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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: cd0070 on January 03, 2010, 04:29:15 PM
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All time pace attack IMO - Imran Khan, Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis..
WI would be 2nd just by an inch Holding and boys were nasty too..
Currently - Again have to go with the Paki team after last night if the trio of Mohamad's (Asif, Ameer and Sami) are healthy they can cause havoc on any lineup on any kind of pitch.. yorkers, swing, leg cutters, bouncers etc... you name it they got it.. scary sight they arent that old either, they can be around for awhile..
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All time pace attack IMO - Imran Khan, Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis..
WI would be 2nd just by an inch Holding and boys were nasty too..
Currently - Again have to go with the (No Racism Please) team after last night if the trio of Mohamad's (Asif, Ameer and Sami) are healthy they can cause havoc on any lineup on any kind of pitch.. yorkers, swing, leg cutters, bouncers etc... you name it they got it.. scary sight they arent that old either, they can be around for awhile..
Sorry disagree, at their best McGrath, Gillespie and either Lee or Kasprowicz and the Windies battery of fast bowling where immense. can't choose between them.
Asif is useless unless there's some grass on the wicket. I mean not many batsmen will be worried of an 80mph seamer on a flat track.
Sami also was fortunate that the track had grass on it. As during his career, more often than not, he was a spray gun.
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atm i dnt think is there any real out and out pace attacks siddle and johnson are pacey followed up with a bit of Bolly nickers ! west indies new boy roach has some pace behind him unfortuantly dazzer sammy and gavin tounge wouldnt be worrying me ! hard one to find best pace attack atm have to say pakistan to !
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and currently I would say Australia's attack is the most pacy. I mean Siddle can touch 150kph. Johnson can clock 155kph. The there's Bollinger and Hilfenhaus whom both can get into the mid 140's. Watson isn't to far behind either, around 140 kph.
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south africa seem to have a pretty quick attack, steyn, morkel, de wet/ntini, all are quick
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At the moment..Lee, Siddle, Johnson, Hifenhouse/Bolliger
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I agree with Apple, they have everything covered aswell Steyn is quick and skiddy and Morkel is quick and bouncy
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south africa seem to have a pretty quick attack, steyn, morkel, de wet/ntini, all are quick
yes but can they take 20 wickets this goes out to all the suggestions out there , to be a top class pace attack they must be able to take 20 wickets with the exception of say 4 to a spinner or medium pacer
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I think you would be hard pressed to take Holding, Roberts, Marshall and Lillee to piece's on any track.
Today you have yet to find a current pace bowler who has done enough to be rated at the top, maybe Lee has come the closest.
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I think he has taken valuable wickets during his time and no mention of Test only status in header, think what Lee did in the recent T20 Club Cup in India.
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Of all time Holding, Ambrose, Donald, Lillee, Akram.
Ooops forgot about akram!
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There's no doubting Brett Lee's ability and talent. Not everyone can bowl at 150kph, but he has the ability to reserve swing it at that pace as well which makes him unplayable at times. his control in ODI seems to be better than Test cricket though. But in Test matches he was often there to soften up the opposition whilst McGrath would suffocate them with his accuracy.
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Marshall Garner Wasim Lee Mcgrath
Marshall for his pace and acurracy
Garner for his ability to break toes
Wasim for reverse swing also brings the left arm option
Lee for pace and batting
Glenn for accuracy
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If all the Fast Bowlers have to be from the same country at the same time up there close to the top (if not at the top) would have to be the West Indies in the mid 70s with the likes of Michael Holding, Malcolm Marshall, Joel Garner, Andy Roberts & Colin Croft. There are other combinations from Australia (like Lillee/Thomson), Pakistan and other countries but for Best Pace Attack of all time .. and Current I think the perspective of the opposition batsmen could help answer the question. The depth of that relentless fast bowling is probably unequalled. Though I'm not sure all five players played in a match all at the same time. What a great problem to have if you were a West Indies selector back in the mid 70s.
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Marshall Wasim McGrath Lillee. Ouch.
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I'd be happy to captain that attack ;)
Haha so would i!
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and currently I would say Australia's attack is the most pacy. I mean Siddle can touch 150kph. Johnson can clock 155kph. The there's Bollinger and Hilfenhaus whom both can get into the mid 140's. Watson isn't to far behind either, around 140 kph.
Sorry Jeet but I've never seen Johnson hit 155 he barely gets to 150
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I would have a five-prong pace attack and use part time spinners lol
I would have Thomson, Ambrose, Akhtar, Akram and Walsh
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All very new and contemporary (relatively speaking)
How about the England attack that won the Bodyline series- especially Larwood?
Fred Trueman/ Frank Tyson/ Brian Statham
Marshall/ Holding/ Roberts- most west indians from the 70s and 80s take some beating.
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The greatest fast bowler of all time has to be Harold Larwood.....95+ mph on uncovered pitches, add to that he was only 5'7 so the short stuff came at you like an exocet!!! makes you wonder what he would be like with today's training and diets!
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they should be sent down the pits and made to mine for 10 years before turning pro! I got the book for Xmas!!!
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I found his life story pretty sad, he took all the flak for body line in this country and ironically was hailed a hero by the Aussies when he retired there!!! unbelievable talent and should be hailed as one of the greatest English cricketers of all time!!!
Check out his action.....poetry in motion!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwL1VOBG6Vo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwL1VOBG6Vo)
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his rhythm is glorious.
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Young quickies could learn so much from studying him and the likes of Holding. Its not brute force that achieves pace. Its rhythm and timming, also notice how they carry their speed through the crease.......Shame such a talent is virtually lost on today's generation! Watch these guys and you will learn so much...Fred Truman and Brian Statham aswell! As for Batsman I wonder how many youngsters have heard of Hanif Mohamed???
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I thought about Tyson and Larwood. Watching the old slo motion of their action is amazing.
Bradman described in his book "the art of cricket" the way Tyson hurled himself at the batsmen......the best way to describe his impeccible follow through.
Is it just assumed fact that Larwood was around 95mph?
If the pre/post war guys were as quick as they say they were.
Tyson, Lindwall, Larwood and Wes Hall. End of chapter.
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SF Barnes?
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They have put films of Larwood through digital process and his cruising speeds were around 90mph but during the Bodyline footage his avarage was up at 95mph! so there must have been deliveries above the ton mark....which the more you think of it the more increadble it is for 1932! i mean the canvas and leather soled boots alone must of hampered him!!!
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Just reading his book- he was also only 5 foot 7 inches!
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And probably very little formal training, look how natural his action is!