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Title: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: play-yourself-in on July 11, 2017, 07:21:31 PM
I'm a big fan of Newbury, never seen a bad one.  Was wondering if anyone has seen/has one of the newer lower grade ones that are Indian made and finished in England.

If/when I get a new Newbury it will have to be one of these grades ( the budget won't stretch to anything more).

Cheers team CBF.
Title: Re: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: edge on July 11, 2017, 07:52:21 PM
I'd just buy an Aldred butterfly? Same batmaker as the more expensive Newberys, made to order for you and less money. If you really want Newbery stickers then they're not exactly hard to come by - all win?
Title: Re: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: Vitas Cricket on July 11, 2017, 07:55:50 PM
In completely unrelated news we've got some lovely low end SF bats in stock...
Title: Re: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: jd163 on July 11, 2017, 08:28:10 PM
I'd just buy an Aldred butterfly? Same batmaker as the more expensive Newberys, made to order for you and less money. If you really want Newbery stickers then they're not exactly hard to come by - all win?

 ^ Agreed.
Title: Re: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: Gurujames on July 11, 2017, 08:30:53 PM
Agree too. I have 2 Aldred butterfly's now and they are excellent.
Title: Re: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: Mattsky on July 12, 2017, 08:25:48 AM
Hang on. I'm obviously late to the party, but are we saying that Paul makes bats for Newbery?
If so, does that mean Paul, Newbery and an Indian batmaker all make Newbery bats?
Or have I got the wrong end of several sticks?
Title: Re: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: Tom on July 12, 2017, 08:41:22 AM
Newbury haven't made bats themselves in about 10 years, they are a brand like Slazenger

Like so many others most of their production has been moved offshore, with a UK batmaker helping retain a bit of
Heritage
Title: Re: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: JTtaylor145 on July 12, 2017, 08:41:57 AM
Hang on. I'm obviously late to the party, but are we saying that Paul makes bats for Newbery?
If so, does that mean Paul, Newbery and an Indian batmaker all make Newbery bats?
Or have I got the wrong end of several sticks?

No you've pretty much grasped the stick firmly. I'm not sure how many Newbery bats 'Newbery' are making. The old relationship with the classic batmaker turned sour.
Title: Re: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: Boondougal on July 12, 2017, 09:19:24 AM
In completely unrelated news we've got some lovely low end SF bats in stock...

I don't think the irony of this post got the recognition it deserved!!!!
Title: Re: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: Churchy1989 on July 12, 2017, 10:12:11 AM
Have seen a few in the league, big bats, very dry, seen two with chunks break off so far this year, also been hit for some big sixes with them.
Title: Re: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on July 12, 2017, 10:18:24 AM
No you've pretty much grasped the stick firmly. I'm not sure how many Newbery bats 'Newbery' are making. The old relationship with the classic batmaker turned sour.

Yes, he died many years ago.
Title: Re: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: JTtaylor145 on July 12, 2017, 10:33:50 AM
Yes, he died many years ago.
Think you know who I meant but nice put down nonetheless  ;)
Title: Re: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: adb club cricketer on July 12, 2017, 03:25:11 PM
I think it is incorrect to assume SF bats will be same as SF made newbery bats as designs, shapes could be different in addition to the agreements on quality which could differ as well. We know, SG made kook bats, but I never felt kook and Sg bats ping the same, the pressing, sound of the ball, all looked different to me - just saying as an example. At least from the pics online, none of the newbery shapes look like SF shapes or even close.
Title: Re: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: Vitas Cricket on July 12, 2017, 05:17:57 PM
I think it is incorrect to assume SF bats will be same as SF made newbery bats as designs, shapes could be different in addition to the agreements on quality which could differ as well. We know, SG made kook bats, but I never felt kook and Sg bats ping the same, the pressing, sound of the ball, all looked different to me - just saying as an example. At least from the pics online, none of the newbery shapes look like SF shapes or even close.

I assume the same will be said to the people suggesting buying an Aldred? This is a man who went on at length about soft pressing and pro pressing being nonsense (which i broadly agree with) but now quite happily produces bats for Newbery with soft, medium or hard pressing, and not only that but each press comes with varying warranty types.....
Title: Re: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: InternalTraining on July 12, 2017, 05:26:41 PM
I assume the same will be said to the people suggesting buying an Aldred? This is a man who went on at length about soft pressing and pro pressing being nonsense (which i broadly agree with) but now quite happily produces bats for Newbery with soft, medium or hard pressing, and not only that but each press comes with varying warranty types.....

That is interesting!

Paul is a great bat maker and he should address these conflicting statements around pressing.

I wonder if he meant that there is a hard pressing (performance free) to protect bat makers against warranty claims and then there is a not-so-hard (hence soft pressing) to give a cleft (and later a finished bat) optimum ping while taking a risk, as a bat maker, on a warranty claim (meaning early breakage).
Title: Re: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: Churchy1989 on July 12, 2017, 05:27:12 PM
I assume the same will be said to the people suggesting buying an Aldred? This is a man who went on at length about soft pressing and pro pressing being nonsense (which i broadly agree with) but now quite happily produces bats for Newbery with soft, medium or hard pressing, and not only that but each press comes with varying warranty types.....

Take it your not too keen then @Vitas Cricket? Sell any Newbery bats at Vitas?
Title: Re: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: adb club cricketer on July 12, 2017, 05:31:56 PM
I assume the same will be said to the people suggesting buying an Aldred? This is a man who went on at length about soft pressing and pro pressing being nonsense (which i broadly agree with) but now quite happily produces bats for Newbery with soft, medium or hard pressing, and not only that but each press comes with varying warranty types.....

Yes, was just giving an example, same applies to Aldred or any other manufacturers producing bats for different clients. However, i only meant they don't necessarily have to be the same by default, which means  they could be similar or different (depending on agreements/designs etc).
Title: Re: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: Vitas Cricket on July 12, 2017, 05:38:49 PM
Yes, was just giving an example, same applies to Aldred or any other manufacturers producing bats for different clients. However, i only meant they don't necessarily have to be the same by default, which means  they could be similar or different (depending on agreements/designs etc).

Yes i agree with you, i didn't mean for the tone of my post to come across in the way it may have done. Same goes for the suggestions i've seen about new balance and slazenger being the same bats from the same place. A brand can request various things that can and will differentiate their product from another brand, even if the same manufacturer is producing them both.

@Churchy1989 Have never stocked them, can't argue that when they were offering TK made bats they would have been some of the best on the market, but they are the rudest company we've ever dealt with. That is our initial impression of them when we first opened and in subsequent dealings since. Virtually begging for us to stock them and then not turning up to a meeting they insisted on having even though i said we had made all our buying decisions for that season was not a great way to get back into our good books.
Title: Re: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: Dazz on July 12, 2017, 05:52:08 PM
Good to see that their magnificent customer service spreads right across the full spectrum of clients and not just the poor old customers 😂😉
Title: Re: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: play-yourself-in on July 12, 2017, 06:30:04 PM
I bought my Newbury GT 5* from @Vitas Cricket in 2013!!!!!!!


To be fair though Robin did tell me that they picked it up from a bankrupt shop close by....amazing bat!!!

Very interesting points so far....maybe I'll look at some other option for my next bat.

Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: Anyone tried the new Indian made bats?
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on July 12, 2017, 07:42:49 PM
I've lost track of who Newbery's then batmaker (allegedly) makes for now, but he's launching his own brand soon?