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Title: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: liscon12 on June 24, 2017, 08:24:23 AM
Saw this photo on JP Gavan's Snapchat, why would anyone do this??

(http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/Liam_Mulholland/Screenshot_2017-06-24-07-48-34_zpssl3hxfgi.png) (http://s87.photobucket.com/user/Liam_Mulholland/media/Screenshot_2017-06-24-07-48-34_zpssl3hxfgi.png.html)
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on June 24, 2017, 08:32:52 AM
At a guess to reduce the weight?  ;)
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: Biggie Smalls on June 24, 2017, 08:40:40 AM
Apparently it was 2lb15oz , a it's for a weight reduction . I think it's sacrilegious too .
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: Mpt7 on June 24, 2017, 09:25:43 AM
Why? Why? Why?
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on June 24, 2017, 10:05:30 AM
Why? Why? Why?
Delilah
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: JB on June 24, 2017, 10:16:54 AM
Surely you'd just sell it and buy a lighter one???
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: Aussiecollector on June 25, 2017, 01:15:07 AM
How to custom something already unique , this years atomic , velocity & players bats would have been already in this shape & weight desired , shame to modify a beauty , but each to his own , would have not been hard to find a buyer then go shopping for a replacement , & why ruin the stickers in the process ???
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: Woodyspin on June 25, 2017, 03:05:56 AM
why ruin the stickers in the process ???

So he can put on his own hidious stickers?
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: Biggie Smalls on June 25, 2017, 02:07:30 PM
Maybe that is how it arrived to him?


No , there's an earlier shot of the bat in original condition.
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: t2ylo on June 25, 2017, 06:33:27 PM
Whisper it quietly but I've never understood the fuss about the XPs
But surely you would flog it and buy something else; not butcher the concept
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: smilley792 on June 25, 2017, 08:27:00 PM
My theory is ful of presumptions. But I'd hazard a guess it goes like this.

Not having a good season, sees big bat and thinks I want some of that.
Waves it in shop and says, yeah it's heavier than I'm used to but I can cope.
He cannot cope, it's a handful in nets and games.
No team mate wants it
He's not on cbf
And eBay is full of chances offering him 10% of what he paid

Leaves only the one option of he can't afford to collect them like rest of us. Weight reduction.
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: brokenbat on June 25, 2017, 08:33:05 PM
My theory is ful of presumptions. But I'd hazard a guess it goes like this.

Not having a good season, sees big bat and thinks I want some of that.
Waves it in shop and says, yeah it's heavier than I'm used to but I can cope.
He cannot cope, it's a handful in nets and games.
No team mate wants it
He's not on cbf
And eBay is full of chances offering him 10% of what he paid

Leaves only the one option of he can't afford to collect them like rest of us. Weight reduction.

Exactly.. Did what he had to do to use it instead of worrying about useless things like stickers.
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: JPGavan on June 26, 2017, 06:24:54 AM
All done. https://www.facebook.com/JPGavan/photos/pcb.1814836361876499/1814836208543181/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/JPGavan/photos/pcb.1814836361876499/1814836208543181/?type=3&theater)
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: JPGavan on June 26, 2017, 07:17:19 AM
My theory is ful of presumptions. But I'd hazard a guess it goes like this.

Not having a good season, sees big bat and thinks I want some of that.
Waves it in shop and says, yeah it's heavier than I'm used to but I can cope.
He cannot cope, it's a handful in nets and games.
No team mate wants it
He's not on cbf
And eBay is full of chances offering him 10% of what he paid

Leaves only the one option of he can't afford to collect them like rest of us. Weight reduction.

FYI it was bought at the start of the season to replace an old favourite (GN Fusion from the Hayden era) and didn't score the runs required. So we're adjusting the balance but reducing the spine so it's similar to the old one. And yes - much cheaper than buying a new one and it comes back pretty close to brand new :). And he wanted new matte black stickers on it too.
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: springbok45 on June 26, 2017, 08:53:29 AM
All done. https://www.facebook.com/JPGavan/photos/pcb.1814836361876499/1814836208543181/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/JPGavan/photos/pcb.1814836361876499/1814836208543181/?type=3&theater)

Nice work
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: Calzehbhoy on June 26, 2017, 09:02:42 AM
He's basically turned a heavy XP80 into a regular weight XP70?
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: Biggie Smalls on June 26, 2017, 09:42:40 AM
Pretty much .
A jpg70  ;)
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: liscon12 on June 26, 2017, 11:28:44 AM
All done. https://www.facebook.com/JPGavan/photos/pcb.1814836361876499/1814836208543181/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/JPGavan/photos/pcb.1814836361876499/1814836208543181/?type=3&theater)
You'll never have known it was an xp80 now. Sad times
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: InternalTraining on June 26, 2017, 12:14:59 PM
Reducing a bat from 2-15 requires removal of a lot of wood. I am wondering what was the final weight of the bat.

Chris Lynn removed an inch off the toe of his "big bat" which resulted in a "Chris Lynn" profile - big bat with a smaller blade. I'd have done something like that if my XP-80 was too heavy for me.

@JPGavan, in your opinion, how would the balance of an XP80 change if you'd had removed the toe (by 1 inch) of the bat?
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: Churchy1989 on June 26, 2017, 12:33:45 PM
I know there are a few on here that don't like JPG, but he is living our dreams...... Would love to do what he does.

Need to win the lottery to get to do it!
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: JPGavan on June 27, 2017, 12:03:33 AM
Reducing a bat from 2-15 requires removal of a lot of wood. I am wondering what was the final weight of the bat.

Chris Lynn removed an inch off the toe of his "big bat" which resulted in a "Chris Lynn" profile - big bat with a smaller blade. I'd have done something like that if my XP-80 was too heavy for me.

@JPGavan, in your opinion, how would the balance of an XP80 change if you'd had removed the toe (by 1 inch) of the bat?

From memory Lynny cut off a big from the toe before a Sheild game to remove some weight. He said it was about 1oz but it's probably not the preferred method of weight reduction.

By no means am I involved with GN but I think the XP80s were made from the heavier oversized clefts. The majority of them were around the same weight as the Kabooms and 50+s. So in theory GN would get in a batch of oversized clefts and separate them into heavy clefts and lighter clefts. The lighter ones can be made thicker for the same weight. The XP80s are really good in 2.9-2.11 weights but you can get 50+/Kaboom in 2.12 so that probably makes more sense if you're in the shop. From my experience the XP80s probably didn't sell that well (especially compared to 50+ and Kaboom) and at the $700ish price point there's maybe some better options despite the rare shape.
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: InternalTraining on June 27, 2017, 02:52:14 AM
From memory Lynny cut off a big from the toe before a Sheild game to remove some weight. He said it was about 1oz but it's probably not the preferred method of weight reduction.

By no means am I involved with GN but I think the XP80s were made from the heavier oversized clefts. The majority of them were around the same weight as the Kabooms and 50+s. So in theory GN would get in a batch of oversized clefts and separate them into heavy clefts and lighter clefts. The lighter ones can be made thicker for the same weight. The XP80s are really good in 2.9-2.11 weights but you can get 50+/Kaboom in 2.12 so that probably makes more sense if you're in the shop. From my experience the XP80s probably didn't sell that well (especially compared to 50+ and Kaboom) and at the $700ish price point there's maybe some better options despite the rare shape.


My XP80 is 2-10 fully dressed, with extra grip and anti-scuff sheet, it weighs 2-11.3. I think toe is weak but rest of it goes like an over-caffeinated monkey on a trampoline! The discounted price these days is probably the better price for an XP80. If I could get a heavy one, I'd remove the toe by an inch to get the weight down.

People who got 2-12 Warner are very lucky! I can't seem to find one in that weight. Lightest I got is 2-13+.

If someone is lucky enough to land a new 2017 Warner replica, they will see some differences in the bat.
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: JPGavan on June 27, 2017, 04:17:04 AM


My XP80 is 2-10 fully dressed, with extra grip and anti-scuff sheet, it weighs 2-11.3. I think toe is weak but rest of it goes like an over-caffeinated monkey on a trampoline! The discounted price these days is probably the better price for an XP80. If I could get a heavy one, I'd remove the toe by an inch to get the weight down.

People who got 2-12 Warner are very lucky! I can't seem to find one in that weight. Lightest I got is 2-13+.

If someone is lucky enough to land a new 2017 Warner replica, they will see some differences in the bat.

I'm looking forward to seeing the October 2017 Warner edition!
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: Biggie Smalls on June 27, 2017, 09:57:22 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing the October 2017 Warner edition!


40mm edge , 60mm spine , 5mm camber ? If thats the case , they may end up resembling the very original (circa 2010? 11? ) kabooms .
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: InternalTraining on June 27, 2017, 11:00:06 AM
^ Can't imagine Warner using a bat with those specs...just doesn't feel right.
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: potzy248 on June 27, 2017, 08:09:57 PM
http://www.playerssports.co.nz/cricket/product/7448/gray-nicolls-kaboom-players-edition-dw (http://www.playerssports.co.nz/cricket/product/7448/gray-nicolls-kaboom-players-edition-dw)
Title: Re: Sacrilege!!!
Post by: Sitonit on June 28, 2017, 03:38:17 PM
All done. https://www.facebook.com/JPGavan/photos/pcb.1814836361876499/1814836208543181/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/JPGavan/photos/pcb.1814836361876499/1814836208543181/?type=3&theater)

Neatly done. But what was the reason behind it? Meet the new bat specs and make it legal?