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Title: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: GoldenArm on November 04, 2015, 01:57:58 PM
http://www.birminghamleague.org/article/result-of-disciplinary-hearing_1988 (http://www.birminghamleague.org/article/result-of-disciplinary-hearing_1988)

Anyone from the Worcester area know what happened in this game? That's some pretty hefty bans and penalties so must have been pretty terrible from some of these players and it just set me thinking; what's the worst behavior you've seen on a cricket field and what happened after the umpires filed their reports?
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: Neon Cricket on November 04, 2015, 02:03:44 PM
I don't know what happened, but my mate plays for Worcester 1's so he will - I'll drop him a text haha
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: rickjames on November 04, 2015, 02:04:37 PM
Not related to the game about but they seem to have had other stuff go on

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/other-sport/cricket/2015/08/05/cricket-player-head-butted-as-match-marred-by-violence/ (http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/other-sport/cricket/2015/08/05/cricket-player-head-butted-as-match-marred-by-violence/)

Can only assume it's something of a similar nature...
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: edge on November 04, 2015, 02:04:59 PM
Wow that's some punishment!

Best ban I've ever seen was one in the Welsh leagues last season (I think) that was officially reported by the club as a 3 match ban for 'poisoning the umpire's guide dog'
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: GoldenArm on November 04, 2015, 02:05:07 PM
I don't know what happened, but my mate plays for Worcester 1's so he will - I'll drop him a text haha

Nice one I am interested to know! PS I'll see you in div 3 next season mate!
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: Neon Cricket on November 04, 2015, 02:26:28 PM
Nice one I am interested to know! PS I'll see you in div 3 next season mate!

Not actually playing for Kempsey at the moment mate, live down in London now! Play the odd game when I'm back up but not a regular sadly - who do you play for?

You'll be in for a surprise playing Kempsey, the team is outrageous at the moment - the O'Neill's are easily good enough for Birm League
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: Mr_Orange on November 04, 2015, 02:30:33 PM
This actually had a knock on effect to my club as Pelsall were safe originally, and as they had points deducted and are now relegated it sent us down from the Staffs league too (we would've only stayed up by default anyway). I know 2 of the lads who have been banned, have played with and against them for years. I won't comment on what I have heard happened though as I didn't witness it myself so it's only hearsay.

Not related to the game about but they seem to have had other stuff go on
[url]http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/other-sport/cricket/2015/08/05/cricket-player-head-butted-as-match-marred-by-violence/[/url] ([url]http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/other-sport/cricket/2015/08/05/cricket-player-head-butted-as-match-marred-by-violence/[/url])
Can only assume it's something of a similar nature...

Even though this was related to the same club it was spectators that caused the violence and not the players as in the case of the ban!
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: GoldenArm on November 04, 2015, 02:35:09 PM
Not actually playing for Kempsey at the moment mate, live down in London now! Play the odd game when I'm back up but not a regular sadly - who do you play for?

You'll be in for a surprise playing Kempsey, the team is outrageous at the moment - the O'Neill's are easily good enough for Birm League

Don't worry I've been keeping a close eye on div 4! Fully expect Kempsey to be top half of the table next season. I play for Old Vigs, my old muckers Trist and Adam plus the O'Neils should be a pretty fearsome combo! Shame you're not back more often as they got promoted. See if you can make it back for the new road game, if there's a county match on there's always a half chance of getting on the telly when the cameraman gets bored!
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: Cin88 on November 04, 2015, 02:37:53 PM
When I was playing for my junior club's third XI the captain got an 11 game ban for arguing with the umpires during one particularly heated game.

My current club's first XI skipper got a 10 game ban for dissent during a game last year. All he did was get between the opposition batsmen and one his own players when the batsmen decided to get their handbags out over being moaned at for moving the screen every ball. The batsmen themselves only got 3 games each.
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: ppccopener on November 04, 2015, 02:45:53 PM
in our league thou, if a player gets a ban for whatever incident, the captain also gets a ban regardless of whether he has done anything wrong or not.

At first I thought this was an unfair rule(ive captained myself) but now I think it's right. Captains are basically responsible for their own players.

eg. if a player got a 3 game ban for aggressive behaviour,the captain would get a 1 or 2 game ban also....
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: Neon Cricket on November 04, 2015, 03:30:44 PM
Don't worry I've been keeping a close eye on div 4! Fully expect Kempsey to be top half of the table next season. I play for Old Vigs, my old muckers Trist and Adam plus the O'Neils should be a pretty fearsome combo! Shame you're not back more often as they got promoted. See if you can make it back for the new road game, if there's a county match on there's always a half chance of getting on the telly when the cameraman gets bored!

Ahh nice, I actually started the revolt of various players leaving the clubs to join Kempsey - me and Adam (I presume you mean Hunaban!) left Old Elizabethans to go over to Kempsey and then Tristan/Zak and the rest followed suit - we were all mates before joining Kempsey so it really makes for a great atmosphere. Will definitely see if I can make it back for that weekend - can remember playing against OV's when I used to play OE's 3s as a youngster, cracking ground!
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: Seniorplayer on November 04, 2015, 05:25:59 PM
[url]http://www.birminghamleague.org/article/result-of-disciplinary-hearing_1988[/url] ([url]http://www.birminghamleague.org/article/result-of-disciplinary-hearing_1988[/url])

Anyone from the Worcester area know what happened in this game? That's some pretty hefty bans and penalties so must have been pretty terrible from some of these players and it just set me thinking; what's the worst behavior you've seen on a cricket field and what happened after the umpires filed their reports?


Was informed of this around a month prior to the appeal at our committee meeting as the outcome of the  appeal would impact on  relegation heard the result of the appeal yesterday what I can  also say appealing against the discipline  decision by individual players didn't come cheap.
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: Jamesfield on November 04, 2015, 10:32:10 PM
Twining CC in gloucestershire area are a horrible bunch and captain and players seem to get banned every other game, dont see why they dont just kick them out of the league
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on November 04, 2015, 10:42:05 PM
This actually had a knock on effect to my club as Pelsall were safe originally, and as they had points deducted and are now relegated it sent us down from the Staffs league too (we would've only stayed up by default anyway). I know 2 of the lads who have been banned, have played with and against them for years. I won't comment on what I have heard happened though as I didn't witness it myself so it's only hearsay.
Even though this was related to the same club it was spectators that caused the violence and not the players as in the case of the ban!

Sounds like they are. A bunch of trouble makers the game would do well to get rid of. Clubs that tolerate players who are aggressive and 'fans' should simply be chucked out and all those involved banned. No need for it
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on November 04, 2015, 10:45:54 PM
Twining CC in gloucestershire area are a horrible bunch and captain and players seem to get banned every other game, dont see why they dont just kick them out of the league

Leagues are too soft and people for some reason think it's 'part of the game'. Used to but the hell out of me on the football pitch and was a key reason I stopped playing 'hack you down then say 'it's a mans game''.. its why I happy to see amateur football going to the dogs as there are too many players like that
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: Jamesfield on November 04, 2015, 10:48:04 PM
Quit football for the same reason mate
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: Mr_Orange on November 05, 2015, 08:34:44 AM
Sounds like they are. A bunch of trouble makers the game would do well to get rid of. Clubs that tolerate players who are aggressive and 'fans' should simply be chucked out and all those involved banned. No need for it
Couldn't agree more. Some of the games we played against them turned nasty and it's not what we want to see on the cricket field. Sad thing is I grew up playing alongside a couple of them and it's going to a 'bigger' club that's sent them that way.
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: jimmyca on November 06, 2015, 02:20:30 PM
Not related to the game about but they seem to have had other stuff go on

[url]http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/other-sport/cricket/2015/08/05/cricket-player-head-butted-as-match-marred-by-violence/[/url] ([url]http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/other-sport/cricket/2015/08/05/cricket-player-head-butted-as-match-marred-by-violence/[/url])

Can only assume it's something of a similar nature...


I actually played in this game  :D
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: jimmyca on November 06, 2015, 03:43:52 PM
Couldn't agree more. Some of the games we played against them turned nasty and it's not what we want to see on the cricket field. Sad thing is I grew up playing alongside a couple of them and it's going to a 'bigger' club that's sent them that way.

When we played them the players were ok, played hard but fair but then they won so may have been different....

What wasn't good was the behaviour of their 'supporters' - I say that loosely as the club distanced themselves from those that came from the football who were quite frankly awful (racism, abuse, burning our Welsh flag, head-butting and punching people etc). Although turns out the main guy involved in the fracas after the flag burning (headbutting and punching) was a former player, we found that out recently.

Sad to hear more trouble followed them, some of those mentioned that were banned, I spoke to and they were very friendly and nice (captain was, he also apologised for the trouble) so not sure what happened but sounds like they have history.
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: smilley792 on November 06, 2015, 03:46:19 PM
When we played them the players were ok, played hard but fair but then they won so may have been different....

What wasn't good was the behaviour of their 'supporters' - I say that loosely as the club distanced themselves from those that came from the football who were quite frankly awful (racism, abuse, burning our Welsh flag, head-butting and punching people etc). Although turns out the main guy involved in the fracas after the flag burning (headbutting and punching) was a former player, we found that out recently.

Sad to hear more trouble followed them, some of those mentioned that were banned, I spoke to and they were very friendly and nice (captain was, he also apologised for the trouble) so not sure what happened but sounds like they have history.


Did you play against holmesfield in the village cup?
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on November 06, 2015, 06:09:42 PM
When we played them the players were ok, played hard but fair but then they won so may have been different....

What wasn't good was the behaviour of their 'supporters' - I say that loosely as the club distanced themselves from those that came from the football who were quite frankly awful (racism, abuse, burning our Welsh flag, head-butting and punching people etc). Although turns out the main guy involved in the fracas after the flag burning (headbutting and punching) was a former player, we found that out recently.

Sad to hear more trouble followed them, some of those mentioned that were banned, I spoke to and they were very friendly and nice (captain was, he also apologised for the trouble) so not sure what happened but sounds like they have history.

Still sounds like banning the lot forever is the best solution for everyone
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: jimmyca on November 07, 2015, 08:00:22 AM

Did you play against holmesfield in the village cup?

Yes I did, enjoyed that trip  :) top club
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: smilley792 on November 07, 2015, 09:25:22 AM
Yes I did, enjoyed that trip  :) top club

Lovely little ground. There one of our main rivals, but games are always in good spirit. Read the report, looked a good close game with your lot.
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: jimmyca on November 07, 2015, 09:41:45 AM
Lovely little ground. There one of our main rivals, but games are always in good spirit. Read the report, looked a good close game with your lot.

Yeah lovely ground, was a great game chasing down 248 off 35 overs - we also made it into the cricketer as well and I also got interviewed by them.

Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: Seniorplayer on November 07, 2015, 09:45:12 AM
Seems to fit in this topic
[url]http://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-news/2015/11/06/its-just-not-cricket-pelsall-relegated-and-hit-with-bans-amid-jostling-and-abuse-claims/[/url] ([url]http://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-news/2015/11/06/its-just-not-cricket-pelsall-relegated-and-hit-with-bans-amid-jostling-and-abuse-claims/[/url])


Yes it's what the original post was asking about. Also certain teams in the Staffs clubs and Worcester Clubs leagues who were due to be relegated from there respective divisions may avoid relegation.
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: Burdy on December 08, 2015, 07:11:49 PM
Have a look at some clubs that 'grace' our league. Keep reading to the bottom of the page. Any one who is over 30 and has played in Essex league cricket would be familiar with the person at the bottom of the page.

http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/13622855.Brawling_cricketers_banned_for_a_year_after_bat_fight/ (http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/13622855.Brawling_cricketers_banned_for_a_year_after_bat_fight/)

Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: arsenal123 on December 08, 2015, 07:42:06 PM
Haha, why just over 30?!

Two seasons now I've had arguments with him when sticking up for my team.
Title: Re: Bad Behavior & Massive Bans
Post by: Burdy on December 08, 2015, 08:08:07 PM
He used to be notorious years ago and since gone off the boil why i said about 30 year olds. Regular in the back pages of the league hand book. Personally, ive never had any run ins with him, but seen a few. Played against him season b4 last and he kicked off but made himself silly, tried the old im going to headbutt you while standing toe to toe with a good mate of mine after he was out, but my mate didnt move but just burst out laughing, then came a swift jab to stomach with his bat. Only thing he middled all day