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Title: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: langer17 on January 09, 2017, 01:29:24 PM
Saw this video on instagram and looks like Steve Smiths bats have a hard life haha

https://www.instagram.com/p/BPCFop3D3qg/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BPCFop3D3qg/)
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: lexx on January 09, 2017, 01:31:28 PM
Love the way he just chucks them down!
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: Churchy1989 on January 09, 2017, 01:37:08 PM
Love the way he just chucks them down!
Arrogant (No Swearing Please)
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: northernboy1987 on January 09, 2017, 01:44:39 PM
Still baffles me how he scores so many runs with that technique?!
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: Churchy1989 on January 09, 2017, 01:58:26 PM
Still baffles me how he scores so many runs with that technique?!

I say that with many people i bowl against....

Apparently is it doesnt matter about technique, just about the runs!
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: ppccopener on January 09, 2017, 02:01:29 PM
shocking net

but the bloke scores bucketloads of runs..... :)

us ameteurs need the basics of a sound technique to help us out, these blokes don't.

Graeme Smith was similar, looked awful, scored loads especially when he played us !
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: Blank Bats on January 09, 2017, 02:04:02 PM
Ultimately it's hand eye coordination

See ball, hit ball.
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: ppccopener on January 09, 2017, 02:08:12 PM
Ultimately it's hand eye coordination

See ball, hit ball.

yep. and the pro's have that in spades.

look back to some of the shots KP played at his peak, it's just remarkable talent.

for the rest of us, that's you @Churchy1989 too it's off to more nets and trying to keep the bat straight/elbow up/side on/whatever takes your fancy

 :)
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: Buzz on January 09, 2017, 02:31:09 PM
The reason KP still does well even though he is effectively a part time cricketer is because he has excellent basic technique and really understands his game. On top of his hand eye coordination
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: Churchy1989 on January 09, 2017, 06:58:13 PM
Did give the bat some love at the end in fairness

Not sure I'd fancy facing balls so quick in succession ;) :)

You should try it with tennis balls and a tennis racket, feeder is half way down the crease, supposedly improves reactions, of just a laugh for the feeder peppering you !
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: InternalTraining on January 09, 2017, 07:10:32 PM
Saw the video...maybe he doesn't like the bats.
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: Alvaro on January 09, 2017, 07:36:21 PM
If you look after your tools, they'll look after you.
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: sctyd on January 09, 2017, 08:27:27 PM
People assume that because his technique is different that it is flawed and that he is ultimately relying on hand-eye coordination.

Not entirely true. He has a good trigger movement that gets him into a strong, balanced position as the ball leaves the hand. It allows him to come forward and go back with ease and he is also a 360 player with no discernible weakness. He drives, cuts, pulls and glances extremely well.

The text-book technique isn't the only way to bat. Ultimately it's about being comfortable, balanced at the crease and knowing your game.
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: langer17 on January 09, 2017, 09:03:44 PM
Here's a better one for his technique. He always hits the ball right under his eyes which means he gets over the top of the ball:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84PvVv3b5dE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84PvVv3b5dE)

In the initial video he looks to be preparing for One day or T-20 cricket.

Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: brokenbat on January 09, 2017, 09:05:53 PM
People assume that because his technique is different that it is flawed and that he is ultimately relying on hand-eye coordination.

Not entirely true. He has a good trigger movement that gets him into a strong, balanced position as the ball leaves the hand. It allows him to come forward and go back with ease and he is also a 360 player with no discernible weakness. He drives, cuts, pulls and glances extremely well.

The text-book technique isn't the only way to bat. Ultimately it's about being comfortable, balanced at the crease and knowing your game.

And his head and weight go into the ball...even on back foot drives and even though he has a rigid front knee
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: langer17 on January 09, 2017, 09:11:42 PM
Found this one too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YgNi4hfkNY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YgNi4hfkNY)
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: Calzehbhoy on January 09, 2017, 10:22:14 PM
Just on his technique, sure there was at least 3/4 nick behind that were wide outside off in that video?
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: Woodyspin on January 09, 2017, 10:24:35 PM
Im sure there wasnt any shots which looked technically correct either
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: Buzz on January 09, 2017, 10:45:36 PM
I have watched loads of steve smith batting on YouTube.

All I see is him smashing the ball around.

I have no idea how he does it

What I would say is that he plays a lot on flat pitches. But he has scored runs all round the world.

To say he has no technical flaws is a little disingenuous, he really stuggles when the ball moves sideways.
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: csnew on January 09, 2017, 11:08:57 PM
Which batsmen doesn't struggle with the moving ball?
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on January 09, 2017, 11:10:45 PM
Which batsmen doesn't struggle with the moving ball?

Chris Martin, he played the exact same way be it seaming, swinging, turning square or just going straight!
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: Nmcgee on January 09, 2017, 11:39:26 PM
Looks like Gav had to give them a tidy up.

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h243/nwillia/IMG_1507_zpsiduz6nk9.jpg) (http://s66.photobucket.com/user/nwillia/media/IMG_1507_zpsiduz6nk9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: brokenbat on January 10, 2017, 01:18:40 AM
I have watched loads of steve smith batting on YouTube.

All I see is him smashing the ball around.

I have no idea how he does it

What I would say is that he plays a lot on flat pitches. But he has scored runs all round the world.

To say he has no technical flaws is a little disingenuous, he really stuggles when the ball moves sideways.

Secrets to his success  (imo)..

1. Still head
2. Contact mostly under his eyes - this is why his timing is good and why he can cream "front foot" drives even if his weight appears to be on his back foot
3. Head generally goes through the ball
4. Knows his off stump
5. Keeps his head still enough and going forward enough to never miss anything on his pads
6. Made a deal with the devil - was promised loads of runs for the small price of looking absolutely atrocious while batting
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: langer17 on January 10, 2017, 02:49:54 AM
I think more of us should adopt his approach, I mean it seems to work pretty well. Both him and Warner don't have the greatest of techniques, but what they have is very effective.
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: lazza32 on January 10, 2017, 04:49:28 AM
The english said Bradmans technique wasn't good enough to get runs on english wickets but we all know what happened when he landed on there shores.
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: Buzz on January 10, 2017, 06:42:14 AM
Secrets to his success  (imo)..

1. Still head
2. Contact mostly under his eyes - this is why his timing is good and why he can cream "front foot" drives even if his weight appears to be on his back foot
3. Head generally goes through the ball
4. Knows his off stump
5. Keeps his head still enough and going forward enough to never miss anything on his pads
6. Made a deal with the devil - was promised loads of runs for the small price of looking absolutely atrocious while batting

1. Not that still, he moves all over the place, but his eyes are level
2. Absolutely. And this is vital
3. Yes too.
4. He must do!
5. Same as 2 and 3
6. Not sure, he works very hard at his game.

My view is he knows his game really well and is mentally in a good place with his batting.

Which batsmen doesn't struggle with the moving ball?
Loads play it well. It isn't that hard!
Might be a bit different at 90 + mph mind!
Title: Re: Steve Smith treats his bats with contempt
Post by: Alvaro on January 10, 2017, 12:57:48 PM
The english said Bradmans technique wasn't good enough to get runs on english wickets but we all know what happened when he landed on there shores.

Is that before or after no one was allowed to bowl short at him?