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Equipment => Other Gear => Topic started by: Cricketfan99 on March 23, 2016, 03:02:17 AM
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Hello everyone, and thank you all in advance for all the responses, much appreciated.
I want to buy a roll of clear premium anti scuff sheet (clear bat protective sheet) from where ever that sells it, ideally the manufacturer. I think the uk made one is the best. but if anyone sells it from anywhere else that will do, as long its the premium quality one. (One that sticks).
they are about £5-7 a sheet for about 13 inches (33 cm) long + ~£3 postage . So might be cheaper if i bought the full roll from somewhere.
Thanks all.
Plus just a quick thought, Newberry sell a hammer edge sheet that has fibre tape on it. Now which one will help the ball to rebound of the bat a but more.. this harder style or the clear sheet that eg salix use...
Now we don't have any scientific results to measure the 'coefficient of restitution' of the ball (how far a ball bounces) just by the anti scuff sheets (or do we?). If we did or in theory which will be better and why?
My thinking is that the laminate bats and some of the skyer catches have a double layer of materials. The laminate bat will help as the two layers of wood will together give a better rebound (i think) as for the skier this certainly helps as it has rubber that helps impart more 'impulse' onto the ball. (basically this is a precise physics word for more force onto the ball hence more rebound.... ) now in theory should a harder antiscuff sheet (like the newberry hammer edge) may work better then a softer one (like the ones salix or gn or gm us eon their bats), or the other way round? and why?
Im guessing the addition of them (either the harder or softer sheet) will be better then a naked bat? also any thoughts...
so in theory if i put like 10 of these sheets on, (one on top of each other like a big sandwich) which i won't, which will work best?
thanks!!!
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If you want thinnest go fibreglass sheets.
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thanks but fibre glass are the worst to get off, don't look nice, hide the bat and don't think aid in rebound as much as the others. iv thrown them in the bin in the past. don't even think they are worth giving away for free.
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thanks but fibre glass are the worst to get off, don't look nice, hide the bat and don't think aid in rebound as much as the others. iv thrown them in the bin in the past. don't even think they are worth giving away for free.
Guess the countless amount of pros that use them are doing something wrong then.
Scuffs are generally there to protect a bat. Not add performance. In fact there's lots of threads on here that suggest it's actually detrimental to performance. Even if a very small effect.
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Guess the countless amount of pros that use them are doing something wrong then.
Scuffs are generally there to protect a bat. Not add performance. In fact there's lots of threads on here that suggest it's actually detrimental to performance. Even if a very small effect.
countless amount of pros who are using them are using them to be detrimental to performance. makes a lot of sense.
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thanks but fibre glass are the worst to get off, don't look nice, hide the bat and don't think aid in rebound as much as the others. iv thrown them in the bin in the past. don't even think they are worth giving away for free.
Sorry but your wrong, bar the harder to get off part. This place baffles me sometimes.
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I have used the hammer edge, armourtech by kookaburra, the salix and the readers anti scuff. Last 2 seasons I have used the fibre tech by gray Nicolls and I personally think it's a lot better feel like the rebound is better and not a single mark underneath the face so far. If you have no interest in the fibre tech then use the armourtech or salix as I find the hammer edge cracks up quite a bit and the readers you may as well have no face on the bat.
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How's 95p per sheet delivered? http://cricmart.in/antiscuff-sheet-1st-grade/ (http://cricmart.in/antiscuff-sheet-1st-grade/)
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Hello everyone, and thank you all in advance for all the responses, much appreciated.
I want to buy a roll of clear premium anti scuff sheet (clear bat protective sheet) from where ever that sells it, ideally the manufacturer. I think the uk made one is the best. but if anyone sells it from anywhere else that will do, as long its the premium quality one. (One that sticks).
they are about £5-7 a sheet for about 13 inches (33 cm) long + ~£3 postage . So might be cheaper if i bought the full roll from somewhere.
Thanks all.
From us it is £5.50 including postage for a whole metre of the best quality stuff as used by a number of big brands.
A whole 50 metre roll would be £210 inc postage.
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How's 95p per sheet delivered? [url]http://cricmart.in/antiscuff-sheet-1st-grade/[/url] ([url]http://cricmart.in/antiscuff-sheet-1st-grade/[/url])
May as well put a quid in the bin, by comparison the quality is nowhere near as good.
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May as well put a quid in the bin, by comparison the quality is nowhere near as good.
Have you purchased some yourself then?
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Have you purchased some yourself then?
I've got one of them
Not put it on a bat yet, but happy to do a comparison of them vs the sheet you get off Jake of you don't beleive us about the difference in quality...
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I've got one of them
Not put it on a bat yet, but happy to do a comparison of them vs the sheet you get off Jake of you don't beleive us about the difference in quality...
I've got a few myself thanks, they're perfectly fine and as good as any clear scuff sheet that isn't a hammer edge. I just find the strategy Vitas takes embarrassing, by all means say what you have available, but why feel the need to lie about the quality of other products, whilst claiming that you have the "best quality stuff."
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I've got a few myself thanks, they're perfectly fine and as good as any clear scuff sheet that isn't a hammer edge. I just find the strategy Vitas takes embarrassing, by all means say what you have available, but why feel the need to lie about the quality of other products, whilst claiming that you have the "best quality stuff."
I actually found them to be thicker and stiffer than the stuff Jake sells, which leads the the edges ripping (maybe I should use the middle) more than others.
Would I use the SS sheets on my own bats? Yes, but only because I already have them.
Would I recommend then to others? Yes, but buy a few as they need replacing a few times a season if you want your bat to keep looking tidy.
You get what you pay for. There's nothing wrong with the SS sheets but I do find the stuff off the roll is superior. Just my opinion
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Have you purchased some yourself then?
Nope.
Knocked in dozens, maybe hundreds of bats purchased from Asia with this exact sheet and very similar sheets wrapped round the handle that the customer has asked me to apply once I'm finished.
My experience is it tends not to stick, leaving bubbles at best, or at worst a scuff sheet on the floor after it falls off before the customer collects their bat. Sometimes it seems a lot more brittle, other times way too soft/delicate (meaning it will tear very easily) compared to the sheets we sell.
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I've got a few myself thanks, they're perfectly fine and as good as any clear scuff sheet that isn't a hammer edge. I just find the strategy Vitas takes embarrassing, by all means say what you have available, but why feel the need to lie about the quality of other products, whilst claiming that you have the "best quality stuff."
I have had this and the ones from the roll from Vitas. I can say that there is absolutely no comparison. I would strongly suggest you get it from Vitas, it is more supple and sticks very well. it works out about 2 quid a bat. If you want to save a quid and buy an inferior product then go for it.
Is there any need for some of the rudeness on the forum. It is starting to get a bit much.
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@rp27 It wasn't meant as a comment to cause friction. Just my opinion on a product that in my experience is nowhere near as good.
If you like the sheets you have purchased then that is great, I hope they serve you well.
This does have some echoes of a few years ago when many forum members went crazy for the Slazenger scuff sheets from Sports Direct for £1. They were the best things ever if i remember correctly. However once the cricket season kicked in and the sheets had come unstuck or disintegrated, opinions soon changed.
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I've got a few myself thanks, they're perfectly fine and as good as any clear scuff sheet that isn't a hammer edge. I just find the strategy Vitas takes embarrassing, by all means say what you have available, but why feel the need to lie about the quality of other products, whilst claiming that you have the "best quality stuff."
chill out fella. THe one thing we can say is Jake will have seen and knocked in all the different types so should have a good idea what is good and what is bad.
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@rp27 It wasn't meant as a comment to cause friction. Just my opinion on a product that in my experience is nowhere near as good.
If you like the sheets you have purchased then that is great, I hope they serve you well.
This does have some echoes of a few years ago when many forum members went crazy for the Slazenger scuff sheets from Sports Direct for £1. They were the best things ever if i remember correctly. However once the cricket season kicked in and the sheets had come unstuck or disintegrated, opinions soon changed.
Fair enough, you've obviously got more experience with scuff sheets than me, and I'm not doubting yours are better, I just didn't really see the need for you to tell people they would essentially binning a quid buying them. The ones I bought have been fine so far but I guess we will see how they fare when the season starts.
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Fair enough, you've obviously got more experience with scuff sheets than me, and I'm not doubting yours are better, I just didn't really see the need for you to tell people they would essentially binning a quid buying them. The ones I bought have been fine so far but I guess we will see how they fare when the season starts.
Yes maybe that comment was a little too harsh, worded in a way as if i'm looking down at someone. It wasn't the intention. But I must say i have had to put plenty of these sheets in the bin not long after failing to apply to a bat adequately.
Perhaps I'm doing it wrong, but by comparison the sheets we sell go on like a dream, and there is even the flexibility to remove them multiple times (only immediately after applying) to make adjustments if needed - ie if i apply it wonky etc.
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What scuffs have a used! Lots.
Hammer edge! Don't rate, tad to hard imo and had a few crack and harden with age.
Asain imported ones(the same as the ton) had ones that don't stick, and a few that do stick but don't like impacts. Will avoid now. Quality varies.
Bulldog helicopter scuff. Good hard wearing and sticky. Recommend.
B3 scuff sheets, good hard wearing and sticky, recommend.
Vitas scuff roll, good hard wearing and sticky m, recommend.
(I have a feeling the above 3 are one and the same)
B3 full width fibre tape! My favourite, very hard wearing, offers great protection and bats still ping lovely!
Gray nics fibreglass. My 2nd favourite. Do similar to b3s tape but the strands can be less uniformed, so therefore uglier(although all think there ugly anyway).
I will add, I've not come across a scuff sheet yet that likes edges, all end up with peeling and bubbling as I tend to edge a lot!! Lol
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Sorry but your wrong, bar the harder to get off part. This place baffles me sometimes.
its easy to say your wrong, its better to provide evidence or rationale to prove your point.
for the sake of clarification I'm referring to the fibre face sheets that are not clear. they don't look nice to me... iv never seen a top end bat with them on. but I've seen top end bats with clear sheets.
and as they hide the bat, why is this wrong?
as for aiding rebound. unless there is clear evidence for this, everything is just opinion. mine and yours, which makes you no more or no less correct than me unless proven... however if i present logic and you don't, it makes me at least in my view closer to be correct, then someone who just says no your wrong without any logical argument or evidence
i don't think the fibre tape aids rebound. they are soft and would actually act as a shock absorber so wont aid repercussion. however as they are so thin, the difference may be little or negligible.
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How's 95p per sheet delivered? [url]http://cricmart.in/antiscuff-sheet-1st-grade/[/url] ([url]http://cricmart.in/antiscuff-sheet-1st-grade/[/url])
wow thats cheap, where is it made? I'm after the ones made in england . no disrespect to those made elsewhere, just I'm a customer who doesn't know his market so doesn't have the energy to go through testing all the stuff from eg Pak / Ind etc... they may make them as good or better. but i don't know where to find them, and be sure they are the premium ones.
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I have used the hammer edge, armourtech by kookaburra, the salix and the readers anti scuff. Last 2 seasons I have used the fibre tech by gray Nicolls and I personally think it's a lot better feel like the rebound is better and not a single mark underneath the face so far. If you have no interest in the fibre tech then use the armourtech or salix as I find the hammer edge cracks up quite a bit and the readers you may as well have no face on the bat.
i agree with you. thanks for the info. very nice of you.
my experience with the fibre sheets was bad only because i think i got the cheapest ones... maybe the better ones are obviously better. however i still think they will cover the face of the bat, and i want to see the grains on my bat...
back the main question, where do i buy a full roll of it. i understood they are made in England so who manufactures them and how do i contact them. thats the million dollar question. thanks
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its easy to say your wrong, its better to provide evidence or rationale to prove your point.
for the sake of clarification I'm referring to the fibre face sheets that are not clear. they don't look nice to me... iv never seen a top end bat with them on. but I've seen top end bats with clear sheets.
and as they hide the bat, why is this wrong?
as for aiding rebound. unless there is clear evidence for this, everything is just opinion. mine and yours, which makes you no more or no less correct than me unless proven... however if i present logic and you don't, it makes me at least in my view closer to be correct, then someone who just says no your wrong without any logical argument or evidence
i don't think the fibre tape aids rebound. they are soft and would actually act as a shock absorber so wont aid repercussion. however as they are so thin, the difference may be little or negligible.
Take a look at some of the test players these days and you will see plenty of the fibre sheets... I know Michael Clarke used them and I have seen many others
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I am guessing certain pro's use it as it is lighter than other alternatives and offers excellent protection. The pro's that do use it tend to be the ones that like there bats to last. So that tells its own story. Personally I don't use the fibre sheets as it hides the grains and can potentially hide any damage that might be occurring under the face, which if caught early could be prevented from getting serious. Then there is the nightmare of trying to remove it. The glue is an absolute pain to get off. Most people just sand it off but this takes about 3-4 sand disks which can work out quite costly. The benefit of the top quality UK scuff sheet is the excellent quality. Very rarely will you get any tears, sticks very well, offers excellent protection and relatively easy to remove with hardly any glue residue. So for me there is only one winner.