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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: iand123 on May 21, 2015, 07:09:02 PM

Title: SS branding
Post by: iand123 on May 21, 2015, 07:09:02 PM
SS Ton say that all their bats from next season (at least in the UK market) will have burnt in TON edge stamps and not ink. Picture here https://twitter.com/toncricketuk/status/601452802498367488 (https://twitter.com/toncricketuk/status/601452802498367488)

I know you SS fans who like to refurb will be ecstatic!
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: Alvaro on May 21, 2015, 08:54:19 PM
That's not been the most interesting thing on their feed tonight. Wading in at SQ Sports and their non UK stock...

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Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: Alvaro on May 21, 2015, 08:55:01 PM
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Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: iand123 on May 22, 2015, 05:43:08 AM
I saw that too. Very interesting
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: No.4 on May 22, 2015, 06:52:19 AM
It's starting to escalate now. SQ are asking Ton why they aren't taking legal action!
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: TBONTB on May 22, 2015, 07:05:20 AM
Is that somebody at TON not understanding or are SQ pillared? I cannot see the Surridge on the bats but maybe I am wrong? All very public and ill-advised if you actually were looking to take legal action.
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: billygoatedna on May 22, 2015, 07:12:18 AM
Where are SQ asking to escalate No.4 ? I'm sure there is a grey within the industry.
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: No.4 on May 22, 2015, 08:05:15 AM
In further tweets Sq have replied to ton asking ton why they are not taking legal action? Ton response was we may be.

If you look at the ton bats sq have there is the wording sunridges on the rear stickers. This was the source of legal action from Stuart surridge a few years ago and why SS was rebranded to ton.
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: peristocle on May 22, 2015, 08:19:24 AM


Have SQ deleted this from their feed?
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: billygoatedna on May 22, 2015, 08:24:51 AM
I'm well aware of the SS v SS (as are other forum member) time wasting time and money but I still cannot see anywhere in and on this thread where you can justify escalated.
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: No.4 on May 22, 2015, 08:25:09 AM
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Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: billygoatedna on May 22, 2015, 08:34:08 AM
So currently it's all hot air and you No.4 are wide open on slanderous charges ? Dangerous path my friend.
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: TBONTB on May 22, 2015, 08:49:05 AM
The thing that confuses me, is that Indian market SS AND TON bats have Surridge on them. Its only UK market that don't, from my understanding/internet digging. So I am a bit confused why they are in such a huff. They have imported Indian TON bats with the branding that it not legal in the UK, but they cannot really do anything. Unless I am wrong with the branding?
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: wayward_hayward on May 22, 2015, 08:50:24 AM
This guy at SQ Sports loves rubbing people up the wrong way, great way to run a business!
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: TBONTB on May 22, 2015, 08:50:59 AM
So currently it's all hot air and you No.4 are wide open on slanderous charges ? Dangerous path my friend.

That is in no way slander, if he was saying it personally then potentially but to display something in an unedited, public forum from a public website isn't slander. 
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: liscon12 on May 22, 2015, 08:53:55 AM
UK TON bats have Sareen on the back compared to other TON bats which have Sunridges on the back.
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: TBONTB on May 22, 2015, 08:59:06 AM
Yeh thats what I thought, but like why do they care so much. If you are so fussed, don't sell them to the UK, or let retailers know they will not get supplied or shhh. And I would love to know what legal action they would think about.
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on May 22, 2015, 09:01:27 AM
The issue is that TON UK have the distribution rights to selling the brand in the UK, if shops are importing direct from India then they (TON UK) are missing out on sales/revenue in the UK market place that they are licensed to do so within.

Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: Alvaro on May 22, 2015, 09:04:49 AM
Nicely put, Tom.
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: TBONTB on May 22, 2015, 09:08:01 AM
I get why they are annoyed from a business point of view. But it is an internal argument between them and SS India, because they got the bats from somewhere and its a supply chain thing rather than the retailer themselves if you see my point? I just don't know why they did it all over twitter! But then again Alan Sugar did call me a (No Swearing Please) over twittter!
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: liscon12 on May 22, 2015, 09:37:00 AM
Have to Ayrtek, if TON UK want all sales to go through them then they need to make sure SS India aren't selling to UK retailers but also UK stores need to go through the proper channels when purchasing equipment, both parties need to co-operate.
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: Vitas Cricket on May 22, 2015, 10:09:26 AM
The thing that confuses me, is that Indian market SS AND TON bats have Surridge on them. Its only UK market that don't, from my understanding/internet digging. So I am a bit confused why they are in such a huff. They have imported Indian TON bats with the branding that it not legal in the UK, but they cannot really do anything. Unless I am wrong with the branding?

Nearly there. The key point is it is illegal for anyone apart from Surridge to sell a product carrying 'SS' or 'Sunridges' branding in the EU. The original source of the goods is irrelevant to the wider point.

You as a customer can buy and import an SS bat, or a TON bat with 'Sunridges' branding, but you cannot retail that item legally in the EU.
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: TBONTB on May 22, 2015, 10:23:14 AM
Ahh okay, I was sure i was wrong! Quite a few of the bedroom dealers are selling them! Not just SQ! Is there a link to the legal proceedings or information? I am very very bored and quite like reading legal papers!
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: Vitas Cricket on May 22, 2015, 10:49:49 AM
Ahh okay, I was sure i was wrong! Quite a few of the bedroom dealers are selling them! Not just SQ! Is there a link to the legal proceedings or information? I am very very bored and quite like reading legal papers!


Not sure they are published anywhere but if you dig around they may crop up.

Here's a topic i made when it all flared up.

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=24413.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=24413.0)
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: TBONTB on May 22, 2015, 10:53:03 AM
Cheers pal! I'm #unemployed
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: billygoatedna on May 22, 2015, 11:18:43 AM
It is if you question the integrity of the poster. I very much doubt either brand will be upset with such free advertising.
Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: TBONTB on May 22, 2015, 11:26:10 AM
It is if you question the integrity of the poster. I very much doubt either brand will be upset with such free advertising.

Me or Vitas?
Title: SS branding
Post by: himanshuvohra on May 23, 2015, 12:00:32 PM
The thing that confuses me, is that Indian market SS AND TON bats have Surridge on them.

Its not surridges, it is sunridges in indian market....

TON branding started around 2000 maybe, before that it was only SUNRIDGES SS....


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Title: Re: SS branding
Post by: KarlPennington on May 26, 2015, 05:42:28 PM
The issue is that TON UK have the distribution rights to selling the brand in the UK, if shops are importing direct from India then they (TON UK) are missing out on sales/revenue in the UK market place that they are licensed to do so within.

I got a Ton bat but apart from the hologram (little gold sticker) it didn't have Ton branding. It had SS branding.

I was enquiring at the time about why it had a slanted 'S' inked onto the side and not TON as did all other bats I had seen. I tweeted Ton UK who told me it wasn't an official product as it didn't come from them. I think it was imported. Anyway it's a sweet bat and now I've had it refurbed to lose a little weight and clunkiness it's a dream bat.