 PM
Standard as a left hander to stand and watch the ball sail down leg side with the 'good ball to a right hander' quickly following from the bowler.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: jazz15c on April 10, 2015, 09:21:17 AM
Standard as a left hander to stand and watch the ball sail down leg side with the 'good ball to a right hander' quickly following from the bowler.

This. I feel your pain. I normally make a point of catching them and throwing them back with a disdainful glance  ;)

People then have the audacity to remark that 'he's only good off his legs'...that'll be because you lot give me plenty of practice there  :D
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: TBONTB on April 10, 2015, 09:56:43 AM
I went to the Oval Friday session thing the other week. Two blokes in our net bowled, but once they had batted they left. So I bowled for everybody and batted last and it meant only two people bowled at me and by that point they were knackered (not their fault). No mention of an apology or a thanks they just pissed off. Which sort of sums up that whole evening really!
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: Chalkie on April 10, 2015, 10:12:11 AM
I went to the Oval Friday session thing the other week. Two blokes in our net bowled, but once they had batted they left. So I bowled for everybody and batted last and it meant only two people bowled at me and by that point they were knackered (not their fault). No mention of an apology or a thanks they just pissed off. Which sort of sums up that whole evening really!

I had similar at our indoor net last night - as one of the main bowlers for the team the skip was keen that all the main batsmen faced me so I put plenty of balls down.  It was only when I prompted him near the end of the session that I got a chance to face a few myself, and by then half the guys had gone and the rest weren't really interested so didnt get get much out of it. But he did compliment me on my bowling so cant complain too much. Will be asking to bat earlier next week.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: Chalkie on April 10, 2015, 10:21:21 AM
Also - not so much an unspoken rule but a must do - if you are waiting in line to bowl always face the net and watch what is going on!

We had 2 guys struck by well hit balls at indoor nets last night - the team were playing unusually straight  ;)

One on the side of the head, fortunately no serious damage but could have been really nasty if someone hadnt taken some pace off it first. The other guy will have a vividly coloured round bruise on his thigh this morning.

Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: TangoWhiskey on April 10, 2015, 10:32:44 AM
We share nets at Hertfordshire Uni with other teams. Had to stop once as some old boy who should have known better was clocked whilst not watching the ball whilst the paramedics came in. We've got an old duffer in our team who seems incapable of watching the net too so I suppose our unwritten rule is to protect him at all times.
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 10, 2015, 10:34:51 AM
I've literally only bothered with one indoor club net due to it being a waste of time. To sort of price the point, the cub have had... One rib cracked, one elbow smacked, one hit in the eye socket and is now permenantly blurred vision and at least 5 people refusing to attend nets due to the ease of bowling short for ,edium plodders who,shouldn't ever bowl short.

I only attended this week as I wanted to learn to use the sidearm.

I've had all the main batsmen appear at my barn wanting 'proper' nets as 10-25 mins a week against random bowling just isn't enough
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: Chalkie on April 10, 2015, 10:55:43 AM
I've had all the main batsmen appear at my barn wanting 'proper' nets as 10-25 mins a week against random bowling just isn't enough

Sounds like you have a decent set up for practice - do you have a picture (or it doesnt exist..  ;))

Dont suppose you are anywhere near Guildford...?
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 10, 2015, 11:54:22 AM
Sounds like you have a decent set up for practice - do you have a picture (or it doesnt exist..  ;))

Dont suppose you are anywhere near Guildford...?

It's on previous threads. Cheltenham
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: MD2812 on April 10, 2015, 01:10:06 PM
My biggest net pet hate (made worse by recent England kits)

The person (worse if fast bowler) who turns up in a red top!!

Rages me!

Tend not to bowl at nets, myself and the 1sts keeper do keeping drills. Thankfully we have the numbers to cover, and my 25mph seam bowling isn't exactly challenging the batsmen
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: TangoWhiskey on April 10, 2015, 01:24:54 PM
Yeah one of our quickies is an Arsenal fan. Lucky he's dropped a couple of yards so I can pick him up a bit easier but a couple of years back he was near enough unplayable. Used to wear his shirt on purpose too despite many a batsman's plea...
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: jamielsn15 on April 10, 2015, 01:49:56 PM
Unspoken rules - ensure the 2nd team skipper knows the difference between the heat lamp switches and the light switches, especially when the first team opening bowler is haring in at full pelt...
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: Bowlers Name Please on April 10, 2015, 01:55:59 PM
Pretty obvious but everyone needs to keep their eyes on what's going on.  I've seen so many near misses this winter which could have easily gone pretty badly for those involved if they had been hit  :o

Also I think everyone shares the gripe of the first few batsmen not bowling or messing around after they've had a hit.  I will always bowl till the end of the session even if it is subjecting guys to some pies in the process!.  Maybe I could get a job with the ECB as 'specialist pie chucker'.. :D
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: golden duck on April 10, 2015, 02:20:01 PM
We are quite lucky at our nets as we have 7-9 people turn up which is generally a mix of first and second teamers.  We normally split the time between however many people want to bat (sometimes one or two of the bowlers arn't fussed).

No one leaves early though (the club pays for 1 hr a week @ loughborough).  Both the bowlers and non bowlers put the effort in to serve up something playable and no one takes the piss (not deliberately or only for the odd ball when there is a lull).

As for making sure everyone pays attention - sometimes its a loosing battle....
Title: Re: Netiquette - what are the unspoken rules of net?
Post by: KarlPennington on April 10, 2015, 05:28:21 PM
Netiquette. If you get bowled out by a lesser player have a an excuse to hand "That stayed low, I couldn't see it out of those trees, I had sweat in my eye" If you get bowled out by a better player bow down and tell them how unplayable the delivery was. Same when bowling if you get smashed of a lesser player claim it was aerial bound and would have been caught or claim you are getting tired, if it's by a better player tell them it was a great shot and you just can't bowl to them :D