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Title: Moving clubs
Post by: HallamKeeper on September 19, 2016, 12:01:37 PM
Couldn't really see the appropriate section to post this so settled on this.

I have been at the same club for 5 seasons and I am moving on for a change of scenery. I wondered what the correct etiquette would be for this?

I was thinking going old school and sending a letter to the chairman then posting a note on our Facebook group.

Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: iand123 on September 19, 2016, 12:08:52 PM
Speak to face to face with someone (skipper, chairman, committee member) would be my advice, personally i would stay away from discussing these things via facebook, whats app etc
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: Seniorplayer on September 19, 2016, 12:16:10 PM
Yes send a letter to the chairman to read to others at the committee  meeting or AGM tell him your reasons so he knows there's no bad feeling always where possible leave on good terms following the appropriate channels you never know you want to rejoin at a later date
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: Mpt7 on September 19, 2016, 12:28:52 PM
letter to chairman + conversation with your captain

avoid facebook etc - your mates will know you're considering leave anyway but better to be clear so no one can re-write the story after you have gone :-D
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: GoodLeave on September 19, 2016, 02:32:29 PM
Fake your own death.

Or... If you can meet someone official, do it face to face be it captain or chairman. If not, letter/phone call etc are fine. Would avoid social media, that way if anyone feels aggrieved, they can't respond with anything that could sour the relationship.
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: Buzz on September 19, 2016, 02:57:38 PM
To be honest I would do nothing now and keep your options open.
Try a couple of clubs over the winter and see how they go and see what you want to do in April.
At that point you can speak to the Chairman and suggest you won't be playing.
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: HallamKeeper on September 19, 2016, 03:54:50 PM
We have our end of season presentation in November so I was going to leave it until a week or two after that anyway.

I'm not a fan of social media, tone of voice can be misunderstood and reacted to in an unhelpful way.

Thanks for your advice. I'd like to move on in a decent way and it is possible one day I would return to the club. The main reason I like cricket is the decency most people have which is fast disappearing in many others aspects of life.
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 19, 2016, 05:24:12 PM
I'm still umming and ahhing about moving myself. I was adamant (or should that be adament?) I was going, but when I look back over the last 11 years it's only one bellend has ruined this last year for me.

Back story time - with two games left I was dropped from the 2nd XI to the third, despite being the better of the two spinners who had played (statistically, experience of that level and to anyone who was asked, including the other guy!) I'd torn my thigh taking a catch the week before anyway,  so declared myself unavailable for the rest of the season. A couple of cuginas then started spouting off that I'd had a tantrum and needed to grow up (without knowing the facts...) Fast forward to now, I've heard through other players there is apparently bad feeling about the way I behaved. I'd love to know who this came from, and why nobody tried contacting me (the "chairman of selectors" went out of his way to avoid speaking to me, in fact!)

I'll play indoor cricket as normal (I have a game tonight) but I'm more than likely to have half an eye on other clubs over the winter.
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: Seniorplayer on September 19, 2016, 06:11:56 PM
Cam it  can't be any fun  playing for a club and having those  comments from guys who don't have all the facts think I would move on
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 19, 2016, 09:22:26 PM
Well I found out who started the rumour I'd left, and other than a couple of piss taking comments about it everything was fine.
Most interesting part will be nets after Christmas when I see the s**t stirer for the first time...
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: Stuey on September 19, 2016, 09:47:02 PM
Reckon he's jealous of your kit  ;)
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: edge on September 19, 2016, 09:48:46 PM
To be honest I would do nothing now and keep your options open.
Try a couple of clubs over the winter and see how they go and see what you want to do in April.
At that point you can speak to the Chairman and suggest you won't be playing.
Definitely agree, this is what I'll be doing over the winter. You never know, you might go to nets with another club and realise you can't stand them and want to go back!
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: Calzehbhoy on September 19, 2016, 09:58:16 PM
Sounds like a few of us in the same boat. I'm looking to go to nets with a new team this winter and seeing how I get on. I've had enough of the travelling to away games in the league we play in at the moment. End up spending 60-90 mins each way up and down the A1 to games and with the boy on the way I don't want to be getting home at 8:30-9 from some games, so it's either refuse to play away from home (not sure how well that will go down) or look at playing for the club in the town I live in.

On the plus side, they have just been promoted back to the Orem of the Saracens Herts league so the facilities are pretty good!

Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: Seniorplayer on September 20, 2016, 08:25:34 AM
Sounds like a few of us in the same boat. I'm looking to go to nets with a new team this winter and see how I get on. I've had enough of the travelling to away games in the league we play in at the moment. End up spending 60-90 mins each way up and spent the A1 to games and with the boy on the way I don't want to be getting home at 8:30-9 from some games so it's either refuse to play away from home (not sure how well that will go down) or look at playing for the club in the town I love in. On the plus side, they have just been promoted back to the Orem of the Saracens Herts league so the facilities are pretty good!

Travelling  20 miles to an home match and 30 miles plus to away games That's why I left the club where I enjoyed playing at the end of last season annual subs paid and  after 5 matches with the new club  I was back at my old club who i had left on good terms with the knowledge i could return
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: Churchy1989 on September 20, 2016, 12:22:16 PM
I don't think i would be able to move to a different (League) club.

I've been at the club longer than the furniture!!

But, if you hate cricket because of the club, i would then look to leave.
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: HallamKeeper on September 20, 2016, 02:50:39 PM
My main reason for leaving is that the club want to be successful but refuse to do anything about it. I have tried for a couple of seasons to instil some basic standards but it seems I have failed. I want to be part of a team who try to win (within the spirit of the game) without the same simple mistakes and bad habits costing us over and over again. The old definition of madness, expecting a different result.
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: Seniorplayer on September 20, 2016, 03:18:33 PM
My main reason for leaving is that the club want to be successful but refuse to do anything about it. I have tried for a couple of seasons to instil some basic standards but it seems I have failed. I want to be part of a team who try to win (within the spirit of the game) without the same simple mistakes and bad habits costing us over and over again. The old definition of madness, expecting a different result.

I think what you are trying to achieve is going to be difficult at ameture level you may be more successfull at a club with a pro.
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: HallamKeeper on September 20, 2016, 03:30:27 PM
The club I'm thinking of going to is a lot more organised, the first team (which I won't get near) is very good so I'm hoping that means the good habits are passed down. It has a great junior set up too so I imagine they try to do the right things in all the teams to help the juniors prepare for higher level cricket.
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: smilley792 on September 20, 2016, 04:03:43 PM
Hi jack

I presume I know where your going (via midweek association), and good luck for future endeavours. A amateurs competitive career is not a long one and as your paying for the privelage you should have a shot to do and achieve what you want to.

I may get to play against you or even with you(i play for the Lms team out of the 3rds/4ths ground)


As for the team your leaving, it will be hard time for them, as I believe Pete has stepped down as skipper too.
Hopefully someone steps up and it continues for many years on as its one of my favourite places and clubs to play against, even if I'm rarely successful there.

And this brings me to your issues and concerns there, having played against them for a few years I do get what your saying, and I believe it may be down to the size of your ground.
The tiny nature gives you so much value for shots that you don't have to take risks, yet every time we play there, your sides batting seems to be getting more reckless. Odd exceptions iexcluded.

Yet you will know from both our 1st t20 game, and 2nds Saturday game, the teams "proper" batsmen top scored in both games.

Again good luck in the future mate. and see you around.
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: HallamKeeper on September 22, 2016, 12:42:57 PM
That is quite interesting, thanks for that.

I would class myself as more of a proper batsman but sometimes you get stuck with a slow partner which makes you go a bit more aggressively. I think the size of the ground also contributes to the poor fielding. A larger ground certainly gives you opportunities to save runs. It is very much 1 or 4 at Calver. I do fear for the immediate future of the club as a few more have followed me in leaving. I really hope that isn't the case!

Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: specialistmidoff on November 12, 2016, 01:46:04 PM
Welcome to Hallam Jack, see you in the new year for nets!
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: uknsaunders on November 12, 2016, 02:11:42 PM
Couldn't really see the appropriate section to post this so settled on this.

I have been at the same club for 5 seasons and I am moving on for a change of scenery. I wondered what the correct etiquette would be for this?

I was thinking going old school and sending a letter to the chairman then posting a note on our Facebook group.

You pay subs for one year. It's not a contract you have to cancel. You don't have to say or do anything. It really depends on your relationship with the club and how you want to leave things. As others have mentioned,  put the feelers out and net with a few clubs and make a final decision next spring. No need to rush things,  say something if you want to when you are ready.
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: Northern monkey on November 12, 2016, 02:36:49 PM
In the same position myself at the moment
I've had three seasons at my current club, but with a new captain this year and quite a few new players, the whole club dynamic has changed, not for the good!
I was thinking about calling it a day, as I'm getting on a bit now and really can't be bothered with the hassle of it all.
I've got three under five year olds, and feel guilty enough about spending a day chasing a cricket ball around
But,
The missus wants me to carry on playing, the kids love watching, and a chat to jblowe and Pete Hosk have renewed my enthusiasm to play, and hopefully should see me playing at a new club next year.
Really looking forward to a new club and a new challenge.
Roll on 2017 season
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: petehosk on November 12, 2016, 03:18:00 PM
In the same position myself at the moment
I've had three seasons at my current club, but with a new captain this year and quite a few new players, the whole club dynamic has changed, not for the good!
I was thinking about calling it a day, as I'm getting on a bit now and really can't be bothered with the hassle of it all.
I've got three under five year olds, and feel guilty enough about spending a day chasing a cricket ball around
But,
The missus wants me to carry on playing, the kids love watching, and a chat to jblowe and Pete Hosk have renewed my enthusiasm to play, and hopefully should see me playing at a new club next year.
Really looking forward to a new club and a new challenge.
Roll on 2017 season

Indeed mate - plus remember that the club has 12 weeks of coaching U-7 and U-9 each season so they can start to actually join in every Friday evening with the other kids too. Good way of getting the kids involved as there are usually 50+ kids! Plus the parents stay and often have a Friday evening drink or two from the bar and then feed the kids as there is a BBQ too. Makes perfect sense ;)
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: TGB1997 on November 15, 2016, 09:50:28 AM
I moved clubs a couple of seasons ago (I'll admit it was a last minute decision) and did it the correct way by informing the club via an email thanking them for all the help in my development before signing the paper work on my end to transfer my registration. It took a few days due to some small technical issues to transfer the registration. In those two years that I moved back to my first club I played against my old club 5 times, I got on with some and others I didn't its just the way it is in sport.
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: Leno on November 16, 2016, 03:58:56 PM
I moved clubs this year and it made me a lot more excited for the season again and I had such a fun season
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: jblowe on November 16, 2016, 05:32:24 PM
For the 2015 season I moved from the club I founded, after both the club's first and second teams won the league.  I spent 2014 playing between both sides, just making up the numbers and not really getting a game in either. I went from winning division one to the the bottom side in division 10 in the 2015 season. The club I joined ran three sides, the first in division 1, the seconds in 5 and the thirds in 10. As I'm knocking on a bit, I made it clear to them that I wanted to play in the 3rd team. I really enjoyed it in the thirds, the cricket was a lot easier and the other players were very welcoming. I also had a good season with bat and ball. The biggest problem was with the first team, who constantly hassled me to play in the seconds. In August I finally gave in and turned out for the seconds. I didn't get a bowl and was down to bat at number 9, but I never faced a ball. On the same day the first team played my former club and it turn nasty, with my new club cheating my old club.  I returned to the thirds the following week, but it was very awkward, my team where ok with me but everyone else in the club made me feel unwelcome. At the end of the season I left.

Last year I played for another team in the lowest division, but didn't really enjoy it. Even though I took wickets I only got a limited chance to bowl.  The longer the season went on the less I wanted to be there.

I am hoping 2017 will be the year of the HOSK...

Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: edge on November 16, 2016, 05:35:18 PM
Moving clubs for next year is making me even more keen for winter nets than usual! Looking forward to a fresh start and some new challenges.
Title: Re: Moving clubs
Post by: HallamKeeper on November 16, 2016, 06:18:25 PM
I am the same, I am focussing on losing weight and getting fitter specifically for the 1st net with my new club. Really exciting thinking about learning how to keep to a whole new set of bowlers.