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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: Aussie In England on August 08, 2015, 09:41:42 AM
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Reports have in Australia have stated Michael Clarke will retire after the fifth and final Test at the Oval.
Clarke's been a great player and helped guide a transitional Australian side into the future.
Clarke wasn't the same after the passing of Phillip Hughes, and had it not been the eagerness to win the Ashes in England, he probably would've retired after the World Cup.
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The word "great" is really over used! Clarke was a good player but never a great
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Michael Clarke is absolutely a great player. No question.
He is being kicked out be the ungrateful selectors. Pathetic.
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The word "great" is really over used! Clarke was a good player but never a great
Clarke confirmed his greatest when he scored 4 scores of 200+ in one calendar year. Not even Bradman managed that...
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He will only remembered by many in England for his prepare for a F.... Broken arm comment to a true great of the game
And his failure to win the ashes in the UK
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I will only remember him for his prepare for a F.... Broken arm comment to a true great of the game.
Anderson long way short of being anyway near great...
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One of the best players of his generation but I'm hesitant to put him in the truely great category like viv sachin and Lara
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For my money Clarke's great, but he's a little behind Greg Chappell and Punter Ponting
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Id have him in the next lvl down from the true greats of all time but maybe if not for his injuries he could have been better as he was a decent bowler and the back seemed to affect his batting
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No he won't seniorplayer. Only you will remember him for that. We may have to wait a few years before we see another quality batsmen like Clarke or ponting wearing the baggy green.
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Great competitor but has looked all at sea pretty much since Hughes died which is understandable. Right decision to step down I think.
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No he won't seniorplayer. Only you will remember him for that. We may have to wait a few years before we see another quality batsmen like Clarke or ponting wearing the baggy green.
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To threaten to injure another player doesn't make you great it shows your limitations
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He'll be known for his batting abilities not his captaincy. Have the English forgotten the bodyline series.
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He'll be known for his batting abilities not his captaincy. Have the English forgotten the bodyline series.
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Couldn't agree more, considerably better batsman than captain, although to be fair perhaps he didn't have the pool of talent to work with that previous Australian captains enjoyed.
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Clarke is one of the greats in my books. I wish his back was better and he had continued to score runs. It is a shame really. The guy is a fierce competitor but overall Australia has a massive talent pool to draw from. I will miss watching him compete but team Australia already has people who want to step up.
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He will only remembered by many in England for his prepare for a F.... Broken arm comment to a true great of the game
And his failure to win the ashes in the UK
You mean the way that most Aussies remember Mike Gatting for his clueless effort against the "ball of the century"?
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You mean the way that most Aussies remember Mike Gatting for his clueless effort against the "ball of the century"?
Not the same Gattings always played in the correct way.
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Not the same Gattings always played in the correct way.
What like when he went on rebel tour to SA?
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To threaten to injure another player doesn't make you great it shows your limitations
Does that mean Warne and McGrath aren't greats, due to their fondness for a chirp?
He was a great, but not an all time great in my opinion.
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Anderson long way short of being anyway near great...
You're talking out of your (No Swearing Please).
I know it's been a tough day for you lot but recognize the stats
He's England's all time lead wicket taker.
You can't be mediocre and take 400+ poles
Deusional
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Never liked Clarke but he's been great for Australia.
At least he waited until the end of the tour to retire, unlike 2 Poms last time.
Good luck to him.
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Great player yet not able to warrant an all time great status in my eyes! Good guy touched by the passing of his close friend, wish him all the best!
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Clarke is a much better captain than a lot of people give him credit for. The players at his disposal are inferior to the Ponting days. If Clarke captained the sides Ponting captained, Clarke would have won way more test matches.
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I agree smokem but history won't remember him like we remember Steve Waugh as captain
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AUS has Great Team. It can do well even with Average Captain.
Giving credits for Pointing or Clarke is useless
They got Stars during Pointing ERA
.Hayden
.Gilly
.Pointing
.Sym
.Hussey
.Martin
.bevan
.mcc
.Lee
.Warne
and list goes onnnnn
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I personally don't think Clarke will be remembered as a great of the game but what I personally liked about Clarke is that he seemed a genuine bloke. He has lead that team very well and the way he handled the Phillip Hughes incident was extremely admirable. He was very emotional yesterday and I remember him being equally emotional when Ponting retired, you could tell that team and the blokes he played with (even though allegedly had his disagreements with a few people) was what it was all about.
The whole broken arm thing was unfortunate but I don't really think you can hold it against him, I bet worse has been said but not caught on a stump mic.
Thanks and good luck Mr Clarke, just wished I'd sold the bat with your name on before you quit! Although doesn't that make it extra limited edition quality now? :-)
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The back and hamstring were consistent battles he faced both physically and mentally but demise of Philip Hughes had shattered his emotions and affection. However, his commitment and dedication to the cause is applauding.
More so, as @Buzz pointed out, he did not have a supporting selection committee.
Certainly a great, he lead the team which did not have superstars to a global glory. Ricky Ponting's decline started when his star players retired which made him ineffective afterwards, thus, Micheal Clarke lead brilliantly with the pool of players he had.
Extremely well spoken and a decent bloke on and off the field. Always looked very tidy both, on and off the field.
Big loss for cricket, not many superstars left in cricket except handful.
Hope he scores a massive ton in his final innings and leads his side to glory.
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I'd imagine a fair bit of it is to do with his 1st child on the way, I couldn't get away with traveling most of the year now my one is here
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He is one the of best Australian batsmen ever. Nearly 9000 test runs. 4th on the list for the Aussies.
When he was fit he was a brilliant batsmen to way watch
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He was inconsistent before the Hughes tragedy. He should have retired from tests last Australian Summer and Retired with a World Cup as Smith was ready then.
Pro cricketers just get a bit selfish $$$ and push a little too long. He would have wanted a Sydney final test, but like Watson their ability had declined whilst their ego stayed inflated. I admire his records, but do not think he's been a team player. Should have always taken No3 when Pointing retired, but preferred the softer ball at no 5. I didn't think much of that. Then there was dressing room issues, disharmony over player bonding and distancing himself from selections.
Clarke's time is over. Savour the Ashes, but Aussie cricket will improve once they bond as a team under a new captain and fresh faces.
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Long time reader, haven't posted much. But geez some of you blokes live in your own little shell, perhaps its the english weather ;). Clarke is one of the greatest, sure he's had a demise, he's got a back made of glass, but the way he lead from the front and has at times carried an underperforming test side. Some incredibly gutsy innings in his career. Seems to be a lot of short term memory loss with the Ashes victory (and well played), but I can't seem to recall so much disregard for Cook when he struggled considerably in Australia and coughed up the Ashes 5-0. The Broken arm incident is so over hyped, you're telling me saint Jimmy has never had a chirp? He was a fierce competitor and Australian cricket will be poorer without him.
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Long time reader, haven't posted much. But geez some of you blokes live in your own little shell, perhaps its the english weather ;). Clarke is one of the greatest, sure he's had a demise, he's got a back made of glass, but the way he lead from the front and has at times carried an underperforming test side. Some incredibly gutsy innings in his career. Seems to be a lot of short term memory loss with the Ashes victory (and well played), but I can't seem to recall so much disregard for Cook when he struggled considerably in Australia and coughed up the Ashes 5-0. The Broken arm incident is so over hyped, you're telling me saint Jimmy has never had a chirp? He was a fierce competitor and Australian cricket will be poorer without him.
Chirping is one thing threats to injure is quite different well here in the Uk it is.
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Clarke has been a polarizing figure in Australian cricket since he came onto the scene, not only with supporters but teammates alike. I expect more to be said about this once the well deserved accolades and farewells have taken place.
I never really warmed to Clarke as a favourite player but definately wanted him in the team rather than out of it. Those who only think he'll only be remembered for his words to Anderson need to remember he's got 28 100's at a touch under 50. Not bad going for 115 tests.
Thanks for your service Clarkey.
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As a whinging pom, I've actually warmed to the chap more as a person - especially after his moving eulogy to Phil Hughes.
Fantastic batsman, and a decent attack-minded skipper.
Forget the 'broken arm' nonsense. We've all said stuff out there on the pitch in the heat of the moment.
He's copped a lot of unnecessary nonsense for what he looks like, and how he doesn't fit the traditional mould of the hard-bitten Aussie skipper, and has handled it with dignity.
Whatever he decides to do next, I say good luck to ya, fella.
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Anderson is a prize tool, he only received back what he dished out, most aussies enjoyed Clarke standing up for his team mates.
On Clarke, an exceptional on field skipper, great fielder, great batsman. I don't think he got over the Phil Hughes tragedy, something like that really makes you reconsider what's important, that combined with his back issue and what I think was a lack of trust with selectors and it just become too much. Set to be a very interesting next 12 months.
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Chirping is one thing threats to injure is quite different well here in the Uk it is.
Was it not reported that Anderson said to George Bailey 'I am going to punch you in the face' just before Clarke's broken effing arm threat?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/theashes/10472933/Michael-Clarke-reacted-to-James-Anderson-threatening-to-punch-George-Bailey-in-the-face-claims-Shane-Warne.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/theashes/10472933/Michael-Clarke-reacted-to-James-Anderson-threatening-to-punch-George-Bailey-in-the-face-claims-Shane-Warne.html)
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Clarke will certainly be missed in the short term for. Australia but looking at there talent pool it does seem a good time to step down, no doubt he has had a bit of pressure from selectors, media etc but with recent form and the way of things that's standard.
As for a great for me a class player but I'm sure if I was building my perfect team I'm not so sure he would fit in, he wasn't just a batsmen but also a captain and when you don't win an away Ash's series as an Aussie captain can you be labelled a great?? I mean that purely because he carried the captain arm band not just has batting.
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Was it not reported that Anderson said to George Bailey 'I am going to punch you in the face' just before Clarke's broken effing arm threat?
[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/theashes/10472933/Michael-Clarke-reacted-to-James-Anderson-threatening-to-punch-George-Bailey-in-the-face-claims-Shane-Warne.html[/url] ([url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/theashes/10472933/Michael-Clarke-reacted-to-James-Anderson-threatening-to-punch-George-Bailey-in-the-face-claims-Shane-Warne.html[/url])
Don't forget Andersons shoving of an Indian player last year, a class act in deed.
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Was it not reported that Anderson said to George Bailey 'I am going to punch you in the face' just before Clarke's broken effing arm threat?
[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/theashes/10472933/Michael-Clarke-reacted-to-James-Anderson-threatening-to-punch-George-Bailey-in-the-face-claims-Shane-Warne.html[/url] ([url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/theashes/10472933/Michael-Clarke-reacted-to-James-Anderson-threatening-to-punch-George-Bailey-in-the-face-claims-Shane-Warne.html[/url])
It's also been reported this morning the Australian wags have had a punch up, lipstick and clumps of hair all over the place,is it true? no idea, and no idea if this link above is just another Shane Warne story, he spending 2 years slagging off Cook to help his best buddy Clarke could get some advantage.
Clarke has apologised for the broken arm remark, saying it's not something he is proud of or something an Aussie captain should have said, and has called those fans who like him more for saying it as 'silly'. These are direct quotes from Clarke not 3rd party hearsay.
Either Clarke believed what he said, in which case don't apologise afterwards-the ICC fine he could pay with loose change- or he knows it was wrong and apologise.You can't have both.
Personally I will remember Clarke as a very very good batsman, not a great, and an very good captain, but as has been said above unless you win the Ashes in this Country you cannot be a great.The way Clarke handled the Phil Hughes situation was a credit to all those involved, Clarke especially.
It's odd being an England fans sometimes, we only appreciate the opposition players sometimes after they have gone. Steve Waugh was one of my favourite players and same goes for Pointing and Mcgrath.
These guys are true greats of Australian cricket and the respect is massive for them. I doubt Clarke comes close in that respect-but a very good player indeed. A lot of England fans I know, and me, wish him well in whatever he does next..... :)
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Clarke will certainly be missed in the short term for. Australia but looking at there talent pool it does seem a good time to step down, no doubt he has had a bit of pressure from selectors, media etc but with recent form and the way of things that's standard.
As for a great for me a class player but I'm sure if I was building my perfect team I'm not so sure he would fit in, he wasn't just a batsmen but also a captain and when you don't win an away Ash's series as an Aussie captain can you be labelled a great?? I mean that purely because he carried the captain arm band not just has batting.
Not only has Clarke failed to win an away Ashes series he is the only Australian to have a record number of 11 Ashes test match defeats against his name.
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Bitter, unsporting brute with limited intelligence. Never had much pleasure watching him play tbh.
Good riddance - I think the rest of the cricket world will probably agree!
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Bitter, unsporting brute with limited intelligence. Never had much pleasure watching him play tbh.
Good riddance - I think the rest of the cricket world will probably agree!
You on about Clarke? Or Warner? Or Anderson? Or Swann?
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You on about Clarke? Or Warner? Or Anderson? Or Swann?
Clarke - though if the cap fits for Warner ;)
Anderson and Swann have their own embarrassments, though even they wouldn't (have the balls if not the stupidity to...) front up full beans in a news conference acting like a school bully.
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Yes they would dan. England have their fair share of Muppets
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By all accounts joe root is a winnet. Biggest god complex in the world. Every team has them.
Clarke has been an incredible player and deserves to be remembered for that.