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Overseas amateur- Visa issues
« on: January 20, 2017, 06:28:57 PM »

Hi all,

We've asked an Aussie lad to come and play for us this coming season. We've queried with the ECB  what visa he needs to allow him to play for our club and they have advised that because he has played Tasmania Under 19s in 2013 he is not suitable to come over on a Youth mobility visa or a standard visitors visa and they also said that he would not be eligible for a Tier 5 (Creative and Sporting) Visa.

Is anyone else trying to bring over an overseas this year and encountered this issue? As the Home office have tightened the rules up over the past year.Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Matt

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Re: Overseas amateur- Visa issues
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2017, 06:44:47 PM »

Rules have been tightened this year. Find someone uk based.
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Re: Overseas amateur- Visa issues
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2017, 06:54:45 PM »

Rules have been tightened this year. Find someone uk based.

Yeah we've got a UK based 'pro' that the club is playing. But our league permits one player without a permanent UK residency, and as we struggled this year we're trying to use everything we can.

If we can't get him over, we can't.
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Re: Overseas amateur- Visa issues
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2017, 07:15:35 PM »

Get a South African! There all itching for a kolpak. I hear de villiers is available.
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Re: Overseas amateur- Visa issues
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2017, 07:20:58 PM »

We usually look for duel passport holders if we can. If not get them on a 6month travel visa and pay them cash 😉
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Re: Overseas amateur- Visa issues
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2017, 08:57:13 PM »

We usually look for duel passport holders if we can. If not get them on a 6month travel visa and pay them cash 😉
And tell them not to bring any kit, otherwise they'll be on the next flight home.
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Re: Overseas amateur- Visa issues
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2017, 09:04:30 PM »

Haha! Yeah, get them to post the kit separately!
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Re: Overseas amateur- Visa issues
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2017, 09:57:44 PM »

We usually look for duel passport holders if we can. If not get them on a 6month travel visa and pay them cash 😉

£10,000 fine

Home office have tightened up a lot

look into the changes as you can no longer bring in overseas on the visas that have been used before
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Re: Overseas amateur- Visa issues
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2017, 11:03:17 PM »

Clubs will find it difficult to bring anyone over. I imagine this will lead to them paying the better uk based players? Could be lots of players changing clubs for £££
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Re: Overseas amateur- Visa issues
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2017, 12:04:21 PM »

anyone got any reference for this? It's very relevant our way
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Re: Overseas amateur- Visa issues
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2017, 12:59:12 PM »

Clubs will find it difficult to bring anyone over. I imagine this will lead to them paying the better uk based players? Could be lots of players changing clubs for £££

Not neccesarily true just means clubs and players can't lie to the Home Office. It'll clear out cash in hand merchants and players who are pretending to be way better than they are.

They'll be nothing stopping a club signing an 18 year old looking for experience or an extremely talented and experienced coach who will be employed properly.
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Re: Overseas amateur- Visa issues
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2017, 01:43:15 PM »

The ECB distributed this to most of the league's.
http://www.southernpremierleague.com/overseas-players-2017-ecb-advice/
There are a few more grey areas than the bullet points on this link , depends how risk averse your chairman is .
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Re: Overseas amateur- Visa issues
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2017, 05:04:58 PM »

Not neccesarily true just means clubs and players can't lie to the Home Office. It'll clear out cash in hand merchants and players who are pretending to be way better than they are.

They'll be nothing stopping a club signing an 18 year old looking for experience or an extremely talented and experienced coach who will be employed properly.

If the 18 year old has played any rep cricket even at u18 level they won't be able to come over I believe
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Re: Overseas amateur- Visa issues
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2017, 05:31:03 PM »

If the 18 year old has played any rep cricket even at u18 level they won't be able to come over I believe
They can come over on the player pathway, but it's likely you would need to run this past the home office on a case by case basis...thats how I read it.
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Re: Overseas amateur- Visa issues
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2017, 07:09:56 PM »

If the 18 year old has played any rep cricket even at u18 level they won't be able to come over I believe

Of course they can, just needs a bit of care and attention in the application to make sure the correct visa is got and adhered to, not just come over on the easiest one and not tell the government whats going on.
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