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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: six and out on September 29, 2017, 08:03:42 AM
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We have discussed the Stokes issue.. is it right/wrong/should he go/shouldn't he go etc... etc.... but this isn't a thread about that
Its a simple cricket question as the topic states.... what would you do IF Stokes isn't around for the 1st test....
Would you bring someone in? or go with what we have got?
I have...
Cook
Stoneman
Root
Malan
Bairstow
Mo
Foakes
Woakes
Plunkett
Broad
Anderson
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Same team for me just a slightly different order.
Cook
Stoneman
Root
Bairstow
Malan
Foakes
Moeen
Woakes
Plunkett
Broad
Anderson
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Are you guys selecting Foakes as a batsman or as a keeper batsman?
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Cook
Stoneman
Ballance
Root
Malan
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Anderson
Ball
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Keeper Batsman for me.
Bairstow at 4 puts too much pressure on doing both.
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Are you guys selecting Foakes as a batsman or as a keeper batsman?
Keeper Batsman definately
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I'd go with the following personally - Overton is the closest we have to replacing Stokes and would fill a roughly similar role in the side
Cook
Stoneman
Malan/Vince (either, both are going to get skittled anyway)
Root
Bairstow
Foakes
Woakes/Ali
Woakes/Ali
Overton
Broad
Anderson
As a Worcestershire fan I'd happily see Ali bat higher, but he's done so well at 7/8 that it seems stupid to change it. Would at least give us 4 seamers and Ali with support from Root if necessary. Give Foakes the gloves and let Bairstow concentrate on hitting bombs!
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Because he does so well there Moeen is one player I wouldn't move.
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Cook
Stoneman
Vince - only because he's more of a 3 than Malan
Root
Bairstow
Ali
Foakes
Woakes
Overton
Broad
Anderson
Ali can fill the gap at 6, and you still have five bowlers. Bairstow jumping up two places is an ask, but it does make the top five look stronger. Malan sits out because i don't see him batting at three. If he's upset i give him Stokes' phone number...
I like the look of Overton, if you've picked him, then play him. He's got enough experience around him to carry him through.
Foakes i wouldn't have any hesitation putting in. Better keeper than bairstow and averaging mid-40s this season, give him a go...
Still not ideal. Players moving around that much, proves what a miss Stokes will be. If we're looking to keep players where they are as much as possible its difficult as we now rely on five bowlers. I think Bairstow and/or Moeen have to move up
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Is Foakes actually all that with the bat? I haven't seen much of him, so I cannot really comment - the times that I have seen him on the TV, he just seems to hit the ball to cow.
Don't get me wrong, he looks like a good keeper - but is he up to it in the test arena? Why not play a specialist batsman/bowler ahead of him and let Bairstow keep the gloves.
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Is Foakes actually all that with the bat? I haven't seen much of him, so I cannot really comment - the times that I have seen him on the TV, he just seems to hit the ball to cow.
Don't get me wrong, he looks like a good keeper - but is he up to it in the test arena? Why not play a specialist batsman/bowler ahead of him and let Bairstow keep the gloves.
He's more than up for the test arena with gloves, absolute cut above Bairstow. Batting he's going to be a very good 7/8.
We need Bairstows runs, and higher up the order so let him focus on that. Foakes should also be able to take chances Bairstow probably wouldn't. Taking those hard/half chances could make all the difference
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Cook
Stoneman
Vince
Root
Ballance
Bairstow
Samit P
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Anderson
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straight swap plunkett for stokes
weakens batting but need 5 proper bowler in Aus.
plenty of batting for me with woakes at 8
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what would you do IF Stokes isn't around for the 1st test....
Not even bother to watch
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Cook
Stoneman
Vince
Root
Malan
Foakes
Bairstow
Ali
Overton
Broad
Anderson
Just going on what we know at the minute squad wise, personally I'd call up plunkett he's bowling well in one days and I think has the pace to worry the aussies on quick tracks so he'd come in for Overton
I'm reluctant to move bairstow and Ali so foakes fits in at 6 however I don't object to bairstow playing as a batter only as he's also good enough to replace stokes' fielding ability
EDIT: this is more relevant than i think people think as he is only 1 demerit point from a ban! if he does tour is he likely to manage ot get through an away ashes tour without getting de-merit points! were likely to miss him for at least one game!
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A 4th seamer comes in for me. Going off the squad I'd assume that would be Ball, hes always seemed next in line in the bowling ranks.
Personally I'd prefer Plunkett, but I think he's the nearly man.
Hows Finn been this summer? He ripped through Lancs the other week. His extra height could cause problems in Aus.
Got to be a bowler for me though. "Batters save a match, but bowlers win you one" was drilled into our squad by a coach for 2 years.
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Can't see Plunkett going straight in. There are a couple of seamers in the squad ahead of him. I haven't seen Overton,but have heard good things,and don't rate Ball!
I'll start with a simple formula:
Cook +Stoneman+Vince= 30/2
My side:
Cook
Stoneman
Vince
Root
Ballance
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Overton
Broad
Anderson
Test match cricket is in danger, and desperately needs players like Stokes. But I can't comment further as this thread isn't about Stokes!
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I'm worried about the clamour for Ben Foakes. I like him, but have seen this on here before. It usually sees the subject of attention becoming a hate figure within a very short space of time.
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I'm worried about the clamour for Ben Foakes. I like him, but have seen this on here before. It usually sees the subject of attention becoming a hate figure within a very short space of time.
Averaging over 40 for such a long time speaks for itself. If he doesnt suit he doesnt suit. The rest of the hatred had a couple of decent seasons thats it.
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Bairstow will be reluctant to give up the gloves imo. Harder to stay in the team as a specialist batsman, being the keeper gives him a bit of extra leeway and relieves a lot of the pressure when the inevitable dip in form comes.
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Plukett should come in next best after Stokes at what they do ( bowl seam and bat).
Suspect the selectors onlly see him now as an ODi man.
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Cook
Stoneman
Ballance
Root
Malan
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Anderson
Ball
Err, actually. Maybe not going to have Ball in. Replace with Overton I think after today.
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If you knew there was no Stokes surely you would pick a different squad?
He is that much of an influence & creator of balance to the Match day XI
ECB have some serious thinking to do
Crane selection suddeny becomes a self indulgent folly
And lack of reliable batsman becomes chronic issue
23-3 becomes even scarier proposition
I wasn’t massively impressed with Ball/Ballance/Vince/Crane that’s just become even worse.
Cook
Stoneman
Bairstow
Root
Ballance
Ali
Foakes
Woakes
Overton
Broad
Anderson
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The team I would take (Yes I know Hales is suspended, but this is without Stokes)
Cook
Hales
Vince
Root
Malan
Bairstow
Ali
Woakes
Plunkett
Broad
Anderson
For me Mason Crane is a great prospect but doesn't have the experience yet.
Rashid would come in maybe at the expense of Woakes or Plunkett. Plunkett is the quicker bowler but I rate Woakes' batting more.
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Averaging over 40 for such a long time speaks for itself. If he doesnt suit he doesnt suit. The rest of the hatred had a couple of decent seasons thats it.
Two years ago he wasn't in Surrey's regular starting XI. He's only played two full seasons for anyone. Surrey got him because he was surplus to requirements ar Essex.
This season I've seen quite a lot of him and have at times been thinking he's not the wonder keeper I thought he might be. Certainly nowhere near as good as Read or Foster in their prime.
But, like I say, I do like him...