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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Shinpathy on July 04, 2017, 09:07:47 AM
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Just saw this from the FC Sondhi factory.
(https://i.gyazo.com/65c7758f9fe74950702060986c61a3a9.jpg)
See the Slazenger at the right corner too :)
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You are there currently
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No just received info from someone there picking out bats.
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No just received info from someone there picking out bats.
Which is crownecricketer ;)
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Which is crownecricketer ;)
Beasty Dhoni bats too ;)
(https://i.gyazo.com/615c5868d22b172a2e927080a34fa49f.png) (https://i.gyazo.com/503aee4ae49acd604738d0c937b6f6ea.jpg)
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Will definitely be 1200grams plus in weights..
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Not sure if it is helping him, wielding such heavy blades with his slowing reflexes and turtle pace batting these days.
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Liam Plunkett's name seems to be on one of the handles.
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Last time I checked Mr. Stokes gets his sorted out by a place in Nottingham. Ah.
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Pretty sure they get bats made from more than one place :)
Although most would love to think players source only from the UK
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The question really is, why would you buy an off the shelf nb bat when you can buy a slaz bat from the same manufacturer for a fraction of the price...
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So its true now that players names are written on the handle or toe :D
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Is FC Sindhi accessible to everyday cricketers? Would they make bats for us using the same willow?
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Is FC Sindhi accessible to everyday cricketers? Would they make bats for us using the same willow?
I dont think so imo. At times the guy at crowne cricketer goes to the factory to handpick bats and then he comes out with these. Basically a strong source is required over there to get these pro bats.
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I dont think so imo. At times the guy at crowne cricketer goes to the factory to handpick bats and then he comes out with these. Basically a strong source is required over there to get these pro bats.
And a strong wallet :D
Although comparatively to UK and AUS it may still be considered cheaper. ;)
With Kookaburras and GM's going for $1000-$1500+
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@joymarvin @Shinpathy , are you two associated with crown cricketer?
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@joymarvin @Shinpathy , are you two associated with crown cricketer?
Nope not at all, :).
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Last time I checked Mr. Stokes gets his sorted out by a place in Nottingham. Ah.
When did you last check?
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@joymarvin @Shinpathy , are you two associated with crown cricketer?
Nopes.
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The question really is, why would you buy an off the shelf nb bat when you can buy a slaz bat from the same manufacturer for a fraction of the price...
Same factory/manufacturer doesn't mean the same bat-maker or/and same willow. Just my two cents
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We are going about all this the wring way. Us, the CBFers, should collectively use our buying power to access those types of bats from all over the world. Buying in bulk will also help negotiate better prices. We are the real market, not these snobby pros!
One or two guys just buying individual bats and parading them on CBF just makes no sense, kinda silly.
We should pool our resources, buy in bulk, get access to better quality bats and also better prices.
Doable?
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We are going about all this the wring way. Us, the CBFers, should collectively use our buying power to access those types of bats from all over the world. Buying in bulk will also help negotiate better prices. We are the real market, not these snobby pros!
One or two guys just buying individual bats and parading them on CBF just makes no sense, kinda silly.
We should pool our resources, buy in bulk, get access to better quality bats and also better prices.
Doable?
Agreed although my bow and toe requirements might not match up with yours :P haha
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^ Weight as well...but you understand what I am saying there. As a group, we can negotiate better terms and more choices.
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I'd happily place us a bulk order with RS if there's interest - new price list taking the GST changes into account is due imminently. From memory the minimum order at trade price is around 16 bats.
I'm due to place a bulk order of softs/bags in the next few weeks anyway so can always tag some bats on to this if desired - would need the money upfront however!
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^ Weight as well...but you understand what I am saying there. As a group, we can negotiate better terms and more choices.
Can "we" though?
Using Steve Smith as an example, FC Sondhi have one of his bats on site that he wants all his new ones based on. He can therefore get as many as he likes in that shape.
If we all grouped together in prepared to bet no two people would want the same thing. How is ordering 20 different spec bats at once any different to 20 different people ordering themselves a custom each?
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Can "we" though?
Using Steve Smith as an example, FC Sondhi have one of his bats on site that he wants all his new ones based on. He can therefore get as many as he likes in that shape.
If we all grouped together in prepared to bet no two people would want the same thing. How is ordering 20 different spec bats at once any different to 20 different people ordering themselves a custom each?
Economies of scale. If you order 20 bats in one order, you'll get them cheaper.
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We are going about all this the wring way. Us, the CBFers, should collectively use our buying power to access those types of bats from all over the world. Buying in bulk will also help negotiate better prices. We are the real market, not these snobby pros!
One or two guys just buying individual bats and parading them on CBF just makes no sense, kinda silly.
We should pool our resources, buy in bulk, get access to better quality bats and also better prices.
Doable?
Isn't this what the sponsors are for?!
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I have a couple of Tom Alsop bats from sondhi there good bats mind!!
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What a way to thank all our Sponsors on here as an ex sponsor I can only feel for you all
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What a way to thank all our Sponsors on here as an ex sponsor I can only feel for you all
No comment ;)
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Just got one of Steve Smith's actual bats handpicked by the director of Protos/Sondhi 2 weeks ago.
He told my friend who got me it that it was the best bat out of all the Smith bats they made - its a really special L.E. cleft and was graded on ping and pickup.
Weighs 2.9 but feels like 2.6 and is a beast. Very full profile - lots of meat.
My friend is really good friends with the director so he saves him the best ones, but it also costs a lot.
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He told my friend who got me it that it was the best bat out of all the Smith bats they made
Call me a sceptic, but I reckon the best Steve Smith bat Steve Smith's batmakers have made probably ended up in the hands of Steve Smith...
Also, this bat clearly doesn't exist?
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We are going about all this the wring way. Us, the CBFers, should collectively use our buying power to access those types of bats from all over the world. Buying in bulk will also help negotiate better prices. We are the real market, not these snobby pros!
One or two guys just buying individual bats and parading them on CBF just makes no sense, kinda silly.
We should pool our resources, buy in bulk, get access to better quality bats and also better prices.
Doable?
A. This forum isn't the real market. B. Ethically they shouldn't sell to a small group or individuals, not when retailers keep them in business.
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B. Ethically they shouldn't sell to a small group or individuals, not when retailers keep them in business.
Agree with you on that one! But then again we all know ethics go out the window for most suppliers overseas... (especially when you get designs made "exclusively" to then be sold with the most minute of alterations within a month :D)
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What a way to thank all our Sponsors on here as an ex sponsor I can only feel for you all
Confused by this statement? Why do you 'feel sorry' for the sponsors? Fairly sure every single sponsor has made sales off the back of forum sponsorship yourself included when you were a sponsor. Are you suggesting that members of the forum shouldn't buy from any other retailer?
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Confused by this statement? Why do you 'feel sorry' for the sponsors? Fairly sure every single sponsor has made sales off the back of forum sponsorship yourself included when you were a sponsor. Are you suggesting that members of the forum shouldn't buy from any other retailer?
This suggestion isn't buying off another retailer.
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Confused by this statement? Why do you 'feel sorry' for the sponsors? Fairly sure every single sponsor has made sales off the back of forum sponsorship yourself included when you were a sponsor. Are you suggesting that members of the forum shouldn't buy from any other retailer?
You can buy from whatever RETAILER you want you can also go direct to Manufacturers as well if you want .
But by going this route you basically telling RETAIL Sponsors on here is if we can buy in bulk we don't need you .
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I think we should perhaps not lose sight of the fact that this site was established to champion the cause of independent UK batmakers.
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Call me a sceptic, but I reckon the best Steve Smith bat Steve Smith's batmakers have made probably ended up in the hands of Steve Smith...
Also, this bat clearly doesn't exist?
Lol, it does exist. I think that was made pretty clear?... Some have already seen pics of it. And no, that's not necessary. Steve Smith will take bats that have amazing ping and have heartwood/two-tone. He's super-picky about that. The one that I have right now had the best ping of the lot but didn't have heartwood, so my friend took it.
He knows most bat directors really, really well.
If you want photos, PM me and I'll give you my email there.
They had to sticker it Protos Hurricane, though, as Protos can't sell New Balance directly from their factory.
Same goes for all those that make, for example, Dhoni's bats - they can't sticker it with Spartan and sell it directly.
I also currently have one of Virat Kohli's actual ones from Jatin. Best pinger by a country-mile. Crazy, crazy bat.
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I think we should perhaps not lose sight of the fact that this site was established to champion the cause of independent UK batmakers.
Totally and I fully support that, I've purchased more than my fair share of independent UK made bats and fully appreciate their work, owning 2 H4L's & having owned Red Ink, Bulldog, Shark, B3 & Stretton all as a result of their sponsorship of this forum shows I more than support the sponsors of this forum and that sponsorship does have it's benefits . I Just didn't see the need to suggest that because an idea of collective buying power was floated that it was a slight against the sponsors in anyway and that sponsors should be offended as a result?
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@InternalTraining's suggestion was more to do with getting Pro quality bats at cheaper price (compared to insane market prices of today) and not about boycotting the sponsors.
As for people defending the sponsors, yes a lot of them do a good job but are you telling me they are selling them at trade price or cheapest in market? no they are not and its ok, they are a business and need to make money. Just because I paid to go watch IPL doesn't mean I can only drink pepsi and nothing else because they sponsored the event I am at...
We've had sponsors in past cheat forum members out of money, gear and hours upon hours of time...not all are saints...people have been sent wrong items, things that don't meet what they asked for and then ridiculed publicly for questioning the sponsor many a times...yet we have no problems slinging mud on brands from other nations or ex-sponsor...
There are brands out there charging 400GBP for stickered up bats made in India...what's the point of supporting those brands? I am not saying they are or are not on this forum, I don't know...
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Just got one of Steve Smith's actual bats handpicked by the director of Protos/Sondhi 2 weeks ago.
He told my friend who got me it that it was the best bat out of all the Smith bats they made - its a really special L.E. cleft and was graded on ping and pickup.
Weighs 2.9 but feels like 2.6 and is a beast. Very full profile - lots of meat.
My friend is really good friends with the director so he saves him the best ones, but it also costs a lot.
Ryan Grundy that you? ;)
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I think we should perhaps not lose sight of the fact that this site was established to champion the cause of independent UK batmakers.
I didn't actually know this although it makes complete sense. Also a lot of the threads on here now make more sense :)
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Lol, it does exist.
Ha, see forum golden rule #1!
...and #39 is worth a look too ;)
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I think we should perhaps not lose sight of the fact that this site was established to champion the cause of independent UK batmakers.
This is perfectly fine but then when you have retailers as sponsors here, it is confusing as the retailers will sell all brands that are not considered "independent UK batmakers" as well and folks post about them too. I see a lot more posts here that are neither from the UK/independent batmakers nor from the sponsors, not sure if that is due to a lack of knowledge or not. Would be good to set the rules clearly so the site achieves its intended purpose.
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If this forum was strictly only for independent uk batmakers i would likely never have joined it . There are plenty of mainstream , small scale non uk , large scale non uk , subcontinental brands etc that i take great interest in . The fact that i can read and discuss all those brands while also being exposed to independent uk batmakers/forum sponsors etc means i am more likely to purchase from them .... i probably wouldn't have hung around on here long enough to have made purchases from forum sponsors if i could only discuss /read of their wares . So , ultimately, i think the forum talking about anything and everything that attracts people to the forum means more eyeballs to be exposed to their products , and thus , more likelyhood of sales they otherwise might not have made .
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For me the forum has always been about bats both sponsored and non sponsors and at times I have brought a couple of brands to the forum.
You get your hard core fans of certain brands and fair play by I look forward to new brands and bats from new sources
Cricket is to be shared
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First, my proposal has nothing to do with the sponsors. I am talking about pooling resources to find "Pro" level bats from "all over the world".
Second, we have to consider a changing demand for the kind of bats as well as the volume. The forum has grown over the years and people have diverse views and requirements. We can't force the shoe to be "one size fit all" and have to consider options which benefit the bat buyers, us! I just don't see the need for the negativity and criticism displayed in this thread. Cricket world is big and growing; so is the pool of bat buyers. Let's embrace change instead of fighting it.
Third, stop being so dramatic about "loyalty" this and that. No body has ever given me a free bat or gear simply because I am a member of the forum.
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First, my proposal has nothing to do with the sponsors. I am talking about pooling resources to find "Pro" level bats from "all over the world".
Second, we have to consider a changing demand for the kind of bats as well as the volume. The forum has grown over the years and people have diverse views and requirements. We can't force the shoe to be "one size fit all" and have to consider options which benefit the bat buyers, us! I just don't see the need for the negativity and criticism displayed in this thread. Cricket world is big and growing; so is the pool of bat buyers. Let's embrace change instead of fighting it.
Third, stop being so dramatic about "loyalty" this and that. No body has ever given me a free bat or gear simply because I am a member of the forum.
It's far from growing, the opposite in fact.
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Maybe the forum hasn't grown , haven't been on it long enough to know. ... but maybe it's diversifying?
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The myth of the pro level bat...
I reckon if I lent mine to Virat/ABdV/Root they would get on perfectly well with it.
Perhaps they are just really really good at cricket and the bats are broadly similar.
Okay - I'll get my coat
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The myth of the pro level bat...
I reckon if I lent mine to Virat/ABdV/Root they would get on perfectly well with it.
Perhaps they are just really really good at cricket and the bats are broadly similar.
Okay - I'll get my coat
Haha, get out!
We have a lad who played a couple of 2XI game in NZ and now turns out 5-6 times a year, top quality batter who doesn't own more than a box these days. Regularly picks up some absolute plank from the team kit and breezes his way to 70-80 with it.
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The myth of the pro level bat...
I reckon if I lent mine to Virat/ABdV/Root they would get on perfectly well with it.
Perhaps they are just really really good at cricket and the bats are broadly similar.
Okay - I'll get my coat
Agree.
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(https://i.gyazo.com/73ac13cc19de5a880ebfc5a85c70e5dc.png)
Do I spy another sharpie :D?
Edges on that look huge too
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So it is true regarding sharpie's on the toe haha and edges are huge @Shinpathy
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(https://i.gyazo.com/73ac13cc19de5a880ebfc5a85c70e5dc.png)
Do I spy another sharpie :D?
Edges on that look huge too
He probably wrote it himself to make it look like a pro bat!!
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that looks like a 3lb bat!
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Some of the 4s he hit were from the toe. Like literally bullets from the toe. The bats he has have to be special.
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Yup, I saw a jonny bairstow cover drive recently off a full/yorker outside off stump, that went right off the toe and it raced like a bullet to cover boundary, commentator was saying fielder has no chance to stop that...i dont remember seeing any bat outside TV where toe had such response..
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Yup, I saw a jonny bairstow cover drive recently off a full/yorker outside off stump, that went right off the toe and it raced like a bullet to cover boundary, commentator was saying fielder has no chance to stop that...i dont remember seeing any bat outside TV where toe had such response..
That's just tv camera which adds a few mph to the speed of the shot. Pro bats are a myth, they'd hit sixes with a #2 pencil! ;)
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Even if all pros are sharpies, it doesn't necessarily mean all sharpies are pros bats (given that it is so easy to write one by anyone)
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That's just tv camera which adds a few mph to the speed of the shot. Pro bats are a myth, they'd hit sixes with a #2 pencil! ;)
Whatever speed the tv camera shows, the ball still went to the boundary despite the fielders best attempts to catch up with it..but it could also be due to the speed of the bowling at that level and the good/hard pitches..
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I was just joking. I am firm believer in the superior performance of "Pro" bats. They get the best ones, with the most responsive, ping-iest willow. No ifs-and-or-buts!
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My views personally are that maybe openly talking on a forum about putting resources together to but in bulk from abroad in front of sponsors is possibly a bit annoying from there point of view, unless I'm mistaken they pay a fee annually etc that pays for the forum we all use. So can see there point.
Secondly this whole Pro bat lark is such a mine field. I spent a few years with a large UK bat maker and they had no Pro bat cupboard or reserved willow and the pro's or 2nd team players or sponsored players just came and picked clefts, some were G3 and liked heartwood or less wider grains, some went through hundreds as they were so fussy the only thing they have in common as a pro is they had the top 10% of talent. Other companies do have Pro cupboards and reserve certain cleft or bats for sponsored players etc. If any of us had a Root, Finch, Cook what ever bat it's not going to make you a better player the same as if those players used your bat they would not all of a sudden not be world class.
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If there was a single 'best brand/maker' all the pros would use that one. There isn't. I have bats from 3 sponsors on here. They are all excellent. My talent/lack off is the only limiting factor.
What I do know is that if there is an issue iwith one of my bats it would be resolved by those makers. Like the Aussie bats, ifthere is a problem they would have to be sent back to their origin. Is it worth the risk when our talent/lack of is the main issue.
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We have a lot of under privileged aspiring cricketers in the amateur circuit here in Pakistan that hit the ball as far as we do with our supposedly almost pro bats(50+, SS gladiator, GN Legend etc). I guess it all comes down to the skill of the batsman. Some of the bats these guys use are what we would classify as absolute planks.