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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: thedon on May 09, 2016, 07:33:21 PM
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Question for forumites. Will a bat lose its ping eventually? If so why and how long does a bat remain I optimum condition?
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Unfortunately I never use a bat long enough to get to that point, trying to rotate through the collection... As such have no idea, but I would imagine they would deteriorate at some point.
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I have a Salix that is nearly 4 years old and it is still going as well as ever. Just the usual surface cracks and damage that gives character to the bit of wood
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Nope, barring total destruction I suppose. Oldest bat (2005) I have is my favourite ever - the splice is heavily cracked, the toe went years ago, and the face is delaminated to hell. It still pings bouncing a ball on it as well as any other bat I own. Brought it briefly out of retirement for a t20 game when I was short of good bats a couple years ago and was hitting sixes no problem at all, only stopped using it when bits actually started breaking off the face. Wish I'd taken care of it better earlier in it's life!
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Our Aussie pro last year brought over a net bat that he liked but it was completely dead, there was just no life in the middle at all. Don't think there was anything particularly wrong with it, it just did not ping well.
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I think giving a bat a good refurb and sanding can often reawaken it. I've had 2 or 3 bats in for refurbs which have surprised the teammates when they received them back! I recall Laver mentioning that sometime ago too - I have personally never used a bat for long enough to feel the performance deteriorate, but I would imagine that it may happen eventually!
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I suppose not unless it breaks apart. Got an early 2000s CA bat handed down from my uncle who is an ex-First Class player, the bat has an exceptional ping.
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All of you must be banned from this forum for keeping and using such old bats :)
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Nope, barring total destruction I suppose. Oldest bat (2005) I have is my favourite ever - the splice is heavily cracked, the toe went years ago, and the face is delaminated to hell. It still pings bouncing a ball on it as well as any other bat I own. Brought it briefly out of retirement for a t20 game when I was short of good bats a couple years ago and was hitting sixes no problem at all, only stopped using it when bits actually started breaking off the face. Wish I'd taken care of it better earlier in it's life!
This is good news for those of us that like older bats,perhaps not the general forum trend thou !
I have heard it said many times grade 1 willow does get better as it gets older and is heavily used. I don't know if this is true or not. I would think a bat well looked after that does not dry out it's certainly possible......
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All of you must be banned from this forum for keeping and using such old bats :)
These are from our "Vintage" collection... as CBF member you should have one too :D
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Bats do lose there ping but if it's due to useage no one can say when repressing the blade can to some degree bring the ping back
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Don't bats apparently reach their leak performance just before they start to delaminate?
Not that many on here use one for long enough to know, but I'm sure I've seen that somewhere
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There is of course a very well known example everyone on the forum will know:
Sachins bat towards the end of his career, he hit a purple patch coming back from his elbow problems and used something most of us would throw away. Tape everywhere delamination all over the face.
He is the only player I've seen in recent memory using a bat so well used.
I could be wrong but think some fielding side complained bits of the bat could become embedded in the ball
Or is that just urban myth?
:)
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There is of course a very well known example everyone on the forum will know:
Sachins bat towards the end of his career, he hit a purple patch coming back from his elbow problems and used something most of us would throw away. Tape everywhere delamination all over the face.
He is the only player I've seen in recent memory using a bat so well used.
I could be wrong but think some fielding side complained bits of the bat could become embedded in the ball
Or is that just urban myth?
:)
I remember one of the commentators mentioning he scored 37% of his centuries with that bat. That could be about 37 centuries in total or lesser depending he meant test 100s, still a lot of runs.
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Don't bats apparently reach their leak performance just before they start to delaminate?
Not that many on here use one for long enough to know, but I'm sure I've seen that somewhere
that's been my experience, its seems to be like a two edge sword, " awesome this bat is really going, time to get the next one ready"
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Delamination and cracking: when a bat face starts to delaminate it is losing it's ping when a bat face starts to crack horizontally it is reaching its peak.
All quality willow should eventually crack.
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Delamination and cracking: when a bat face starts to delaminate it is losing it's ping when a bat face starts to crack horizontally it is reaching its peak.
All quality willow should eventually crack.
I've only ever had bats with a quality edge, the middle of mine never seems to get any cherries or crack :-[
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Wasn't the idea behind Hunts County's Revolution bat to emulate the high performance of a delaminated bat?
Surface cracks are, using the true definition, a bat 'opening up'. Jake from Vitas explains this well.
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Theoretically speaking, the natural decomposition of all mater is an impregnable process. Some form of matter decomposes slower or faster then others.
Same goes with timber.
The moisture will keep drying over the years (at a slower rate may be) till it gets dry and brittle. And the bat WILL lose its ping.
Imagine playing with those dark brown 1950"s bats in the museums - I don't think that willow will have much life left in it.
I have also heard that during hot summer days, keeping the bat in a car trunk for long times will choke the life out of the blade as the moisture will quickly dry out of the timber.
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My old gray nicks is coming up to 30 yrs old, but still pings better than any bat I've seen!
15mm edges, etc
Only reason I've not got it re handled is because I stupidly cut the blade down for my son to use
The bat has no de lamination
I measured a six I hit many moons ago with it, at well over 100m with this bat
I'm lucky if I can clear 80m these days
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My old gray nicks is coming up to 30 yrs old, but still pings better than any bat I've seen!
15mm edges, etc
Only reason I've not got it re handled is because I stupidly cut the blade down for my son to use
The bat has no de lamination
I measured a six I hit many moons ago with it, at well over 100m with this bat
I'm lucky if I can clear 80m these days
15 MM edges get the hell outta here!!!!!!!! :) :)
out of curiosity.......is this particular bat you have gone out of your way to look after? or it just happens to still PING out of luck....or maybe because back-in-the-day they made bats.......'properly' as in made to last.
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My old gray nicks is coming up to 30 yrs old, but still pings better than any bat I've seen!
15mm edges, etc
Only reason I've not got it re handled is because I stupidly cut the blade down for my son to use
The bat has no de lamination
I measured a six I hit many moons ago with it, at well over 100m with this bat
I'm lucky if I can clear 80m these days
I agree, I enjoy a similar experience with a 25 yr old bat. My old bat has been well looked after though
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Don't bats apparently reach their leak performance just before they start to delaminate?
Not that many on here use one for long enough to know, but I'm sure I've seen that somewhere
For gods sake Cam, you're so arrogant. How dare you make a post that contributes to the topic! ;)
I've had one that delaminated, a GN Oblivion Carbo. I scored a lot of runs with it but funnily enough I never really rated its performance. Once it delaminated I used that as an excuse to go buy a new bat, so couldn't tell you whether it was better or worse to be honest.
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The bats never been looked after as such
Must have thousands of runs on it
Just stuck a vernier calliper on it
19mm edges
50mm spine
I'm sure it was about 2.8 when new,,the bloke I got it off said it was too heavy!!
And in those days, you couldn't buy a duff gray nicks
I paid 25 quid for it!!
There is a bit of de lam on the face, but probably from dodgy balls
The next forum net we have, I will bring it along