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Companies => Off-the-shelf companies => Kookaburra => Topic started by: WalkingWicket37 on July 30, 2016, 10:19:36 PM

Title: A very dead ghost
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on July 30, 2016, 10:19:36 PM
Got a message from a teammate today saying that his new bat (received last Wednesday) had broken, with the accompanying image. He will be contacting the retailer tomorrow to see about a replacement.

(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/IMG-20160730-WA0006_zpsf85cwii8.jpg) (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/CPye061194/media/IMG-20160730-WA0006_zpsf85cwii8.jpg.html)

The bat was purched from a reputable online retailer and he had paid for a knocking in service. He then knocked it in additionally himself and I gave it a bit of mallet loving so it was definitely prepared.

I took a few additional pictures myself when I got back to the ground, which I thought I'd share. I'd be interested to hear peoples opinions on the breakage (and what they think caused it).

(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/20160730_204951_zpsl6wkolfv.jpg) (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/CPye061194/media/20160730_204951_zpsl6wkolfv.jpg.html)

(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/20160730_204956_zpsoydbbgg5.jpg) (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/CPye061194/media/20160730_204956_zpsoydbbgg5.jpg.html)

(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/20160730_210410_zps3yzehput.jpg) (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/CPye061194/media/20160730_210410_zps3yzehput.jpg.html)

Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: dcullen8 on July 30, 2016, 10:42:39 PM
Bit of edge tape should sort that out..
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: Bats_Galore on July 30, 2016, 10:54:35 PM
Looks like storm damage in the last picture to me.
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: cragnasty on July 31, 2016, 12:37:33 AM
Yikes. Seen 2 kooks break in recent weeks.1 similar to this. Bought from a well known ldn based retailer
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: sarg on July 31, 2016, 01:17:04 AM
Looks like storm damage in the last picture to me.

It's so subtle those markings that on a production line it's easy to miss I'm guessing.

There is a failure rate during warranty calculated into the price so he'll get a replacement.

Interesting the owner managed to prep it in 4 days. World record🤐. Regardless it is nothing to do with a fault like that one.

At least we know ghosts can be killed😚

Thanks for sharing the pics @WalkingWicket37.
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: brokenbat on July 31, 2016, 01:56:15 AM
storm damage seems to be the best guess.. i saw the same thing happen to another Ghost. that was also an online purchase, and the retailer was able to send over a new one.
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on July 31, 2016, 02:48:51 AM
Interesting the owner managed to prep it in 4 days. World record🤐.

The bat was purched from a reputable online retailer and he had paid for a knocking in service. He then knocked it in additionally himself and I gave it a bit of mallet loving so it was definitely prepared.
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: Thesmiff on July 31, 2016, 07:19:48 AM
Seen a few bats go like this recently and every single one has gone in the same place, just under the stickers. Either this 'storm damage' is easier to spot than makers let on and they can mask it with stickers or , which I actually believe to the case, the splice is weakening the already damaged areas. Just find it odd that I've seen 5 from different brands all go in the exact same place recently, when historically you'd rarely seen one split in two like that
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: ManHOOS on July 31, 2016, 07:34:33 AM
Over dried willow maybe ? Looks so dry
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: Thesmiff on July 31, 2016, 07:47:04 AM
That's a good point is everything now storm damage as we had a lesson on it a year ago so we like to feel clever or is big bat fashion leading to drier willow more prone to breaking
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: hell4leather cricket on July 31, 2016, 08:01:49 AM
Def storm damage
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: smilley792 on July 31, 2016, 08:12:50 AM
It's dry. I just dont think it would snap there and like that due to dryness.

Storm damage.
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: L21 on July 31, 2016, 11:37:30 AM
Seems to be a theme with Kookaburra's

Carberry had one go like that in the Ashes a few years back and others have had similar more recently.

So it isn't just a recent thing.

Is it just Kooks?
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on July 31, 2016, 12:32:24 PM
Scott Borthwick's Kahuna has just done the exact same thing live on Sky Sports
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: pumakid on July 31, 2016, 03:13:41 PM
A lad at our club had an Onyx go in exactly the same place a few weeks back. Also a very new stick which had only been used a handful of times. Will try and find some pics later
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: Woodyspin on August 01, 2016, 05:51:44 AM
I friends bat a few years ago. This was confirmed as very very dry after he admitted to keeping it near the airing cupboard!!!

(http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r659/FRCCWoody/FB_IMG_1470030451071_zps2oum71nn.jpg)
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: Northern monkey on August 01, 2016, 06:36:24 AM
Weird how they go near the spline bottom

Must admit, it's only the past coupla years I've ever seen this happen
It can't be a good thing letting bats dry out like this, either artificially, or whilst a cleft, before the handles been fit
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: Wickets-then-runs on August 01, 2016, 07:18:55 AM
I wonder if there is a relationship between the bats breaking near the point of the handle "V" and this point bearing most of the pressure when a handle is fitted? Maybe the handle goes a bit too far into the V and creates a weakness at that point?
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: ppccopener on August 01, 2016, 07:47:20 AM
I wonder if there is a relationship between the bats breaking near the point of the handle "V" and this point bearing most of the pressure when a handle is fitted? Maybe the handle goes a bit too far into the V and creates a weakness at that point?

maybe.....ive had one go like this earlier but looking at the back of the bat, it was storm damaged...and this was handpicked by a retailer.

got to be honest, and ive posted this before, I cant be alone the size of bats these days compared to what they were, it's impossible for them all to be the limited large/light type willow, so the only way to get them so big at 2lb 9 or 10 is to press them less and let them dry out.

I don't think personally we should expect modern bats with large profiles to last very long. Just my opinion and i'm not an expert by any means....

compare a bat made 10 years ago in profile and todays bats... ive got a couple with massive edges and spine that weight the same as old bats but are half the size....
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on August 01, 2016, 08:25:58 AM
Very dry willow constant 40mm edge bats with little concaving at 2.10 and lower dressed weights means very dry willow
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: jamferg on August 01, 2016, 08:47:24 AM
Player in our team had two LB kooks break in succession . Both from a London based retailer.. The beauty of hand picking bats!
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: Seniorplayer on August 01, 2016, 09:08:12 AM
The willow looks very dry...
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: Mpt7 on August 01, 2016, 10:12:48 AM
what could this come back as!!!...
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: Vitas Cricket on August 01, 2016, 10:13:39 AM

I don't think personally we should expect modern bats with large profiles to last very long. Just my opinion and i'm not an expert by any means....


D&P have a large profiled lightweight bat in their range. It comes with a huge unmissable warning label stating it has been built for performance not durability. If you expect your purchase to last a long time, please buy something else in our range, or words to that effect.
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: Calzehbhoy on August 01, 2016, 11:52:36 AM
D&P have a large profiled lightweight bat in their range. It comes with a huge unmissable warning label stating it has been built for performance not durability. If you expect your purchase to last a long time, please buy something else in our range, or words to that effect.

No matter which D&P you buy the handle/shoulder will break anyway! Don't think I've ever seen one of these last longer than a season.
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on August 01, 2016, 12:04:27 PM
No matter which D&P you buy the handle/shoulder will break anyway! Don't think I've ever seen one of these last longer than a season.

SSlanderous  ;)
Title: Re: A very dead ghost
Post by: Batbuddy99 on August 01, 2016, 02:10:03 PM
No matter which D&P you buy the handle/shoulder will break anyway! Don't think I've ever seen one of these last longer than a season.
A teammate of mine has had his for 3 or 4 years now!