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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: Howzat on February 01, 2010, 01:07:58 PM
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What do you think?
In my opinion if Ireland becomes a test team, teams like Australia and India will be forced to be play tests against them which is a waste of time which will mean fewers tests between strong teams.
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In short, probably not yet. However I think they should play more ODI's against the Test Nations.
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NO BECAUSE THE GOT THRASHED BY AFGHANISTAN!
THAT TELLS THE STORY!
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Ireland not ready yet
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Ireland should only play test match cricket if there is a two tier test division! But for the time being a put no.
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Think their far from ready for test cricket.....so for that reason i'm out. [i mean thats a No!]
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Not ready or anywhere near good enough but perhaps in the future and possibly if they split into two divisions perhaps that may work however i cant see two divisions any time soon.
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Yeah i have to agree with choppy and watson . . . .if they introduced a two tier system then im all for it but I dont see the point of having another sub standard team like Bangladesh/Zimbabwe in the test playing arena.
Would be good to see more international teams though as I think it adds a little more interest to the game! Love seeing new teams at the World Cup like Namibia, UAE etc.
By the way are they getting Test status or is this just hypothetical?
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Yeah i have to agree with choppy and watson . . . .if they introduced a two tier system then im all for it but I dont see the point of having another sub standard team like Bangladesh/Zimbabwe in the test playing arena.
Would be good to see more international teams though as I think it adds a little more interest to the game! Love seeing new teams at the World Cup like Namibia, UAE etc.
By the way are they getting Test status or is this just hypothetical?
Hypothetical
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A massive no, UNLESS I can go and watch the 2 days any tests would take and get bladdered on decent Guinness instead of gnats p*ss lager!!!
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i think these budding teams like Ireland, Kenya, Afghanistan, they should be sent on tour world over by ICC to play full domestic tours in test playing nations. I remember Bangladesh playing in Pakistan's premier domestic one day tournament and they ha d a hard time then. They learnt a lot and did win some games in the end of the tour. So imagine Kenya having first class games in bouncy Aussie pitches orr Afghanistan playing in wet English conditions for a couple of months. Thats the first step in their development. The associate first class event should also be played at regular intervals to get more team playing.
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They would benefit from it and could play part of a second division of nations alongside Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and others.
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They would benefit from it and could play part of a second division of nations alongside Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and others.
Mike, I wouldn't give Ireland a hope in hell vs Zimbabwe, let alone Bangladesh.
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jeet do you know anything about Irish cricket at all.
the inforstructure is getting better and better i dont think there ready yet but they would be a match for Zimbabwe and they need more exposure to international cricket not less to maybe oneday get them ready
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jeet do you know anything about Irish cricket at all.
the inforstructure is getting better and better i dont think there ready yet but they would be a match for Zimbabwe and they need more exposure to international cricket not less to maybe oneday get them ready
Yes I do, hence the statement.
Sorry guys like Trent Johnston won't get the job done against Zimbabwe, that's are sure.
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and tell me who are zimbabwe class players they have not 1
Ireland are up with the likes of Zimbabwe just think a 2 tire system would be benifical to cricket
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I'm pretty sure having been with the Irish squad last year that they would be more than capable of taking on Zimbabwe, plus the advantage of being given Test match status would stop the drain of the top talent into England, Eoin Morgan being one of the latest to swap sides. If the rule to joining a group is being able to beat members of that group straight away then it's a closed shop for all and Afghanistan have proved how quickly a side can improve.
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and tell me who are zimbabwe class players they have not 1
Ireland are up with the likes of Zimbabwe just think a 2 tire system would be benifical to cricket
Rubbish. Zimbabwe's current pool of youngsters is very promising(players like Cremer, Masakadza, Kyle Jarvis(a rapid pace bowler) etc). More importantly, for Zimbabwe, their rebel players have returned to play in Zimbabwe.
Guys like Tatenda Taibu, Sean Ervine, Andy Blignaut and Ray Price are a damn sight better than anything Ireland have.
Third point, guys like Heath Streak and Grant Flower have joined Zimbabwe's coaching team, they are proven player
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Rubbish. Zimbabwe's current pool of youngsters is very promising(players like Cremer, Masakadza, Kyle Jarvis(a rapid pace bowler) etc). More importantly, for Zimbabwe, their rebel players have returned to play in Zimbabwe.
Guys like Tatenda Taibu, Sean Ervine, Andy Blignaut and Ray Price are a damn sight better than anything Ireland have.
Third point, guys like Heath Streak and Grant Flower have joined Zimbabwe's coaching team, they are proven player
So if the ICC offer an amnesty to all of Ireland's ex cricketers who have played for england (which i imagine they would), and they get joyce and morgan back, there's 2 players who are better than anything zimbabwe have. secondly, zimbabwe's domestic scene is atrocious, there are a lot of players playing there who are little better than club standard! a lot of ireland's players play in the english domestic scene, which is very strong. thirdly, the o'briens, boyd rankin, peter connell, etc are all at least as good as those zimbabwe players that you have mentioned, if not better.
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So if the ICC offer an amnesty to all of Ireland's ex cricketers who have played for england (which i imagine they would), and they get joyce and morgan back, there's 2 players who are better than anything zimbabwe have. secondly, zimbabwe's domestic scene is atrocious, there are a lot of players playing there who are little better than club standard! a lot of ireland's players play in the english domestic scene, which is very strong. thirdly, the o'briens, boyd rankin, peter connell, etc are all at least as good as those zimbabwe players that you have mentioned, if not better.
Naill O'Brien isn't half the player Tatenda Taibu is. Taibu is world class.
Barring the O'Brien's, Wilson and Rankin none of the rest would get a look in at most counties.
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You will have to explain to me why Ireland have done so well recently then since Zimbabwe are far better yet have done nothing except be destroyed by the Government.
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sorry but Taibu record hardly warrants a world class elevation
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You will have to explain to me why Ireland have done so well recently then since Zimbabwe are far better yet have done nothing except be destroyed by the Government.
Ireland have done so well in what? Qualifying for WT20? They where staged by afghanistan
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sorry but Taibu record hardly warrants a world class elevation
I'd like to see you playing for Zimbabwe and averaging 50+
Just to point out, I'm not saying Taibu averages 50
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oh man getting personal so who are you Tendulkar and i will leave it at that.
and by the way what has he done to be classed world class only asking
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I'm thinking more of their record in reaching and progressing in the One Day World Cup and running England close recently. I have a lot of Zimbabwean friends and they will be the first to conform that the state of cricket in the country is near finished. The top talent from the country has moved around the world and has tried to qualify for domestic cricket in England, Australia and New Zealand. They will be unlikely to ever regain their former glories.
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oh man getting personal so who are you Tendulkar and i will leave it at that.
and by the way what has he done to be classed world class only asking
What you crying for? You stated that you don't rate Taibu. I merely said, 'I'd like to see you averaging 50 in F/C cricket. Tongue in cheek comment. Jeez...
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mate if i wish i could averaging 50 in any form of cricket i would be happy even my little son can get me out and he only 4
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I'm thinking more of their record in reaching and progressing in the One Day World Cup and running England close recently. I have a lot of Zimbabwean friends and they will be the first to conform that the state of cricket in the country is near finished. The top talent from the country has moved around the world and has tried to qualify for domestic cricket in England, Australia and New Zealand. They will be unlikely to ever regain their former glories.
Mike, if Zimbabwe's F/C cricket was finished, then why are the ZC investing money in grass roots cricket?
Also, why are English players playing in the Zimbabwean domestic T20 tournament? ZC must be doing something to attract these players. These aren't England's top players, youngsters like Rayner from Sussex
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I think that the current changes are great but they hardly have concrete foundations, lets hope it gets better.
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Mike, I forgot to add, you know ZC still gets money from the ICC. I mean Zimbabwe are still a full member nation, though they don't play Tests atm. So I guess that money is helping keep Zimbabwean cricket alive.
I did read something the other day that made me laugh. ZC asked India if they would be interested in playing a 2 Test series in Zimbabwe. Unsuprisinly, BCCI said no, but would kee Zimbabwe an option, if India's tour to SL fell through. What would Zimbabwe get from being battered by Sehwag & co in 2 Tests?
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ZC is as corrupt as the Government, but at least good news has come out of there.