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General Cricket => Your Cricket => Topic started by: mattcoll12491 on January 20, 2017, 06:28:57 PM
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Hi all,
We've asked an Aussie lad to come and play for us this coming season. We've queried with the ECB what visa he needs to allow him to play for our club and they have advised that because he has played Tasmania Under 19s in 2013 he is not suitable to come over on a Youth mobility visa or a standard visitors visa and they also said that he would not be eligible for a Tier 5 (Creative and Sporting) Visa.
Is anyone else trying to bring over an overseas this year and encountered this issue? As the Home office have tightened the rules up over the past year.Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Matt
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Rules have been tightened this year. Find someone uk based.
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Rules have been tightened this year. Find someone uk based.
Yeah we've got a UK based 'pro' that the club is playing. But our league permits one player without a permanent UK residency, and as we struggled this year we're trying to use everything we can.
If we can't get him over, we can't.
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Get a South African! There all itching for a kolpak. I hear de villiers is available.
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We usually look for duel passport holders if we can. If not get them on a 6month travel visa and pay them cash 😉
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We usually look for duel passport holders if we can. If not get them on a 6month travel visa and pay them cash 😉
And tell them not to bring any kit, otherwise they'll be on the next flight home.
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Haha! Yeah, get them to post the kit separately!
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We usually look for duel passport holders if we can. If not get them on a 6month travel visa and pay them cash 😉
£10,000 fine
Home office have tightened up a lot
look into the changes as you can no longer bring in overseas on the visas that have been used before
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Clubs will find it difficult to bring anyone over. I imagine this will lead to them paying the better uk based players? Could be lots of players changing clubs for £££
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anyone got any reference for this? It's very relevant our way
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Clubs will find it difficult to bring anyone over. I imagine this will lead to them paying the better uk based players? Could be lots of players changing clubs for £££
Not neccesarily true just means clubs and players can't lie to the Home Office. It'll clear out cash in hand merchants and players who are pretending to be way better than they are.
They'll be nothing stopping a club signing an 18 year old looking for experience or an extremely talented and experienced coach who will be employed properly.
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The ECB distributed this to most of the league's.
http://www.southernpremierleague.com/overseas-players-2017-ecb-advice/ (http://www.southernpremierleague.com/overseas-players-2017-ecb-advice/)
There are a few more grey areas than the bullet points on this link , depends how risk averse your chairman is .
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Not neccesarily true just means clubs and players can't lie to the Home Office. It'll clear out cash in hand merchants and players who are pretending to be way better than they are.
They'll be nothing stopping a club signing an 18 year old looking for experience or an extremely talented and experienced coach who will be employed properly.
If the 18 year old has played any rep cricket even at u18 level they won't be able to come over I believe
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If the 18 year old has played any rep cricket even at u18 level they won't be able to come over I believe
They can come over on the player pathway, but it's likely you would need to run this past the home office on a case by case basis...thats how I read it.
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If the 18 year old has played any rep cricket even at u18 level they won't be able to come over I believe
Of course they can, just needs a bit of care and attention in the application to make sure the correct visa is got and adhered to, not just come over on the easiest one and not tell the government whats going on.
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http://www.middlesexccl.com/LeagueNotices/LeagueNotices.htm (http://www.middlesexccl.com/LeagueNotices/LeagueNotices.htm)
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The way I'm understanding this it looks like it will be difficult to find someone who is able to come over and play
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The way I'm understanding this it looks like it will be difficult to find someone who is able to come over and play
That's how I see it too, the Essex league are changing their overseas registration form in line with ECB guidelines who have taken advice from the home office. I assume all league's will follow suit. There are grey areas just depends how near you want to flirt with them and how comfortable your chairman is with wearing a 20k fine. Assuming the HO acts like the HMRC , any hint of a transgression and you'll be found guilty, then have to prove your innocence . The player pathway seems to offer a route, but I'm guessing the application isn't straight forward.
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Hi all,
We've asked an Aussie lad to come and play for us this coming season. We've queried with the ECB what visa he needs to allow him to play for our club and they have advised that because he has played Tasmania Under 19s in 2013 he is not suitable to come over on a Youth mobility visa or a standard visitors visa and they also said that he would not be eligible for a Tier 5 (Creative and Sporting) Visa.
Is anyone else trying to bring over an overseas this year and encountered this issue? As the Home office have tightened the rules up over the past year.Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Matt
Are you getting him via an agency? Surely this is the kind of thing they would be able to sort out and advise on, I can't think of much else they need to do, especially something as important as this.
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Are you getting him via an agency? Surely this is the kind of thing they would be able to sort out and advise on, I can't think of much else they need to do, especially something as important as this.
As I understand it, he could come on a player pathway visa , but this would need approval from the home office not the ecb.
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*Player “Pathway” definition: A player may be considered to be on a “Pathway” and therefore
classified as a “Professional Sportsperson”, if that person has played cricket above U17 at state/
province/ territory level (paid or unpaid) in any country.
I.e. Tier 5 visa
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Plenty of OSA's available that have qualify an ancestral visa or that have a UK passport, are the former group affected by the new rulings, that's the route we've tended to follow before.
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A non EEA citizen would not need permission if holding an ancestral visa, so would be Ok. But I'm not the home office or a lawyer, just my interpretation.
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Are clubs really that desperate to being in overseas? Can they really not just play with club players ?
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Are clubs really that desperate to being in overseas? Can they really not just play with "pay the "better" club players ?
With a slight tweak to your post I imagine the "solution" will be worked out...
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With a slight tweak to your post I imagine the "solution" will be worked out...
Good edit that