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Overdried - does it affect you?
« on: October 21, 2015, 03:24:50 AM »

Hello,

I rather read a lot about bats being 'overdried' which prodded me to post this. Since most of us play club cricket, how does an overdried bat affect us? Are you able to differentiate overdried and non-overdried bat by just looking at it? If so, how does that bat makes a difference to you (performance wise)?

I understand overdried bats tend to be prone to breakage much quicker than non-overdried, but then breakage is not solely limited to dryness.

Discuss.
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Re: Overdried - does it affect you?
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2015, 03:34:12 AM »

Not solely but predominantly for sure mate.


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Re: Overdried - does it affect you?
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2015, 05:56:23 AM »

I've had a couple of lovely asian bats, but they were huge for their weight and price. They also only lasted a season each, so I'd agree that it has an impact on the longevity of the bat. Did they go? Yes. Any better than some of the ones I have right now? Not especially. I've hit more sixes with my B3 Butterfly and Hunts County Butterfly than I have with most other bats though. Maybe I've just got a better batter and the bats have very little to do with it!
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Re: Overdried - does it affect you?
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2015, 07:10:20 AM »

Depends


Does over drying add performance?

If so.

Then is it fair someone who can afford to run 5/6 bats a season can afford an advantage over the guy who's bat needs to last him 6years?
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Re: Overdried - does it affect you?
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2015, 07:43:12 AM »

playing around with team mates bats over the years and virtually every bat is dried to a crisp.
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Re: Overdried - does it affect you?
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2015, 08:06:58 AM »

Depends


Does over drying add performance?

If so.

Then is it fair someone who can afford to run 5/6 bats a season can afford an advantage over the guy who's bat needs to last him 6years?

To be fair, that's like saying is it unfair that one person can afford a L&W Signature when the other can only afford a Sports Direct special - obviously one provides an advantage but you can't punish the player for being more well off than the other haha
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Re: Overdried - does it affect you?
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2015, 09:02:26 AM »

 overdried willow gives me  lightness for the wieght pickup and feel.
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Re: Overdried - does it affect you?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2015, 09:41:21 AM »

overdried willow gives me  lightness for the wieght pickup and feel.

I think that's the main reason, turning a heavy big bat into a light big bat. Not sure how much weight it would take off before being swadust. Must be a forum member who has done this?
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Re: Overdried - does it affect you?
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2015, 09:47:45 AM »

To be fair, that's like saying is it unfair that one person can afford a L&W Signature when the other can only afford a Sports Direct special - obviously one provides an advantage but you can't punish the player for being more well off than the other haha

Not really as a laver signature is based on looks not performance, technically a sports direct special could outperform it(but I doubt hat happens much)
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Re: Overdried - does it affect you?
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2015, 10:06:50 AM »

overdried willow gives me  lightness for the wieght pickup and feel.
Lightness for the weight?! D'oh.
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Re: Overdried - does it affect you?
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2015, 10:25:42 AM »

Hello,

I rather read a lot about bats being 'overdried' which prodded me to post this. Since most of us play club cricket, how does an overdried bat affect us? Are you able to differentiate overdried and non-overdried bat by just looking at it? If so, how does that bat makes a difference to you (performance wise)?

I understand overdried bats tend to be prone to breakage much quicker than non-overdried, but then breakage is not solely limited to dryness.

Discuss.

blog post coming soon on this very topic...... need more hours in the day, has anybody got a solution??
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Re: Overdried - does it affect you?
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2015, 10:35:37 AM »

blog post coming soon on this very topic...... need more hours in the day, has anybody got a solution??

I get the feeling you'll cover this in your blog post but what I always think with overdried bats is surely there's a trade off involved. There must be a point where increased bat speed due to lower weight is "cancelled out" due to lack of mass? I'm sure you could explain the science better than me but I hope you get the idea of what I mean. If someone with a 2lb6oz bat can swing it 1.25 times faster (due to the low weight) than I can swing a 3lb5oz bat for example then I'll still hit it further won't I? Obviously that's a very extreme and crude example and there are other variables but there must come a point where having a lower weight but physically big bat becomes redundant vs a well designed albeit slightly heavier bat?

That was a typing equivalent of verbal diarrhea, I'm unsure as to whether any of it makes sense. I apologise and hope you all understood my point haha!
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Re: Overdried - does it affect you?
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2015, 10:49:57 AM »

Would depend what effect overdrying has on the 'rebound' properties of the willow, without being able to test it id say it could go either way! Be interested to read the good Doctor's experience on the subject.
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Re: Overdried - does it affect you?
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2015, 11:00:03 AM »

I get the feeling you'll cover this in your blog post but what I always think with overdried bats is surely there's a trade off involved. There must be a point where increased bat speed due to lower weight is "cancelled out" due to lack of mass? I'm sure you could explain the science better than me but I hope you get the idea of what I mean. If someone with a 2lb6oz bat can swing it 1.25 times faster (due to the low weight) than I can swing a 3lb5oz bat for example then I'll still hit it further won't I? Obviously that's a very extreme and crude example and there are other variables but there must come a point where having a lower weight but physically big bat becomes redundant vs a well designed albeit slightly heavier bat?

That was a typing equivalent of verbal diarrhea, I'm unsure as to whether any of it makes sense. I apologise and hope you all understood my point haha!

To scientifically test the effect of drying you would have to assume the follwoing >

The 2 bats to be exactly the same weight / design / willow structure etc So the only thing that would be different would be the lower moisture content.

But you are right everything to one side (shape/grade MC%) everyone has an "optimum weight" for maximum CoR (ball rebound)
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Re: Overdried - does it affect you?
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2015, 11:19:57 AM »

To scientifically test the effect of drying you would have to assume the follwoing >

The 2 bats to be exactly the same weight / design / willow structure etc So the only thing that would be different would be the lower moisture content.

But you are right everything to one side (shape/grade MC%) everyone has an "optimum weight" for maximum CoR (ball rebound)

If anybody had the means to test it then it's you! Would be very interesting to see 2 identical bats and the impact overdrying has..
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