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General Cricket => Cricket Admin, Facilities and Fundraising => Topic started by: Eliotroberts on March 08, 2016, 07:28:09 PM
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Very general question but my clubs agm is coming up next week. Just wondering if any of you have them as its my first agm I will be attending. What sort of things are raised and if there was one thing you could change at your club what would it be ?
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At ours it's mainly a discussion on the accounts and how we spend so much money, yet don't seem to make any visible improvements to the club.
It's just a meeting where members can voice their opinions, ask questions, elect the officers/committee. I've found that once you've been to a couple, you've been to them all.
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It should be a good meeting where you get to pick the right people for the right job etc..
Sadly, my experience is it's pretty much pointless going as its same old same old
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I think captaincy appointments are made at our agm if for whatever reason they are changing from the last seasons captains
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Go through accounts, vote for captains, vote for chairman, secretary etc, vote on membership/match fees, discuss any other issues eg; quality of teas, selection policy, net days, winter training.
It is actually quite important but we only get around 8 people out of a membership of about 50. Therefore, the same people do the same jobs.
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Ours is mainly about election of officers, captains etc.
Reports on playing side and finances.
Updates on changes to the league.
Oh, and me desperately trying to find someone to take over as Secretary :(
The main thing I would change is to actually get a decent turnout at an AGM for once. It frustrates the life out of me the same old people moaning about things all season but not making the effort to turn up to one meeting a year to make their points.
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our AGM consisted of captaincy changes, membership/match fees and a few other things. If done properly it shouldny last long!
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Thanks lads. I've never been to one so needed an idea. So really only a few cricketing issues brought up more the accounts side ? We are a relatively new club so my idea is to bring up coaching the youth in the area. Right time for it to be done or not ?
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Thanks lads. I've never been to one so needed an idea. So really only a few cricketing issues brought up more the accounts side ? We are a relatively new club so my idea is to bring up coaching the youth in the area. Right time for it to be done or not ?
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Ideas are easy... Being willing to put the time in yourself is pretty much always the issue
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Ideas are easy... Being willing to put the time in yourself is pretty much always the issue
Coaching now for my club I played for up until 20. Now playing elsewhere and would love another little challenge. Always here to help when asked annoys me more not to be asked.
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I find AGMs tiresome and I am on the committee
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I find AGMs tiresome and I am on the committee
Haha could this be why the attendances are dwindling haha. Hire a dj. Get a bouncy castle and sandwiches
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Our AGM is usually something like:
Attendees and apologies
Last years minutes
Accounts overview
Chairmanship report
Resignation of outgoing committee members
Appointment of new committee members
Discuss vacant positions and how to try and fill them
Any other business
Once all that's done bar opens and we get on the beers!
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Our AGM is usually something like:
Attendees and apologies
Last years minutes
Accounts overview
Chairmanship report
Resignation of outgoing committee members
Appointment of new committee members
Discuss vacant positions and how to try and fill them
Any other business
Once all that's done bar opens and we get on the beers!
Seems like a decent order etc. Hopefully ours goes by without a great deal of issues. Cheers bud
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Seems like a decent order etc. Hopefully ours goes by without a great deal of issues. Cheers bud
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Oh you can tell you haven't been to one! There's always a disagreement!
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Oh you can tell you haven't been to one! There's always a disagreement!
Love a disagreement !!! Haha always gets my naughty el side out. Like spreading fertiliser !!!
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Oh you can tell you haven't been to one! There's always a disagreement!
You ever had someone strop off and leave midway through election of officials when they didn't get in?
That was a fun year ;)
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Ive been on the committee with one role or another for longer than I can remember, it can be hard work if you don't have like minded people.
There's often disagreements and trying to get everyone in the same direction is hard.But I personally would encourage you to get involved if you think you can contribute at all.its better to try to change things from the inside than outside.It also would help you understand how the club runs. So if you feel able now or somewhere down the line stick your hand up and volunteer.
About 5 years ago our committee was split, we had no money and we're facing real difficulties.We had to have some tough conversations about money and put personal differences aside, not unlike what you might do at work.
Having cut all costs to the bone,cancelled all pay to coaches,mobile phone costs-I even cancelled our telephone line,5 years later we have a healthy balance sheet-because different personalities were forced to work together.
I now have the job no one wants...dicipline and drugs policy falls at my door.Yes it's like having another job, but I've learnt a lot doing it.
So...ask whatever questions you want it's all experience in the long run,and if you think you can contribute anything let them know.
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You ever had someone strop off and leave midway through election of officials when they didn't get in?
That was a fun year ;)
Nope but we did have our EGM for our new badge (i think you've seen it) and people cried about that
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I now have the job no one wants...dicipline and drugs policy falls at my door.
If you have any excess drugs at the end of the season please send them my way mate ;)
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You ever had someone strop off and leave midway through election of officials when they didn't get in?
That was a fun year ;)
No way. This was an adult ?? Did anyone tell him where to go ? Ridiculous
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Ive been on the committee with one role or another for longer than I can remember, it can be hard work if you don't have like minded people.
There's often disagreements and trying to get everyone in the same direction is hard.But I personally would encourage you to get involved if you think you can contribute at all.its better to try to change things from the inside than outside.It also would help you understand how the club runs. So if you feel able now or somewhere down the line stick your hand up and volunteer.
About 5 years ago our committee was split, we had no money and we're facing real difficulties.We had to have some tough conversations about money and put personal differences aside, not unlike what you might do at work.
Having cut all costs to the bone,cancelled all pay to coaches,mobile phone costs-I even cancelled our telephone line,5 years later we have a healthy balance sheet-because different personalities were forced to work together.
I now have the job no one wants...dicipline and drugs policy falls at my door.Yes it's like having another job, but I've learnt a lot doing it.
So...ask whatever questions you want it's all experience in the long run,and if you think you can contribute anything let them know.
:)
Well said
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Nope but we did have our EGM for our new badge (i think you've seen it) and people cried about that
Literally ??
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Ive been on the committee with one role or another for longer than I can remember, it can be hard work if you don't have like minded people.
There's often disagreements and trying to get everyone in the same direction is hard.But I personally would encourage you to get involved if you think you can contribute at all.its better to try to change things from the inside than outside.It also would help you understand how the club runs. So if you feel able now or somewhere down the line stick your hand up and volunteer.
About 5 years ago our committee was split, we had no money and we're facing real difficulties.We had to have some tough conversations about money and put personal differences aside, not unlike what you might do at work.
Having cut all costs to the bone,cancelled all pay to coaches,mobile phone costs-I even cancelled our telephone line,5 years later we have a healthy balance sheet-because different personalities were forced to work together.
I now have the job no one wants...dicipline and drugs policy falls at my door.Yes it's like having another job, but I've learnt a lot doing it.
So...ask whatever questions you want it's all experience in the long run,and if you think you can contribute anything let them know.
:)
Thanks for that mate. I'm genuinely interested in this side of the game aswell so think I may put myself forward but new to the club so may be a bit early but what I've learnt being a coach at my childhood club which is a very successful club aswell may be of interest and help to my new club
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Literally ??
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They left the club, yet to return!
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No way. This was an adult ?? Did anyone tell him where to go ? Ridiculous
Yep, fully grown adult.
Had a tantrum about the bloke who he was up against gaving a better "you should vote for me" speech than him.
He said to put in the minutes he obstained from voting due to it being an unfair contest.
Then threw the toys out the pram when he didn't get in, told everyone the club was a f***ing joke and left.
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They left the club, yet to return!
Sometimes things have to change. People do get upset but surely talking it over and not loosing the plot is a better way to deal with it. Eye opening chat this I never ever thought this sort of stuff happened
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Yep, fully grown adult.
Had a tantrum about the bloke who he was up against gaving a better "you should vote for me" speech than him.
He said to put in the minutes he obstained from voting due to it being an unfair contest.
Then threw the toys out the pram when he didn't get in, told everyone the club was a f***ing joke and left.
Wow. I hope someone took the opportunity to let him know he'd dropped his dummy on the way out [emoji476][emoji476]
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Sometimes things have to change. People do get upset but surely talking it over and not loosing the plot is a better way to deal with it. Eye opening chat this I never ever thought this sort of stuff happened
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One of the people that weren't even at the EGM moaned that the voting wasnt fair... But they didnt vote so clearly weren't bothered
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One of the people that weren't even at the EGM moaned that the voting wasnt fair... But they didnt vote so clearly weren't bothered
speaks for itself new 1 is very nice old 1 done on Windows paint ??
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speaks for itself new 1 is very nice old 1 done on Windows paint ??
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Was done about 20 years ago! Graphic design was a bit different then
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Was done about 20 years ago! Graphic design was a bit different then
Very good looking new badge. Suppose the ultras don't like change
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One of the people that weren't even at the EGM moaned that the voting wasnt fair... But they didnt vote so clearly weren't bothered
I find it stag-ering that people would leave the club over a logo
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I find it stag-ering that people would leave the club over a logo
Yeah they just bucked off! Couldn't believe it!
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Yeah they just bucked off! Couldn't believe it!
Oh deer oh deer
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Oh deer oh deer
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In Hind-sight all Doe we have all these stories im sure you will be fawn! Sorry i mean fine!
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In Hind-sight all Doe we have all these stories im sure you will be fawn! Sorry i mean fine!
haha yeah got some welcome advice for upcoming now thanks lads appreciate the help.
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Surprised nobody has commented on the lateness of the agm. How can you get anything done a month prior to the season. Far better off getting an agm done pre Xmas and giving yourself organised nice and early.
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Surprised nobody has commented on the lateness of the agm. How can you get anything done a month prior to the season. Far better off getting an agm done pre Xmas and giving yourself organised nice and early.
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I wasnt sure where Eliot was from so didnt ask haha
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I wasnt sure where Eliot was from so didnt ask haha
im from Sunderland mate. Yeah I understand this to be very late this year. It was scheduled for November but laziness within the club board has moved it to now so if anyone has any problems they're going to just be waved away or moved to next year !
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im from Sunderland mate. Yeah I understand this to be very late this year. It was scheduled for November but laziness within the club board has moved it to now so if anyone has any problems they're going to just be waved away or moved to next year !
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you are the forum's Paul Collingwood then !! first up you could give it ''right can we change the date of the AGM to November so we stop acting like a football club and start joining the rest of the cricket world''
hahahahahhahahaha :)
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Oh you can tell you haven't been to one! There's always a disagreement!
That's the best part!! We've had members storm out mid meeting before, it's better than watching the telly!
Ok I may be overselling it, AGM's (whether club or league) are largely dull affairs, where big decisions get made surprisingly easily but then you spend 30 minutes arguing over what colour pen should be used on league scorebooks or the flavour of crisps that should be served with teas.
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you are the forum's Paul Collingwood then !! first up you could give it ''right can we change the date of the AGM to November so we stop acting like a football club and start joining the rest of the cricket world''
hahahahahhahahaha :)
Yeah I've spent my morning writing down my issues and my suggestions. Also. I'm good but I'm no Paul Collingwood.
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my clubs agm has finally been arranged for april 1st. there usually have a decent turn out but never get anything organised as they all talk over each other and never agree.
we had one member walk out last year, she was told her opinion is that of one person and not the whole club. she stood up and called the person a (No Swearing Please) and went and sat in the bar for the rest of the night
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I can't see how you can get anything organised with an AGM on the 1st April. Nobody knows who the skipper is (least of all himself) and player recruitment goes out of the window if the previous captain is packing in. You don't know how the finances are and what you can and can't do. What if your fixture secretary/treasurer pack it in and you have no volunteers. Sounds like a recipe for chaos but it must work in some parts of the world.
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I can't see how you can get anything organised with an AGM on the 1st April. Nobody knows who the skipper is (least of all himself) and player recruitment goes out of the window if the previous captain is packing in. You don't know how the finances are and what you can and can't do. What if your fixture secretary/treasurer pack it in and you have no volunteers. Sounds like a recipe for chaos but it must work in some parts of the world.
Seems a bit of a joke to hold an AGM so late, don't you think ;)
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We had our AGM near the start of Feburary. It followed the same pattern to everyone elses by the looks of things. We did have one surprise tho... Someone never knocked the hot water boiler off for the showers after the last home game and it ended costing us £200 extra on the Electricity bill. Also found out we have for the last three years running taken over 20k across the bar, at least now I know where my wage goes.
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We had our AGM near the start of Feburary. It followed the same pattern to everyone elses by the looks of things. We did have one surprise tho... Someone never knocked the hot water boiler off for the showers after the last home game and it ended costing us £200 extra on the Electricity bill. Also found out we have for the last three years running taken over 20k across the bar, at least now I know where my wage goes.
you don't mean 3 years running 20 grand over the bar each season, you mean over the 3 years right?
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20k a year for three years running.
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Ours is this Friday, probably won't bother despite being new to the club...
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20k a year for three years running.
****AWESOME****
That's a top effort that.
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I have heard stories of some village clubs taking 100k a season over the bar, mainly because it's the only place to drink in the village.
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I have heard stories of some village clubs taking 100k a season over the bar, mainly because it's the only place to drink in the village.
Jesus Wept.
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I can't see how you can get anything organised with an AGM on the 1st April. Nobody knows who the skipper is (least of all himself) and player recruitment goes out of the window if the previous captain is packing in. You don't know how the finances are and what you can and can't do. What if your fixture secretary/treasurer pack it in and you have no volunteers. Sounds like a recipe for chaos but it must work in some parts of the world.
i couldn't agree more. the captain is staying which is about the only steady thing. at the last agm the club lost £1800 for the previous year and nobody actually knows how things have been this season due to there not being any committee meetings. the club hasn't had a chairman for the last year. i was the fixutre secretary and groundsman and i have just moved 2 hours away. i have got the fixtures finished but they dont know about looking after the ground and haven't organised much to address this issue.
im sure they will work somehow but i did feel april 1st was the perfect date for the way the club seems to have been run
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We have ours in November, it rounds off the season and everyone knows sphere they stand.
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i couldn't agree more. the captain is staying which is about the only steady thing. at the last agm the club lost £1800 for the previous year and nobody actually knows how things have been this season due to there not being any committee meetings. the club hasn't had a chairman for the last year. i was the fixutre secretary and groundsman and i have just moved 2 hours away. i have got the fixtures finished but they dont know about looking after the ground and haven't organised much to address this issue.
im sure they will work somehow but i did feel april 1st was the perfect date for the way the club seems to have been run
God knows what my club is going to do when the old guard decide to sack off being on the committee. We have so many non playing members it's not funny. The only thing anyone would stand for to be on the committee is a captains position. I'm in my first year as fixture secretary but before that I'd been on the committee as website administrator. Now we don't have a website administrator as I still do that too, unsurprisingly no one stepped up to do that when I took up the fixture sec job.
I'm going to stick at it for a couple of years but at some point in the not so distant future I'm going to get very sick of people happy as long as they can turn up and play their cricket week in week out as long as they aren't inconvenienced in any way. It's the same on match days, the only time you see anyone down near the meet time doing the jobs is the committee members, but then when you mention it to anyone all you get is a 'oh stop moaning' in response.
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God knows what my club is going to do when the old guard decide to sack off being on the committee. We have so many non playing members it's not funny. The only thing anyone would stand for to be on the committee is a captains position. I'm in my first year as fixture secretary but before that I'd been on the committee as website administrator. Now we don't have a website administrator as I still do that too, unsurprisingly no one stepped up to do that when I took up the fixture sec job.
I'm going to stick at it for a couple of years but at some point in the not so distant future I'm going to get very sick of people happy as long as they can turn up and play their cricket week in week out as long as they aren't inconvenienced in any way. It's the same on match days, the only time you see anyone down near the meet time doing the jobs is the committee members, but then when you mention it to anyone all you get is a 'oh stop moaning' in response.
sad to read this but the reality is your club is not alone. I'm absolutely sure the vast majority of our club's members don't have any idea what is involved on the committee and running a club.I've seen clubs local to me fold because there is no-one to run the club.Club members who actually run the club should be held in high esteem but clearly they are not in a lot of clubs.
As a player I always believed very strongly the most important aspect was what happened on the field, winning games, getting promotion,etc. About 10 years ago we had a new Chairman with a background in business. When we first me he let me talk for an hour about what I expected to happen( I was club Captain then) and after I'd finished he just said:
''the sooner you realise that what happens off the field is now our priority and will be going forward the sooner you will understand how the club works, and the better our relationship will be''
and that was that !! essentially without the people who give up their time to run things any club is dead in the water.
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God knows what my club is going to do when the old guard decide to sack off being on the committee. We have so many non playing members it's not funny. The only thing anyone would stand for to be on the committee is a captains position. I'm in my first year as fixture secretary but before that I'd been on the committee as website administrator. Now we don't have a website administrator as I still do that too, unsurprisingly no one stepped up to do that when I took up the fixture sec job.
I'm going to stick at it for a couple of years but at some point in the not so distant future I'm going to get very sick of people happy as long as they can turn up and play their cricket week in week out as long as they aren't inconvenienced in any way. It's the same on match days, the only time you see anyone down near the meet time doing the jobs is the committee members, but then when you mention it to anyone all you get is a 'oh stop moaning' in response.
What you've eluded to is why I've walked away from organising/committee and simply going to just turn up and play like most others. I'm more than happy to put hours of work in but not if others simply do nothing and get preferred treatment over others. Sod that, it's amateur cricket , no one is 'needed'
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We have a committee of 20 but 3 are making the decisions for the rest of us the Treasurer chairman and secretary so i go along to listen so I know whats going on also get the impression that certian things have already been decided on before its put to the rest of the committee
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We have a committee of 20 but 3 are making the decisions for the rest of us the Treasurer chairman and secretary so i go along to listen so I know whats going on also get the impression that certian things have already been decided on before its put to the rest of the committee
Tbf, having less people has advantages over large committees. The issue is getting the right 3/5 people in those 'power' roles. Usually it's people with vested interests, power mad or old and out of touch.
Still, having said all that.. Clubs desperately (well, other than clubs here as everyone seems to have the best clubs ever) need players and most of all people to run them/do the grounds etc
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We only have an eight man committee. 3 of the committee almost never play any more. Our treasurer is an absolute saint of a bloke, played loads in the 80's, 90's and early '00s but then married and had kids and has played maybe 5 games in the last 7 years. He is a groundskeeper at the school up the road from our club and spends his lunch break every day in the summer working on our ground and a former accountant so is more than handy with the books. He regularly asks people to get down in the evenings to do something like rolling but the only people who ever turn up are committee members. He literally begs others to do it and rather disgustingly everyone completely ignores it.
In a weird way I'm almost looking forward to the day when he decides to jack it all in. The whole club will literally go to pot and I'll be sat there with a smug 'I told you so' look on my face when the masses start whinging that the deck is (No Swearing Please) and the club's money has vanished.
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Might be interesting to find out where everyone has their AGM meetings, both the clubs I play for have them in the local pub we usually go to after a game.
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Might be interesting to find out where everyone has their AGM meetings, both the clubs I play for have them in the local pub we usually go to after a game.
Our ground is owned by a social club, which is an absolute godsend. It's literally like having a completely staffed and stocked bar on site and we always have all meetings in there. Got a committee meeting tonight as it happens.
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We have a club house and bar. We sit in there.
Amusingly as its an "agm" we have 2.
One in October to sort the stuff out for next year.
Then one in march(next Thursday) to sort small bits before season starts.
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Ours is next Wednesday and is in a local village hall with no boozer in sight :(
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We hold ours in the Club House, with a fully stocked bar and a Key to shut it when we like ;)
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In the pavilion and leftover beer from the season is free to a good home :D
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We hold ours in the Club House, with a fully stocked bar and a Key to shut it when we like ;)
I'm just gonna come to yours instead then, it's only a 30 minute trip.
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I'm just gonna come to yours instead then, it's only a 30 minute trip.
Which club does @shamelessshaun play for, is it Whitehaven or someone down that way?
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Egremont I think!
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Egremont I think!
You'd be correct.
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I don't know exactly what went on at our AGM this year as I was on nights but there was a lot of changes on the committee. In fact only the child welfare officer and treasurer stayed in their jobs. The former groundsman claims that he resigned in protest over the president being voted out, in actual fact he was voted out as well (almost unanimously) because everyone was complaining about the poor job he was doing.
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I don't know exactly what went on at our AGM this year as I was on nights but there was a lot of changes on the committee. In fact only the child welfare officer and treasurer stayed in their jobs. The former groundsman claims that he resigned in protest over the president being voted out, in actual fact he was voted out as well (almost unanimously) because everyone was complaining about the poor job he was doing.
Wait, you guys have to vote in a groundsman? It's only me and the current groundsman who can get the roller started at our club, if he got voted out we'd be screwed!
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Wait, you guys have to vote in a groundsman? It's only me and the current groundsman who can get the roller started at our club, if he got voted out we'd be screwed!
Yeah, normally it's a rubber stamp vote but this time around they had to actually make a choice.
Edit: we have players that do gardening related jobs for a living so it's not like we're short of people when in a pinch, one of those guys is now the official groundsman and his employers are sponsoring us.
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Yeah, normally it's a rubber stamp vote but this time around they had to actually make a choice.
Edit: we have players that do gardening related jobs for a living so it's not like we're short of people when in a pinch, one of those guys is now the official groundsman and his employers are sponsoring us.
Great decision by them! "Wow their ground looks nice, best get him to do my garden! Wonder who he works for... Oh its their sponsor!"