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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Calzehbhoy on February 13, 2017, 02:59:29 PM

Title: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: Calzehbhoy on February 13, 2017, 02:59:29 PM
I finally got to use my new 50/50 last night in the nets, the bat had come ready to go from H4L but I gave it an additional knock in and made sure the edges and toe were also rounded and had about more of a knocking it also.

15th ball I face I absolutely creamed off the middle and this happened, is it just the heartwood and some tape will fix or is it a more serious problem?

(http://i1024.photobucket.com/albums/y306/calzehbhoy/7C0D95E4-9D0E-4A57-8DCF-877496C0EE79_zpsfcdquyak.jpg)

See below article also about the 'Ready to Go' also as I know the first thing is going to be it's clearly not knocked in enough.

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=41153.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=41153.0)

* Should also add I'm not blaming H4L or after a new bat in anyway, just wanting to make sure that this isn't going to be terminal and how best to patch it up.

Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: smilley792 on February 13, 2017, 03:10:20 PM
Maybe not to this extreme. But I had similar with an h4l. It arrived apparently knocked in, and I too gave it a some work before uses, but found the heartwood side to be pretty fragile and had to do quite a lot more hours knocking in.


I believe H4l smith e for a knocking in machine, maybe they want to look into if it's doing anything to the bats before they go out? It may be down on pressure.




Other thing is to check the ball? Is it a sports direct drone they was playing with? I've had a few off those do series damage to knocked in well used bats!!
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: Calzehbhoy on February 13, 2017, 03:12:46 PM
Cheers @DorsetDan I thought that may be the case.
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: The Cricket Boutique on February 13, 2017, 03:16:33 PM
It looks like there is another ding further down. I would be looking at the ball someone was using if its just happened a couple of times in the 15 balls faced.
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: Calzehbhoy on February 13, 2017, 03:17:28 PM
I suspected the ball but I was the 4th into the nets and the ball hadn't caused any damage to the other bats so ruled that out. I wondered if it was something to do with where the Heartwood and Sapwood meets.

I also then switch the my Hattori and that receieved no additional damage.

As I say, it was more a question on will the damage spread and is the bat still usable/ is it terminal. I'll get some scuff sheets on order and make sure I don't go with a naked bat in future.
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: Northern monkey on February 13, 2017, 03:36:59 PM
Such a lovely bat, I'd never ever entertain that in nets without a scuff sheet on it.
Just takes the worry out of dodgy balls,correct oiling,knocking in etc

I've learnt the hard way
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: Calzehbhoy on February 13, 2017, 03:52:25 PM
As have I now @Northern monkey  :( . Felt even worse as I batted like (No Swearing Please) as well!

What's the going rate for scuff sheet these days?
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: tom line on February 13, 2017, 03:56:13 PM
Hammer edge for about £3-5
Vitas helicopter stuff £5.50/ metre
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: Calzehbhoy on February 13, 2017, 04:02:48 PM
Cheers @tom line
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: 19reading87 on February 13, 2017, 04:18:24 PM
Do you know if the ball was a crap one?
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: KW9221 on February 13, 2017, 04:34:49 PM
It seems as it was under prepared. The ball Seam mark shows it.

When did you last oil it?
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: Seniorplayer on February 13, 2017, 05:05:36 PM
 Ball Seam marks are a big clue here  glue sand and knock in
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: Whispering Death on February 13, 2017, 05:30:36 PM
Go back to h4l - a prepared bat shouldn't do this! Presumably you paid for the knocking in service!!?? I had one from h4l supposedly fully knocked in by them and it did something similar near the toe
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: Seniorplayer on February 13, 2017, 06:13:41 PM
Go back to h4l - a prepared bat shouldn't do this! Presumably you paid for the knocking in service!!?? I had one from h4l supposedly fully knocked in by them and it did something similar near the toe

Can't speak for h4l but  some company's  knocking in only involves toe and edges
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: tom line on February 13, 2017, 06:21:22 PM
Or don't take everything at face value!!!!

You may have paid for a knocking in service, but then you've got no scuff sheet, no guarantee of quality of ball and he's said he's nailed a drive when the first few sessions should be against old balls playing solely defensive shots to play the bat in and test the knocking in procedure is done fully
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: adb club cricketer on February 13, 2017, 06:39:22 PM
 Doesnt look major issue to me, but a knocked in bat should not leave such a mark either..Lastly, no batting without scuff sheet if you want it to last long!
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: Calzehbhoy on February 13, 2017, 06:43:45 PM
Cheers for suggestions all.
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: Whispering Death on February 13, 2017, 07:09:14 PM
A bit of the plastic sheet ain't gonna stop damage if bat isn't properly knocked in!
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: tom line on February 13, 2017, 07:28:05 PM
It would certainly help minimise the damage, and a properly knocked in bat can still receive severe damage if the ball is a rock
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: ppccopener on February 13, 2017, 08:07:12 PM
We should be praising you hitting the ball right out of the middle.

My bats go in the shoulder and toe I wish to god I could have damage like this  :)
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: FattusCattus on February 13, 2017, 08:10:52 PM
Wow - you really aren't confident about it - it's already for sale on the 'bay!!!
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: Calzehbhoy on February 13, 2017, 08:18:00 PM
Wow - you really aren't confident about it - it's already for sale on the 'bay!!!

Toys out the pram more than anything! I'll probably have delisted it tomorrow and be ordering wood glue, scuff sheet and an LV Mallet to knock it in better 😑
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: ppccopener on February 13, 2017, 08:23:55 PM
Pink Elastoplast is the way to go  :)
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: JB on February 13, 2017, 09:00:30 PM
I just looked at the photos in the listing, they don't look anywhere near as bad as the close up. Bit of glue and knock it in, it'll be fine.

I never use a bat without a scuff sheet and have never had problems like this. I got some hammer scuff sheets off Tom @Ayrtek Cricket and they are superb quality. Bought a few together so they were cheap too  :D
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: GDP1964 on February 13, 2017, 09:07:01 PM
I ve looked at the damage posted here and I've never seen a seam mark like that let alone the damage it's done in my opion that's no normal ball more like brick was bowled at you . In spite of this very easily fixed and a scuff sheet is highly recommended you will be amazed how much impact protection it provides get it off eBay you will be sorry if you don't
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: springbok45 on February 13, 2017, 10:16:50 PM
Nope, that's definitely done, send it to me for safe disposal :D

Or get it checked out by Matt and beat, whoever was bowling rocks at you, with a flexi stump for being a complete tit.
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: brokenbat on February 14, 2017, 03:45:56 AM
Have h4l check it out. It SHOULD be a glue, clamp, sand job...but there is a chance it starts to delaminat from that spot. So, best to have them sort you out
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: bostoncricketer on February 14, 2017, 04:56:18 AM
Have similar damage on one of my bats. Gluing might not help as it will open up after repeated impact. Would recommend a strip or two of fibreglass tape across with a scuff sheet on top for added protection.
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: skip1973 on February 14, 2017, 05:38:58 AM
Go back to h4l - a prepared bat shouldn't do this! Presumably you paid for the knocking in service!!?? I had one from h4l supposedly fully knocked in by them and it did something similar near the toe
Looks like a combination of rock hard ball, red wood, and no sleeve. Not terminal as suggested and I wouldn't necessarily be blaming whoever knocked it in.
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: Dunamis Cricket on February 14, 2017, 06:35:14 AM
Oh dear that doesnt look good in our opinion!! Glue might work but i wouldn't trust it 100%! PM us to order a new one we will sort you out!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: Calzehbhoy on February 14, 2017, 08:20:13 AM
I did PM you about a different bat @Dunamis Cricket you replied to one of my emails then never responded to me again.
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: Dunamis Cricket on February 14, 2017, 08:37:15 AM
I did PM you about a different bat @Dunamis Cricket you replied to one of my emails then never responded to me again.

Sorry mate! The forum is actually run by a different person, what's your email I'll make sure we get back to you asap!
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: Calzehbhoy on February 14, 2017, 09:40:45 AM
Cheers for all the suggestions guys!

As I said was probably more a toys out the pram knee jerk reaction.

I've taken it off eBay and will get some scuff sheets and glue ordered. Once again thanks for reponses and suggestions.
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: Seniorplayer on February 14, 2017, 09:53:15 AM
Don't blame you removing its to big a price drop to lose.
Personally if i were repairing it i would just  sand it out along the grains knock in  and scuff
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: Neon Cricket on February 14, 2017, 10:33:34 AM
Damn it! Had my eye on that haha - decent grainage!
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: ppccopener on February 14, 2017, 11:38:10 AM
right everyone who was watching that down tools there is nothing to see here  :)

good job Calzaghy keep it she will come good in the long run


Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: Mpt7 on February 14, 2017, 03:38:31 PM
saw it, loved it and then it disappears.

This is becoming a unicorn bat!!
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: ppccopener on February 14, 2017, 04:04:08 PM
to be fair if I ever got a huge dent right out of the middle I wouldn't sell the bat.

i'd put it in a frame and stick it up in the living room.
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: nirmal on February 14, 2017, 04:07:35 PM
If you look a close look at the picture you can see the dent mark,it apparently says its not pressed properly.Looks like a good willow.
Title: Re: Is this going to be a problem or will glue do the job?
Post by: Seniorplayer on February 14, 2017, 04:25:55 PM
to be fair if I ever got a huge dent right out of the middle I wouldn't sell the bat.

i'd put it in a frame and stick it up in the living room.

If I got one out of the middle like that i would put it  on the club house  wall and ask everyone if they had seen it !