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General Cricket => World Cricket => England => Topic started by: edge on June 01, 2016, 04:41:19 PM
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So, CBF county fans, let's hear your scouting tips. Who's out there in the county setups that has potential for an England career, in any format? Must be completely uncapped and not previously involved in England squads, the younger and more unheard of the better. Who are your local heroes you think might get a game for their country one day, or who you'd like to see play?
I'll kick you off with one suggestion - Jack Taylor, of Gloucestershire. Off-spinning all-rounder, definite potential for limited overs. 24, gets decent action on the ball and takes a fair amounts of wickets, hits big and regularly pulls off implausible run chases from 7/8 in the order. Would have comfortably made the North v South one-day game if it took place last year.
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My cheat entry as he's got a test cap, although played as a bowler when he's a batsman - Scott Borthwick, potentially a replacement for Compton, could go straight in at 3 or bat 5 with Vince moving up the order.
Mason Crane - young Hampshire leg spinner, looks a very good prospect.
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Ben duckett on current form
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I think Nick Gubbins will play for England at some point.
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Nick Browne at Essex might be worth a shout
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Isn't Kohler-Codmore scoring runs for fun at the moment?
If he keeps that up he may be in line for a call up
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Keaton Jennings had a decent start to the year up at Durham but not sure what he's done recently
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At Yorkshire, Matt Fisher is a nailed on certainty - the kid has got serious wheels and a good head on his shoulders.
Another one I'm starting to wonder about is Brett D'Oliveira. A bit older, but he has followed the Smith/White/Borthwick route of leg spinner to top order bat, and is looking classy as all hell doing it. The difference is, he still bowls the leggies.
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So, CBF county fans, let's hear your scouting tips. Who's out there in the county setups that has potential for an England career, in any format? Must be completely uncapped and not previously involved in England squads, the younger and more unheard of the better. Who are your local heroes you think might get a game for their country one day, or who you'd like to see play?
I'll kick you off with one suggestion - Jack Taylor, of Gloucestershire. Off-spinning all-rounder, definite potential for limited overs. 24, gets decent action on the ball and takes a fair amounts of wickets, hits big and regularly pulls off implausible run chases from 7/8 in the order. Would have comfortably made the North v South one-day game if it took place last year.
He's a chucker
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Chris Nash.
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Stuart Meaker lives. Long live Stuart Meaker
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Bell Drummond is churning them out for a laugh
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Get mills in the limited overs squad
1 ball under 90mph in his first over and got Gayle with a 93.3mph Yorker. Did him for pace
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that first over was absolute gas!
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Joe Clarke for Worcester really good player and played for the lions last winter at 19
Duckett
Bell-Drummond
Northeast
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tymal mills has to play in the t20 with that sort of pace.
kohler-cadmore is looking very good this season and defintely improving. still only 21.
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He's a chucker
Knew this would come from you haha! Tested as ok now supposedly, just don't look too closely from behind the bowler's arm...
@Buzz, Meaker's played already, come on ;)
Did not realise TKC was only 21! Mills for sure, and Bell-Drummond must have been on the radar for a good while. Anyone rate Riki Wessels' chances when he qualifies?
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having watched taylor for the last couple of days. not going to say he is a chucker but it doesnt look like a straight arm either. although he did bat well in the second innings to win the game for gloucester
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Borthwick for Compton, Ball for Finn.
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div 2 runs might not be flavour of the month for the ECB but Dan Lawrence is a very good prospect
Ben Foakes at Surrey might be worth a look at, very tidy keeper but needs a few more with the bat, not being helped at the moment with Surrey collapsing frequently
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Joe Clarke is going to be a fine young player, as is Mason Crane.
Mills was electric last night and I am well informed that Tom Abel is going to be rather special
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anyone rate Riki Wessels' chances when he qualifies?
I thought he already qualified, as he's been playing over here for at least 4 seasons, and wasn't kolpak after 2 years?
I just got the impression from him he was happy where he was
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Dan Lawrence has got to be nailed on for the future England squad surely? Looks in a different league at the U19 world cup and has scored some decent runs already in the CC
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Riki wessel's is a serious cricket if not in the red ball form surely he has to get in based on his white ball game, I think if Compton doesn't really get a score in the next test surely Borthwick comes in and replaces him for the Pakistan series. Jack burnham for Durham will play for England leading run scorer during the u-19 World Cup and already has a championship hundred to his name
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He's a chucker
Knew this would come from you haha! Tested as ok now supposedly, just don't look too closely from behind the bowler's arm...
Hmmm... http://www.gloscricket.co.uk/15932-2/ (http://www.gloscricket.co.uk/15932-2/)
Gloucestershire County Cricket Club today announced that, with immediate effect, Jack Taylor has been suspended from bowling by the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB).
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Hmmm... [url]http://www.gloscricket.co.uk/15932-2/[/url] ([url]http://www.gloscricket.co.uk/15932-2/[/url])
Gloucestershire County Cricket Club today announced that, with immediate effect, Jack Taylor has been suspended from bowling by the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB).
Ouch! Was sitting in the pavilion the other day having a chat about how bendy his action looked from behind the arm, so not fully surprised... surely after you've been suspended once you sort it out to be below the limit though! Big blow for Glos, that's for sure.
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Jack Taylor suspended from bowling!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36434460 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36434460)
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http://stats.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=4;host=1;id=2016;type=season (http://stats.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=4;host=1;id=2016;type=season)
this is first class batting stats (most runs) for this season, tom westley Nick Browne and Dan bell-drummond top the run charts with 807, 790 and 769 the next three all have international caps already (bairstow, joyce and samit) then more youngsters, d'oliveira and duckett
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/engine/records/bowling/most_wickets_career.html?class=4;host=1;id=2016;type=season (http://stats.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/engine/records/bowling/most_wickets_career.html?class=4;host=1;id=2016;type=season)
and this is bowling (most wickets) where its napier topping the charts with jamie porter next then jimmy ans woakes
so id say we have plenty of batting talent comiong through but where are the next bowlers going to be? it seems to be the same old bowlers doing all the damage with the odd exception such as jake ball and tom curran
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Jamie Porter hasn't done too bad this season. He has a bit of pace as well.
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[url]http://stats.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=4;host=1;id=2016;type=season[/url] ([url]http://stats.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?class=4;host=1;id=2016;type=season[/url])
this is first class batting stats (most runs) for this season, tom westley Nick Browne and Dan bell-drummond top the run charts with 807, 790 and 769 the next three all have international caps already (bairstow, joyce and samit) then more youngsters, d'oliveira and duckett
[url]http://stats.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/engine/records/bowling/most_wickets_career.html?class=4;host=1;id=2016;type=season[/url] ([url]http://stats.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2016/engine/records/bowling/most_wickets_career.html?class=4;host=1;id=2016;type=season[/url])
and this is bowling (most wickets) where its napier topping the charts with jamie porter next then jimmy ans woakes
so id say we have plenty of batting talent comiong through but where are the next bowlers going to be? it seems to be the same old bowlers doing all the damage with the odd exception such as jake ball and tom curran
All this just proves how excellent Essex are..... ;)
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What happened to the Overton brothers? Have they dropped of the boil a bit?
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Dan Lawrence has got to be nailed on for the future England squad surely? Looks in a different league at the U19 world cup and has scored some decent runs already in the CC
I said '"this kid will play for England'" after seeing him hit about ten balls in the nets. So I hope I'm proved right.
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He's a chucker
Now this is a bit spooky!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36434460 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36434460)
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Now this is a bit spooky!
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36434460[/url] ([url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36434460[/url])
Dunno why anyone would have thought otherwise.. Just look at his action..
Sadly, any spinner in the 'county' set up is actively being taught to chuck.. Again, watch them all and they are all at it.. The standard of coaching must be awful
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just a shame it didnt happen last week before he helped win the game.
not surprised though his action looked dodgy
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The Telegraph have come up with the below list...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2016/07/26/englands-10-rising-stars-the-next-generation-ready-to-break-thro/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2016/07/26/englands-10-rising-stars-the-next-generation-ready-to-break-thro/)
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lancashire have two, haseeb hammed very highly rated he is, and anyone see Lancashire v derby last night? saquib mahmood has some serious wheels....
Ben Duckett caught the eye recently and I read Flower says both him and Bell Drummond are cast iron certainties for senior spots.
Duckett I would like to see come thru, I think there are still spots going forward in the batting for England...
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lancashire have two, haseeb hammed very highly rated he is, and anyone see Lancashire v derby last night? saquib mahmood has some serious wheels....
Ben Duckett caught the eye recently and I read Flower says both him and Bell Drummond are cast iron certainties for senior spots.
Duckett I would like to see come thru, I think there are still spots going forward in the batting for England...
Mahmood has put on some serious pace over the past two seasons. I faced him in nets a couple of years ago and he was a handful then.
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Mahmood has put on some serious pace over the past two seasons. I faced him in nets a couple of years ago and he was a handful then.
it's saj mahmood's brother or cousin right?
glenn chapel at lancs will be key I would think if he is going to develop properly.......
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Saw duckett play at cheltenham for the lions last week looked a very good prospect
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it's saj mahmood's brother or cousin right?
glenn chapel at lancs will be key I would think if he is going to develop properly.......
There is also a young leggie called Matty Parkinson who is only 19 and a very good keeper/batsman called George Lavelle. He is only 16 but thought very highly of.
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Dunno why anyone would have thought otherwise.. Just look at his action..
Sadly, any spinner in the 'county' set up is actively being taught to chuck.. Again, watch them all and they are all at it.. The standard of coaching must be awful
Don't, watched a u11 game last year, half of the didn't kow where to stand!
We had Sussex coaches teaching them.....fair to say we now coach them and Tue improvement is astronomical.
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Ben Foakes showing how good a keeper he is there against Middlesex, with some added Tom Curran to boot