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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: felix on February 10, 2017, 07:06:14 PM

Title: Is this terminal?
Post by: felix on February 10, 2017, 07:06:14 PM
Just started refurbing my Aldred. Removed the sticker on the back and found this....

(http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah185/Malcburt/image_zpsjyru13ds.jpg) (http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/Malcburt/media/image_zpsjyru13ds.jpg.html)

I can't decide how worried I should be about it. It seems like a very shallow crack (hard to see on the photo), but surely a very nasty place for this to happen to my inexpert eye. Any thoughts?

On the plus side, the anti scuff left behind loads of glue but white spirit took it off excellently.
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: Ryan on February 10, 2017, 07:12:52 PM
Nothing to worry about.  It's just when the band saw has cut the splice. 
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: Buzz on February 10, 2017, 07:13:24 PM
I think you have to enjoy it while lasts. Which may be one hit or may be 300+ more runs.

Ryan there is a crack going across to the edge of the bat I think
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: Ryan on February 10, 2017, 07:14:36 PM
Actually just seen the tiny crack, not a lot you can do about that. Carry on using it as normal, just keep an eye on  it
 
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: Ryan on February 10, 2017, 07:15:58 PM
I think you have to enjoy it while lasts. Which may be one hit or may be 300+ more runs.

Ryan there is a crack going across to the edge of the bat I think

A 300 run bat would last me a few years buzz ;)
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: ppccopener on February 10, 2017, 07:17:11 PM
Hmmmm... I really don't like seeing this on any bat... Pretty much any crack can be repaired, even some shoulder splits have been done successfully by Tom and cam who are both excellent with repairs

But when it's here I just think the bat is a goner.

I hope someone else posts the complete opposite to my views but I had two go last year right in the same place.they both split in half. The were however storm damaged so there's no guarantee at all with those type of bats which you accept when buying them(presuming you know at the time that is-first I didn't , second one I did)

But I hope someone has something positive to say....I don't think so thou

Good luck
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: tom line on February 10, 2017, 07:22:01 PM
Unfortunately Carlo is right I think. This type of crack is terminal really, and it's hard to repair or prevent it going any further. Normally a result of the handle being put in too tight the crack will expand over time as the flex of the handle puts strain on that area. Also looking at the photo it seems to stretch across the back a little bit as well.

My advice, put any glue you can in there without opening it up as you don't want to make it any worse. Refurb as you would and then bind/tape or both and have a good prayer. As buzz said could be 3 balls or 300 runs
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: liscon12 on February 10, 2017, 07:39:49 PM
Have you contact Paul and asked his opinion @felix ?
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: felix on February 10, 2017, 07:51:29 PM
Well TBH you're all confirming my worst suspicions :( very sad, my favourite ever bat...

Have you contact Paul and asked his opinion @felix ?

No, but given I've had it since 2014 I can hardly complain.  One of those things I guess... I'll sticker her up anyway and keep my fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: edge on February 10, 2017, 08:36:45 PM
Doesn't look great that! Not very neat with the splice cutting, doesn't seem typical for Aldred. Can't help but feel that's probably led to the crack...
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: e4sby on February 10, 2017, 08:46:20 PM
Stick some glue in there - tape it up and see how it goes! Could last you years!
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: Kulli on February 10, 2017, 09:06:40 PM
Not sure there's really much can be done, just keep using it as normal until one day the bloke at cover ends up catching half your bat!
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: smilley792 on February 10, 2017, 09:19:49 PM
Well TBH you're all confirming my worst suspicions :( very sad, my favourite ever bat...

No, but given I've had it since 2014 I can hardly complain.  One of those things I guess... I'll sticker her up anyway and keep my fingers crossed.

Nice to see this kind of attitude. Social media these days is far too full of people using the internet to try and get free stuff.

Saw someone try and get a new coat of blacks the other day on Facebook because his stitching came loose after five years!! Five god dam years.
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: smilley792 on February 10, 2017, 09:21:12 PM
Also terminal
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: felix on February 10, 2017, 09:37:13 PM
Nice to see this kind of attitude. Social media these days is far too full of people using the internet to try and get free stuff.

No, I've no beef with Paul at all, I know some people here were very critical of him but from my experience that was unwarranted. I just hope I can find something as good as a replacement when she dies, it'll cost me more than £130 this time though.
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: Seniorplayer on February 10, 2017, 09:50:47 PM
Do as Tom suggested   Normally  you  will know when the bats on the way out as the handle will become lose .
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: ppccopener on February 10, 2017, 10:23:25 PM
If you retain the attitute of its one of those things you may find something comes your way in the right price range-certainly theres always good bats on the forum, theres 2 crackers in the for sale section.
I try myself.....to think a bat is a natural thing and could break at any time.
When it does go its gutting(your one is going to go im sure) but something else might be round the corner price wise
 :)
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: Boondougal on February 11, 2017, 12:04:13 AM
@felix ..... I feel sad, what a bat that is, loved it both times you were Generous enough to let me borrow it.
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: felix on February 11, 2017, 07:46:20 AM
My advice, put any glue you can in there without opening it up as you don't want to make it any worse. Refurb as you would and then bind/tape or both and have a good prayer. As buzz said could be 3 balls or 300 runs

@tom line, if I thought this would help in any way I'd try it. But the crack is so fine there's no chance of getting any meaningful glue in there.  And as for binding it, that would be fine if it were a vertical crack, but for a horizontal one like this I can't see what good it would do... or is there a specific way of binding it that I'd not thought of? It looks like prayer is my best bet.  One thing, of course I've no idea how long the crack's been there since the area's been hidden all this time. With luck it's been there some time and it's not opening up. The Kudos stickers I'm going to put on are mostly transparent so I'll be able to see whether it's getting worse.
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: springbok45 on February 11, 2017, 01:18:38 PM
Try model makers penetrating glue for the crack
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: felix on February 18, 2017, 08:07:45 AM
Well, sad to say it looks like you were all correct. After I finished my refurb (my very own Newbery stickered Aldred, how prescient  ;)) it looked lovely and I couldn't even see the crack. However I netted with it last night and it's opened up some more, there's even a crease in the sticker where it must have flexed. It's going to be firewood very soon  :(
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: The Cricket Boutique on February 18, 2017, 08:14:34 AM
Well, sad to say it looks like you were all correct. After I finished my refurb (my very own Newbery stickered Aldred, how prescient  ;)) it looked lovely and I couldn't even see the crack. However I netted with it last night and it's opened up some more, there's even a crease in the sticker where it must have flexed. It's going to be firewood very soon  :(

Sad times!  :(
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: northernboy1987 on February 18, 2017, 08:48:49 AM
If it's been your favourite all these years have you considered getting it copied by one of the sponsors? B3 specialise in it obviously or I'm sure Matt at H4L could copy it if that's your preference? Or are you just going to try something completely new?
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: felix on February 18, 2017, 09:04:22 AM
I don't know, I think for the meantime I'll probably go back to my hattori even though I couldn't quite get on with it last season, though don't think I can really blame it for my loss of form.  I think if I add to my (tiny) collection I'll make a break with the past, I'm sure if I tried to reproduce it I'd end up disappointed.
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: ppccopener on February 18, 2017, 09:10:04 AM
Yes no joy reading the update felix some of us only knew what would happen because we have suffered the same issues - there's really nothing can be done when it goes like this, when my h4l spilt in half last year(unseen storm damage ) whilst everyone else thought it hilarious in my team, I was quietly shedding a tear, it was a lovely bat  :)

Still....onwards and upwards as has been said. The for sale section of the forum has been great recently for second hand and has been said B3 everyone seems happy with on here(top service) and h4l have proved themselves excellent to deal with.

There's lots of choice thou for new bats, as northern says, if you really like the shape maybe a copy of the deceased one may be better.

Good luck, there's prob somethings just as good round the corner.
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: Cow_corner on February 19, 2017, 04:56:22 AM
Could always get Paul to make you another.
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: sachin200 on February 19, 2017, 05:25:46 AM
Just started refurbing my Aldred. Removed the sticker on the back and found this....

([url]http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah185/Malcburt/image_zpsjyru13ds.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/Malcburt/media/image_zpsjyru13ds.jpg.html[/url])

I can't decide how worried I should be about it. It seems like a very shallow crack (hard to see on the photo), but surely a very nasty place for this to happen to my inexpert eye. Any thoughts?

On the plus side, the anti scuff left behind loads of glue but white spirit took it off excellently.


I see the crack progressing towards the edge. Unfortunately this is going to be terminal. The bat may have some runs left in it though it is going to break soon!
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: felix on February 19, 2017, 08:03:44 AM
I'm resigned to its inevitable demise, so on an impulse bought @tom line 's Charlie French last night to replace it. Same weight and looks like a similar kind of profile
Title: Re: Is this terminal?
Post by: edge on February 19, 2017, 08:12:45 AM
I'm resigned to its inevitable demise, so on an impulse bought @tom line 's Charlie French last night to replace it. Same weight and looks like a similar kind of profile
That's the spirit, plenty more bats in the sea ;)