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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Cover_Drive on October 21, 2015, 03:24:50 AM
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Hello,
I rather read a lot about bats being 'overdried' which prodded me to post this. Since most of us play club cricket, how does an overdried bat affect us? Are you able to differentiate overdried and non-overdried bat by just looking at it? If so, how does that bat makes a difference to you (performance wise)?
I understand overdried bats tend to be prone to breakage much quicker than non-overdried, but then breakage is not solely limited to dryness.
Discuss.
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Not solely but predominantly for sure mate.
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I've had a couple of lovely asian bats, but they were huge for their weight and price. They also only lasted a season each, so I'd agree that it has an impact on the longevity of the bat. Did they go? Yes. Any better than some of the ones I have right now? Not especially. I've hit more sixes with my B3 Butterfly and Hunts County Butterfly than I have with most other bats though. Maybe I've just got a better batter and the bats have very little to do with it!
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Depends
Does over drying add performance?
If so.
Then is it fair someone who can afford to run 5/6 bats a season can afford an advantage over the guy who's bat needs to last him 6years?
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playing around with team mates bats over the years and virtually every bat is dried to a crisp.
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Depends
Does over drying add performance?
If so.
Then is it fair someone who can afford to run 5/6 bats a season can afford an advantage over the guy who's bat needs to last him 6years?
To be fair, that's like saying is it unfair that one person can afford a L&W Signature when the other can only afford a Sports Direct special - obviously one provides an advantage but you can't punish the player for being more well off than the other haha
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overdried willow gives me lightness for the wieght pickup and feel.
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overdried willow gives me lightness for the wieght pickup and feel.
I think that's the main reason, turning a heavy big bat into a light big bat. Not sure how much weight it would take off before being swadust. Must be a forum member who has done this?
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To be fair, that's like saying is it unfair that one person can afford a L&W Signature when the other can only afford a Sports Direct special - obviously one provides an advantage but you can't punish the player for being more well off than the other haha
Not really as a laver signature is based on looks not performance, technically a sports direct special could outperform it(but I doubt hat happens much)
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overdried willow gives me lightness for the wieght pickup and feel.
Lightness for the weight?! D'oh.
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Hello,
I rather read a lot about bats being 'overdried' which prodded me to post this. Since most of us play club cricket, how does an overdried bat affect us? Are you able to differentiate overdried and non-overdried bat by just looking at it? If so, how does that bat makes a difference to you (performance wise)?
I understand overdried bats tend to be prone to breakage much quicker than non-overdried, but then breakage is not solely limited to dryness.
Discuss.
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blog post coming soon on this very topic...... need more hours in the day, has anybody got a solution??
I get the feeling you'll cover this in your blog post but what I always think with overdried bats is surely there's a trade off involved. There must be a point where increased bat speed due to lower weight is "cancelled out" due to lack of mass? I'm sure you could explain the science better than me but I hope you get the idea of what I mean. If someone with a 2lb6oz bat can swing it 1.25 times faster (due to the low weight) than I can swing a 3lb5oz bat for example then I'll still hit it further won't I? Obviously that's a very extreme and crude example and there are other variables but there must come a point where having a lower weight but physically big bat becomes redundant vs a well designed albeit slightly heavier bat?
That was a typing equivalent of verbal diarrhea, I'm unsure as to whether any of it makes sense. I apologise and hope you all understood my point haha!
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Would depend what effect overdrying has on the 'rebound' properties of the willow, without being able to test it id say it could go either way! Be interested to read the good Doctor's experience on the subject.
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I get the feeling you'll cover this in your blog post but what I always think with overdried bats is surely there's a trade off involved. There must be a point where increased bat speed due to lower weight is "cancelled out" due to lack of mass? I'm sure you could explain the science better than me but I hope you get the idea of what I mean. If someone with a 2lb6oz bat can swing it 1.25 times faster (due to the low weight) than I can swing a 3lb5oz bat for example then I'll still hit it further won't I? Obviously that's a very extreme and crude example and there are other variables but there must come a point where having a lower weight but physically big bat becomes redundant vs a well designed albeit slightly heavier bat?
That was a typing equivalent of verbal diarrhea, I'm unsure as to whether any of it makes sense. I apologise and hope you all understood my point haha!
To scientifically test the effect of drying you would have to assume the follwoing >
The 2 bats to be exactly the same weight / design / willow structure etc So the only thing that would be different would be the lower moisture content.
But you are right everything to one side (shape/grade MC%) everyone has an "optimum weight" for maximum CoR (ball rebound)
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To scientifically test the effect of drying you would have to assume the follwoing >
The 2 bats to be exactly the same weight / design / willow structure etc So the only thing that would be different would be the lower moisture content.
But you are right everything to one side (shape/grade MC%) everyone has an "optimum weight" for maximum CoR (ball rebound)
If anybody had the means to test it then it's you! Would be very interesting to see 2 identical bats and the impact overdrying has..
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playing around with team mates bats over the years and virtually every bat is dried to a crisp.
It seems that the modern club cricketer often does not oil his bat? Perhaps because he's been told that pros don't? Perhaps because he can't be bothered?
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Can't say I've ever noticed a difference in performance from an over dried bat
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Assuming money is a factor...over dried bats did affect me. Agreed, SS bats ping great right out of the package.
But, none of them seem to last more than a season. Please don't tell me its normal! I cannot fathom how my
SS vertu with lot of scooping weights 2.9 and yet my full profile SS master weights only 2.10.
Going fwd instead of getting a new stick every year for 150 quid I have decided to get a decent hand made bat
from UK that would last little longer and still pay less money over time.
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I think I read somewhere that overdrying bats does improve performance, but only for a short period. I think their reasoning was that it stiffens the blade, therefore you get more energy transfer to the ball, but you trade off a large portion of the potential longevity of the blade, which could be down to fractures which occur during aggressive drying of the blade, and also just due to the lack of moisture to hold everything together. Could be massively wrong, and completely fabricated this in my head, but that was the general view I got from the post.