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General Cricket => World Cricket => Pakistan => Topic started by: uknsaunders on December 27, 2014, 01:37:40 PM
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Here's a YouTube clip of his remodelled action
http://youtu.be/Yq0clVJjxoU /
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You will see a massive amount of difference in the amount of wickets he takes with that action - if he continues to abide by it.
You cannot impart nearly as much spin from a straight up and down action with the little pivot he has always had. Due to his diminutive size, he is not going to generate a lot of bounce either. I think this is just a way Ajmal can go to the WC and finish out his career.
However, you can now clearly see how much he was chucking it before compared to now!
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He was never a huge spinner of the ball and I think he is still banned from bowling the Doosra. Early days but he's going to have to rely on more conventional ways of getting batsman out.
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He was never a huge spinner of the ball and I think he is still banned from bowling the Doosra. Early days but he's going to have to rely on more conventional ways of getting batsman out.
Mankading and catches at moo corner?? :D
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Mankading and catches at moo corner?? :D
I wonder how many 'spinners' wickets on a saturday are basically just lobbing it up and waiting for a batsmen to hole out at long on/moo corner.... I'd imagine most.
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I wonder how many 'spinners' wickets on a saturday are basically just lobbing it up and waiting for a batsmen to hole out at long on/moo corner.... I'd imagine most.
I'm a proper spinner, it's straight mid-wicket or wide mid-on thank you very much! ;)
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I'm a proper spinner, it's straight mid-wicket or wide mid-on thank you very much! ;)
:D
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Most English club spinners. Rely on flight and variation of pace. Its hard for English ,Aussies Saffa's to get away with " Mystery" sic spin as they all come thru structured cricket development from U10's and up, with proper Umpires who will just NO BALL the chucking out of them. Nothing to do with unorthodoxy and over coaching.
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I wonder how many 'spinners' wickets on a saturday are basically just lobbing it up and waiting for a batsmen to hole out at long on/moo corner.... I'd imagine most.
I thought you played a good level?
Anyone who does that at the level I play, or have played, may pick up the odd wicket but will get taken apart big time!
That's like saying how many 'fast' bowlers wickets just come from bowling straight!
Scandalous! ;-)
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I thought you played a good level?
Anyone who does that at the level I play, or have played, may pick up the odd wicket but will get taken apart big time!
That's like saying how many 'fast' bowlers wickets just come from bowling straight!
Scandalous! ;-)
Sundays mainly but it seems fairly common. Pretty sure a few of the Prem 2 spinners were doing just this too so it happens at all levels, higher ones are probably better at making it look like a valid tactic :), rather than just buying a wicket.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/pakistan/11314528/Saeed-Ajmal-out-of-Cricket-World-Cup-after-failing-to-fix-illegal-action.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/pakistan/11314528/Saeed-Ajmal-out-of-Cricket-World-Cup-after-failing-to-fix-illegal-action.html)
Looks like he's doing the sensible thing and taking the time rather than rushing back and potentially having a year ban if no balled again!
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Interestingly, on the subject on chucking
How many spinners in club cricket chuck it?
I play in the Liverpool Competition and theres at least three, one is a pro.....
Nothing ever seems to get done about these lads
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Interestingly, on the subject on chucking
How many spinners in club cricket chuck it?
I play in the Liverpool Competition and theres at least three, one is a pro.....
Nothing ever seems to get done about these lads
Given Gloucestershire have a chucker in their ranks... I've only known one 'spinner' go into the county squads and he's been totally ruined. He now chucks it and I hope he gets called for it. If this is what county coaches are teaching then tbh, they a) shouldn't be in the game b) should be fired.
I believe I faced two chuckers this year, one playing for Old Down, after I was out I joked with their fielder who said 'yeah, he does chuck it but no one does anything'.... The other played in a league game, I asked teh umpire what he thought a few times while batting and he just wasn't interested. Either he didn't think he was or just couldn't be bothered with the paperwork and reputation (I suspect this is the answer)
Umpires and clubs need to report chuckers for the good of the game, not let them off.
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I got no-balled for chucking in a Sunday friendly once. :-[
We had a panel umpire (who seems to like us) and as we were comfortably winning started doing impressions when we were bowling. The oppo were up for a laugh and told me to do Murali so I did :D
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So with Bangladesh beating Pakistan quite comprehensively and with Ajmal producing figures of 0-74 in his 10 overs, how long will he stick with his 'new action' before he slips back into old habits?
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Good on him for actually changing it
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I wonder how many 'spinners' wickets on a saturday are basically just lobbing it up and waiting for a batsmen to hole out at long on/moo corner.... I'd imagine most.
Yes, when you have a bad shoulder like mine, that is what you are compelled to do. It works too. :D
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So considering how ineffective Ajmal has become after being stopped from throwing, does that mean he's actually never legitimately taken any international wickets? Should his name have an * next to it?
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His first 4 overs the other day only went for 7 runs didn't they? And then suddenly the next 6 went for 60 odd.
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His first 4 overs the other day only went for 7 runs didn't they? And then suddenly the next 6 went for 60 odd.
I think you're right there. I can only imagine they played the reputation to begin with and realised he didn't carry the same threat he did before
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Already dropped from the team after 2 games. Not the same without chucking it
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hahaha...question is will he still play cricket?
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He's finished
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Pakistan's not doing that bad atm 4/213
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Only another 7 of those 2 word responses and you'll be at the magic 150 @MrCricket321 ;)
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Sad to see somebody struggle but at some point he was badly advised. I don't imagine Ajmal started off chucking it, I think his early career wasn't that great. All of a sudden he becomes unplayable for 4/5 years. Action fixed and he's back to being average. Must be hard when you feel like a world beater one minute and dropped the next.
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Only another 7 of those 2 word responses and you'll be at the magic 150 @MrCricket321 ;)
cheers for bringing it to my attention ;), posts removed and post count adjusted.
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Sad to see somebody struggle but at some point he was badly advised. I don't imagine Ajmal started off chucking it, I think his early career wasn't that great. All of a sudden he becomes unplayable for 4/5 years. Action fixed and he's back to being average. Must be hard when you feel like a world beater one minute and dropped the next.
fault is with the umpires, cricket boards, pakistan board and the ICC. They should be picking up on these players almost immediately upon entering the pro circuit. Nip it in the bud before they've made their millions
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I wonder how long he will go on until he decides to cut his losses and retire from the game? He could retire soon with most of his reputation intact (possibly) or try and prove himself to the doubters for one last hurrah. He's 37 now and not getting any younger?