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General Cricket => World Cricket => England => Topic started by: uknsaunders on November 20, 2015, 11:08:16 PM
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Doesn't sound good
http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/content/story/942569.html
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Rumour is they are going with just 14 contracted players for next season
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Has Swann retiring and losing payments from the ECB helped mess them up this much?
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definitely not looking good for their future.
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Rumour is they are going with just 14 contracted players for next season
I'm sure there are plenty of amateurs who would turn out if given the chance though, might be a good short term way to bolster the squad
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I'm sure there are plenty of amateurs who would turn out if given the chance though, might be a good short term way to bolster the squad
I saw the 2nd xi play three times last year and only 3 players were retained for all three of those games, so think they're already well down that route!
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I saw the 2nd xi play three times last year and only 3 players were retained for all three of those games, so think they're already well down that route!
Yes maybe but I'm sure there are more than 33 amateurs in Northants who'd happily play. Given no one cares about 2xi or, it appears Northants care about lvcc.. Just throw the odd one in, maybe ask for a donation to play in the lvcc to make a bit of money.
Some rich kids dad will be sad enough to pay 2k for a lvcc appearance. Not like it matter to them, i assume they'll concentrate on 2020/50'over crap
Tbh, these clubs need to be allowed to die if,they can't be ran properly. Too many admin staff, too,many teams hanging off the main side, coaches etc etc
Lvcc
50 over
2020
Women's
Girls age group
2xi
Academy
You could sack off all bar the top 3 given the financial state
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The cricinfo article mentions the ECB would be not unhappy to let a couple of counties go to the wall, rather than dish out more emergency money.
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The cricinfo article mentions the ECB would be not unhappy to let a couple of counties go to the wall, rather than dish out more emergency money.
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Sport reflects the societies we live in.
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im sure the ECB would love there to be less counties with out actually having to decide this themselves.
i imagine they would also bring in franchise t20 sooner.
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im sure the ECB would love there to be less counties with out actually having to decide this themselves.
i imagine they would also bring in franchise t20 sooner.
Why does everything have to be about money?
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I'll re-phrase that. Why does everything have to be about greed and self-interest?
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I'll re-phrase that. Why does everything have to be about greed and self-interest?
Because it is unfortunately.,way of the world. No good guys anymore
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I'm still no sure why for a season they couldn't just out out a purely amateur team in all comps and have no contracted players. Save all the wages, bonuses etc for a season or two. I'm sure the ecb wouldn't mind 2-3 years for the club to turn itself around
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The ECB would much rather pay Stuart Broad an extra few hundred grand so he can act like even more of a spoilt brat.
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I'm still no sure why for a season they couldn't just out out a purely amateur team in all comps and have no contracted players. Save all the wages, bonuses etc for a season or two. I'm sure the ecb wouldn't mind 2-3 years for the club to turn itself around
Well....from the articles I have read the debt is so big there and it's just being replaced by more debt-whether that's local council money or ecb loans.... At some point you have to ask if long term they can keep going.Sadly the answer looks like they cannot-there's just not enough money coming in.
This is not the European Central Bank propping up Greece,counties without tests or international matches are very much at a disadvantage...to get a test match you have to bid stupid money and upgrade your ground-a vicious circle.
Cardiff only stages tests because it has essential public money from the Welsh assembly without that they would be stuffed too.
A smaller championship has to be the way forward,personally I think counties should merge geographically.
In 2002 my club had enough money for one more month-so we merged with another club
What's the difference in what some of us clubs do and the counties?
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I'm still no sure why for a season they couldn't just out out a purely amateur team in all comps and have no contracted players. Save all the wages, bonuses etc for a season or two. I'm sure the ecb wouldn't mind 2-3 years for the club to turn itself around
Because at that level, players need to practise every day? In fact, they play most days.
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A smaller championship? That, or the end of neo-liberalism.
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Because at that level, players need to practise every day? In fact, they play most days.
Doesn't need to be the same players like pros, even if they used 100'diffwrent ones in a season. For one year it could happen. That would save a million or 2 which looking at the losses would put them back on track in one year. Did 2 after all isn't that good and they lose anyway if they pay pros and go out of business
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All the counties get big money from the ecb-that's one of the reason all the chairman backed the Stanford money-all 18 were getting a pay out.ignore the fact any quality control check would of shown he was a crook
Get a bad feeling when he turned up in a helicopter with a million dollars in a plastic box? Yeah me too
But as sad as it is I think Northants will go bankrupt.the only option may be if they own the ground and sell it....a lot of people in charge are property developers.
But at the end of the day I honestly think at least some counties should merge,can't see any other way....
Northants and Leicester? Is that so hard to imagine?
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All the counties get big money from the ecb-that's one of the reason all the chairman backed the Stanford money-all 18 were getting a pay out.ignore the fact any quality control check would of shown he was a crook
Get a bad feeling when he turned up in a helicopter with a million dollars in a plastic box? Yeah me too
But as sad as it is I think Northants will go bankrupt.the only option may be if they own the ground and sell it....a lot of people in charge are property developers.
But at the end of the day I honestly think at least some counties should merge,can't see any other way....
Northants and Leicester? Is that so hard to imagine?
Hailing from Northants I wouldn't go to Leicester to watch cricket so tbh, you might as well not merge and just let those that can't function without handouts die
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Doesn't need to be the same players like pros, even if they used 100'diffwrent ones in a season. For one year it could happen. That would save a million or 2 which looking at the losses would put them back on track in one year. Did 2 after all isn't that good and they lose anyway if they pay pros and go out of business
That would be absolutely dreadful. I'd rather end it tomorrow than go down a slow torture route.
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Cant check right now but i think the ECB gives something like £40m to the counties out of the £100m a year they get from sky. This props up the smaller counties by generating 50% or more of their yearly revenue. Nearly all would be bankrupt without it.
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Cant check right now but i think the ECB gives something like £40m to the counties out of the £100m a year they get from sky. This props up the smaller counties by generating 50% or more of their yearly revenue. Nearly all would be bankrupt without it.
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And it's been that way for many years.
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That would be absolutely dreadful. I'd rather end it tomorrow than go down a slow torture route.
Million a year at least on wages (when you factor in all the silly age group,youth, girls, women, disabled etc etc. no need for coaches, analysts, fitness etc. they'd be paid off their debts within two years and could build it all up again.
Surely worth a try if there are amateurs willing to play for free. Once it's gone, it's gone . It's not like a county in recent times doesn't have previous for losing all their games for years.. Leicestershire or Derbyshire was it?
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And it's been that way for many years.
That's right the TV money is cut up and given to all counties,everyone gets a slice-it's not just Northants.
It just happens they are in a worse mess than most.I believe Kent sold off some land as they have been in trouble too.
Think it's looking a bit better for them now.
If your not going to have international matches another use needs to be found for the ground -corporate functions etc.
County cricket....aside from a few rich ones...needs a rethink.
I feel more Northants fans I really do,but the writing looks to be on the wall-sadly
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It's not simply that the cricket would be poor. It would be morally wrong, in my opinion.
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(If they were forced to use amateurs.)
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You simply can't run an unsustainable business. During the 80s/90s these counties had no sky money yet somehow managed to balance the books. Now they can't even get close and it can't all be down to player wages being brought up to a decent living wage. The ECB has a duty to pay counties some money to produce a first class setup capable of developing international talent but that doesn't need 18 counties to do that. Australia manage with 6, SA similar and those two teams are arguably the best in the world.
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Yorkshire paid Northants thirty grand for David Willey! Thirty poxy grand!
People mostly don't watch the championship because they are told it's boring. And because no-one else watches it (a self-fulfilling prophecy). The narrative of a championship match is usually pretty similar to that of a Test match.
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I went to watch Worcestershire v Notts this summer on a Friday and there was roughly 1500-2000 in the ground. Hospitality was pretty full as well. I was very surprised.
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I went to watch Worcestershire v Notts this summer on a Friday and there was roughly 1500-2000 in the ground. Hospitality was pretty full as well. I was very surprised.
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You'll have seen some quality cricketers too.
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Way too many counties and too many journeymen about
For me needs halving down to about 10 or so and make the best fight it out
Won't happen as any change needs the county chairmen approval and turkeys very rarely vote for Christmas
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Yes, it was a good day. Worcester dominated for some periods but notts bowled well at times. 280 ao v 70-2 was the end of day score.
I don't think picking a totally amatuer side would produce the same quality of cricket or crowds.
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Yes, it was a good day. Worcester dominated for some periods but notts bowled well at times. 280 ao v 70-2 was the end of day score.
I don't think picking a totally amatuer side would produce the same quality of cricket or crowds.
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1. Like a day at the Test match. Only £80 cheaper.
2. Of course not.
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I personally think northants and Leicestershire ought to consider merging, selling up grounds and reinvest in a new facility. Both are failing counties as regarding finances and to some extent on the pitch.
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I shall never forget David Murphy's elation at getting his maiden championship ton for Nothants at The Oval. It felt so real.
What can I remember about this year's IPL? Not much.